Got kicked out of a cell phone shop for being a mystery shopper

I was in the middle of a mystery shop asking the employee questions. The manager noticed I was a mystery shopper, and I was told to leave. The manager said they do not allow mystery shoppers in their store. I tried to explain the reason for the mystery shops. The company wants to know how the store is doing. The manager said she didn't care and if the company wants to send out mystery shoppers, they have to tell her first. I put this in my report. It will be interesting to see if the company reacts to mystery shoppers refusing to do this store. She keeps kicking them out. This manager has a real attitude problem with mystery shoppers.

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Again? Do you wear a "Mystery Shopper Here!" custom t-shirt?
Competitors often conduct mystery shops to gain intelligence.

What were you doing to allow the manager to know you were a mystery shopper?

Even if you were doing a Verizon store (for instance) on behalf of Verizon, you are generally forbidden to announce that you are a mystery shopper.

Shopping South Jersey, Southeast Pennsylvania, and Delaware above the canal since 2008
@sestrahelena wrote:

Again? Do you wear a "Mystery Shopper Here!" custom t-shirt?

you completely missed the point. The point is the manager kicks out any mystery shopper. This was a mystery shop with 44 questions. The store employees know who the shoppers are, by the questions you ask. The ONLY time this shop can be done is if the manager is not there. I did report that the manager said she will not allow mystery shoppers in her store. I believe this will not go well for the manager.
@myst4au wrote:

Competitors often conduct mystery shops to gain intelligence.

What were you doing to allow the manager to know you were a mystery shopper?

Even if you were doing a Verizon store (for instance) on behalf of Verizon, you are generally forbidden to announce that you are a mystery shopper.

I did not tell.them I was a mystery shopper. The store employee told the manager. They know you're the mystery shopper by the questions you ask.

The same form is used by one MSC for many cell phone shops. It wasn't about any competitor.
Interesting you and others did not comment on the store manager not allowing ANY mystery shoppers in the store.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2026 11:44PM by johnb974.
I've done hundreds of cell phone mystery shops and have never had anyone accuse me of being a shopper. Since this has happened to you several times, maybe consider switching up the questions. Just make it conversational. Come up with a different scenario. The store manager has her prerogative and if she says no shoppers, thats her call. I'd focus more on why you keep getting identified - that is something you can control. The manager's behavior, you can not control. And don't go to this store anymore!
@Cassiespark wrote:

I've done hundreds of cell phone mystery shops and have never had anyone accuse me of being a shopper. Since this has happened to you several times, maybe consider switching up the questions. Just make it conversational. Come up with a different scenario. The store manager has her prerogative and if she says no shoppers, thats her call. I'd focus more on why you keep getting identified - that is something you can control. The manager's behavior, you can not control. And don't go to this store anymore!

I have talked to store managers and even people in fast food shops. They have told me they know who the mystery shoppers are. Don't kid yourself. They know who you are by the questions you ask. Others on here have said the same thing.

The reason for the shops is the companies want to know the marketing skills of the employees. The store manager should not interfere with the shop being done. They are not the ones being tested. Kicking out the mystery shopper reflects badly on the manager.
@johnb974, you should NEVER talk with anyone about it at the places you say you have been outed or anywhere for that matter. The protocol is to deny, period. Why go into the explanation as to why a mystery shop is performed? Not your place to go there with that information. DENY. And invest in a poker face.

You could have learned how to rephrase those questions where you were still saying the same thing, as @Cassiespark advised.

I believe you have just caused yourself a problem, again, with the MSC. And that will be your next topic to post on the forum.
@purpleicee wrote:

@johnb974, you should NEVER talk with anyone about it at the places you say you have been outed or anywhere for that matter. The protocol is to deny, period. Why go into the explanation as to why a mystery shop is performed? Not your place to go there with that information. DENY. And invest in a poker face.

You could have learned how to rephrase those questions where you were still saying the same thing, as @Cassiespark advised.

I believe you have just caused yourself a problem, again, with the MSC. And that will be your next topic to post on the forum.

It was the store employee who told the manager I was the mystery shopper. After that I was asked to leave. The store manager suspected I was the mystery shopper by the questions I was asking. There are 44 questions in the shop. Most are questions shoppers never ask. The shop itself reveals you as a shopper.

The point is that this report will let the MSC know that this manager will not allow ANY mystery shopper in the store. She made it clear she as the manager she does not want her store reviewed. She is only the manager; she does not own the store.
I found this online: While a local store manager can theoretically ask a disruptive person to leave, they cannot unilaterally "reject" a corporate-contracted mystery shopper during a visit. If a manager interferes with or bans a legitimate mystery shopper, it breaches the contract their company has with the auditing firm. Because mystery shopping is an unannounced, third-party audit designed to measure the genuine customer experience, managers and staff are usually required to treat everyone as a potential secret shopper.

I should print this. In 15 years, I've done mystery shopping, only 3 times has a manager told me to leave because I was a mystery shopper. The manager is in breach of the company contract.
That reads like some AI-generated answer. It's not a law, and you have no idea what the phone company's internal policies are, nor should they be of any concern to you. There's some excellent advice here on how to conduct these shops in a manner that seems natural. Does this shop actually entail asking an employee 44 different questions, or are there 44 questions on the survey regarding things that the sales person could potentially mention when demonstrating a phone or discussing service options with a potential customer?
@NinS wrote:

That reads like some AI-generated answer. It's not a law, and you have no idea what the phone company's internal policies are, nor should they be of any concern to you. There's some excellent advice here on how to conduct these shops in a manner that seems natural. Does this shop actually entail asking an employee 44 different questions, or are there 44 questions on the survey regarding things that the sales person could potentially mention when demonstrating a phone or discussing service options with a potential customer?

It is not AI generated. Who said anything about the phone company? If an employee or manager realizes a customer is a mystery shopper, they should continue to provide standard, excellent service. Mystery shopping firms instruct their evaluators never to reveal their identity during an active shop. If they are "outed" by staff, the agency generally voids the evaluation.........I have been told I will get paid anyway.
@NinS wrote:

That reads like some AI-generated answer. It's not a law, and you have no idea what the phone company's internal policies are, nor should they be of any concern to you. There's some excellent advice here on how to conduct these shops in a manner that seems natural. Does this shop actually entail asking an employee 44 different questions, or are there 44 questions on the survey regarding things that the sales person could potentially mention when demonstrating a phone or discussing service options with a potential customer?

It is not AI generated. Who said anything about the phone company? If an employee or manager realizes a customer is a mystery shopper, they should continue to provide standard, excellent service. Mystery shopping firms instruct their evaluators never to reveal their identity during an active shop. If they are "outed" by staff, the agency generally voids the evaluation.........I have been told I will get paid anyway. As I have said before, I've had store managers and store employees tell me they know who the mystery shoppers are by the questions they ask.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/2026 03:16AM by johnb974.
Mystery shopping programs are designed by corporate headquarters to evaluate uncoached, day-to-day customer service. When a manager interferes, they taint the data, which can result in disciplinary action for the manager from their own regional or corporate bosses if they are caught sabotaging the company's own quality assurance program.
First, do we even know if the mystery shop was authorized by that company, and was not on behalf of a phone brand or other entity? I have done a lot of cell phone shops that clearly are designed to gather marketing data and are not for training purposes, although some of the questions do seem to evaluate employee performance.
The employee performance in relation to the phone brands, I think. Their enthusiam, knowledge and representation of specific brands.
@sestrahelena wrote:

The employee performance in relation to the phone brands, I think. Their enthusiam, knowledge and representation of specific brands.

Clearly some store managers will not allow their employees to be tested
44 questions about a freaking phone?

As if I need to be reminded that I never do cellphone shops anymore...

Have synthesizers, will travel...
I mean, I don't sit there and read the questions to them. I pose as a person interested in upgrading their phone. Gotta work on your acting skills.
Actually, the cell phone shops are generally not to evaluate the marketing skills of the employees. They are usually determining which phones are being recommended, and why. Marketing skills of cell phone store employees are low - they are hourly workers and not paid to be marketers. They are paid to get people to sign up for plans, and are generally not comp'd on the phone hardware itself.

Either way, maybe fewer conversations about "who the shoppers are" as you keep getting outed. Sure, they might know who we are, but you seem to be magnifying the situation with all your conversations. You have complained about the big I removing you for this very thing. Try just staying in character and moving along successfully - if you want to continue doing these.

@johnb974 wrote:

@Cassiespark wrote:

I've done hundreds of cell phone mystery shops and have never had anyone accuse me of being a shopper. Since this has happened to you several times, maybe consider switching up the questions. Just make it conversational. Come up with a different scenario. The store manager has her prerogative and if she says no shoppers, thats her call. I'd focus more on why you keep getting identified - that is something you can control. The manager's behavior, you can not control. And don't go to this store anymore!

I have talked to store managers and even people in fast food shops. They have told me they know who the mystery shoppers are. Don't kid yourself. They know who you are by the questions you ask. Others on here have said the same thing.

The reason for the shops is the companies want to know the marketing skills of the employees. The store manager should not interfere with the shop being done. They are not the ones being tested. Kicking out the mystery shopper reflects badly on the manager.
You are assuming the shop you were doing was contracted by the store. It most likely was not. The 2 big cell phone projects are contracted by a Japanese electronics manufacturer and the world's biggest search engine company. Thats why the questions are hardware specific. Verizon, AT&T, etc aren't contracting these projects - and they own the stores you are visiting. So, no, the manager isn't violating a contract. She probably just doesn't want her employees wasting time with someone who will not buy anything from them.

And you don't need to ask all 44 questions verbatim. Have a conversation, the information will come out naturally.
@Cassiespark wrote:

You are assuming the shop you were doing was contracted by the store. It most likely was not. The 2 big cell phone projects are contracted by a Japanese electronics manufacturer and the world's biggest search engine company. Thats why the questions are hardware specific. Verizon, AT&T, etc aren't contracting these projects - and they own the stores you are visiting. So, no, the manager isn't violating a contract. She probably just doesn't want her employees wasting time with someone who will not buy anything from them.

And you don't need to ask all 44 questions verbatim. Have a conversation, the information will come out naturally.

"The 2 big cell phone projects are contracted by a Japanese electronics manufacturer and the world's biggest search engine company."......where did you get this information? Show your source.

The truth is "Major wireless carriers and authorized retailers (such as AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and various third-party dealers) hire mystery shopping agencies to assess several key areas:"
The point of all of this is the store manager should not interfere with the mystery shopper. They prevent the cell phone company from gathering information on how sales are done.
You admitted to being a mystery shopper. That is never permitted unless it is explicitly permitted by the MSC.

Shopping South Jersey, Southeast Pennsylvania, and Delaware above the canal since 2008
If it is not AI-generated what is the source? Are you aware that if you Google a question the first result will be an AI-generated answer whose accuracy can vary greatly?
@johnb974 - All this back and forth with "your" reasoning on what you said and did. Instead of trying to be right on what you you did and continue to do, acknowledge that you need to change your method and learn from others who do not have these problems. Or stop complaining. You do not ask 44 questions, as others have noted. You mark yourself as a mystery shopper by the way you think this shop has to be done. And you further mark yourself because you believe the questions give you away, so you tell on yourself by your demeanor. It does not matter if the employee told on you. You did not deny, you confirmed.

Then you wasted your time researching information online about this whole thing. Why? So you can spew that information out to the manager and/or employee of the next shop that pegs you as a shopper?

It is like someone pulls your string and you just repeat. Learn the shop skills.
@johnb974 wrote:

I was in the middle of a mystery shop asking the employee questions. The manager noticed I was a mystery shopper, and I was told to leave. The manager said they do not allow mystery shoppers in their store. I tried to explain the reason for the mystery shops. The company wants to know how the store is doing. The manager said she didn't care and if the company wants to send out mystery shoppers, they have to tell her first. I put this in my report. It will be interesting to see if the company reacts to mystery shoppers refusing to do this store. She keeps kicking them out. This manager has a real attitude problem with mystery shoppers.

You are not supposed to disclose that you are a shopper. Deny deny deny. You admitted it and you put it in your report. Wouldn't be surprised if you got banned from these jobs or even the MSC as a whole.
@johnb974 wrote:

The point of all of this is the store manager should not interfere with the mystery shopper. They prevent the cell phone company from gathering information on how sales are done.

This is only true if the results go back to the store or the wireless carrier. But if the results are being done by another company and are not authorized by the store or carrier, she is justified in interfering with the mystery shopper. There is no "right to mystery shop" unless the establishment has given explicit permission.
@mystery2me wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

The point of all of this is the store manager should not interfere with the mystery shopper. They prevent the cell phone company from gathering information on how sales are done.

This is only true if the results go back to the store or the wireless carrier. But if the results are being done by another company and are not authorized by the store or carrier, she is justified in interfering with the mystery shopper. There is no "right to mystery shop" unless the establishment has given explicit permission.

The results do go back to the cell phone compsny. Who do you think requires you to ask about what phones they recommend
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