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Very erudite and interesting concepts. Let me ask you something. What percentage of white families have a father at home? Same question for black families and Oriental families. My guess is Asian is 1st, white 2nd and black a distant 3rd. If that is the case do you have an answer? And is this white privilege or Oriental privilege or Black indifference?

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It's pretty obvious you still miss my point.
What percentage of families have a father at home has nothing to do with the term white privilege.
What white privilege is, is simply a term that explains the advantages that white people generally have in society over non-whites. Your question has nothing to do with privilege.

But, to answer your question, I would guess, without googling, that you would possibly be correct. However, I would also guess, that those numbers are skewed by income class. I would suggest, again without googling, that within income class there wouldn't be a statistical difference along racial lines.

Also, not to be insulting, but the proper term for a person is Asian. Oriental refers to a design style, usually when talking about rugs.

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Thanks for the correction. Oriental is now an un-PC word when used to describe a person. I shall use Asian in the future.

Now if you have a theory for the reason for the high incidence of fatherless black families and offer a suggestion on how to solve the problem we probably will not need a discussion on white privilege or out of proportion black arrests. It is a problem that the families involved, and certainly not our politicians, have been able to solve.

And if you have a solution you have my vote for whatever political office you run for. I occasionally cross over to the other side.

I don't think Oriental has ever been considered the correct term for a person.

I think you missed my post. I believe it's a function of poverty not a function of race. Less than 25% of children in the US grow up in homes without their father, but a huge majority of those are in homes that receive aid. A fairly large portion of those fathers are incarcerated. Considering it's much harder for a black family to work their way out of poverty than it is a white family and considering black men are arrested at higher rates and incarcerated for longer periods of time than white men who commit the same crimes, then it only makes sense that it's a larger problem in the black community. Also you have to consider that the lower the income the more likely people commit crimes. So yeah. Fix the poverty and you've fixed some of the other problems. But again, I think it's a poverty issue and not a race issue, it just affects some races more than others because those races are more susceptible to poverty. Now, how do we fix poverty? I dunno. I have some ideas, but I they're just ideas.

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@LIJake wrote:

And if you have a solution you have my vote for whatever political office you run for. I occasionally cross over to the other side.

I am a moderate liberal in a state Trump won by 20 points and I have wayyyyyyy to many skeletons in my closet to survive that opposition research.

But yeah, political office could be interesting.

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Sorry, no solution, no vote.

I didn't think there were any moderate Liberals left.

There are 3 or 4 of us around.

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Now if only you can find a solution, you have 5 votes.

There are a few broken records here...

Let's go back to the original sentiment - respect for our fallen.

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@bgriffin wrote:

I think you missed my post. I believe it's a function of poverty not a function of race.

Why are people in poverty? According to this study, in the US it's due primarily to single motherhood. [www.slate.com] So the solution has to start there. How do you make men quit abandoning their offspring and their children's mothers?

Are nasty or inept women making it difficult for some men to participate in parenting and householding processes?

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu

My brother, a Republican who did three tours in Vietnam and is 100 percent disabled (determined by the VA and Army) due to exposure to toxic chemicals there, says that he is proud to have fought for a country where all are free to exercise peaceful protest. And, yes, we were talking about the NFL issues. At a recent conference an Iraq war veteran (2 deployments) told several of us the same thing. Let's not lump all veterans together.

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@Shop-et-al wrote:

Are nasty or inept women making it difficult for some men to participate in parenting and householding processes?

That could be one possibility. Here's another wild hare thought. Could nasty and inept men with no sense of responsibility be fathering children outside of traditional relationships with no intention of taking responsibility for the children and not attempting to parent or financially support those children?

edited because spell checker made a change I didn't like so I changed it back.

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Two sides to a story since we have gotten way off track (I didn't start it). Woman today seem carefree, condoms are available, free to all, yes men have the same responsibility. Maybe men growing up without Fathers don't know responsibility, and young woman coming from drug related homes are looking to get away...the fact remains education is the key and youth, well, temptation and youth. Perhaps schools can better educate our kids if parents won't. I could be very personal and tell you how I made my daughter "think" and be responsible, but she wouldn't like it. Take your daughters to a woman Dr., and let her explain and give her the pill (if she has a boyfriend). I blame most on drugs, troubled families and knowing they can get on welfare, many poor kids from caring hands on families go to college and make something of themselves, Ignorance is NOT bliss.

The military is a seperate subject and I pay my respects and honor all that fought for our country, I don't care who kneels or not, it's about a bigger issue.
p.s. I'm a moderate liberal from CA with an open mind.

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@iShop123 wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

I think you missed my post. I believe it's a function of poverty not a function of race.
Why are people in poverty? According to this study, in the US it's due primarily to single motherhood. [www.slate.com] So the solution has to start there. How do you make men quit abandoning their offspring and their children's mothers?

Perhaps you posted the wrong article?
This article makes no such claim that people are in poverty due to single motherhood. What it does say is that among people who grow up in poverty, the ones who grow up in single parent homes are less upwardly mobile than those who grow up in two parent homes. Which makes perfectly good sense.

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@bgriffin wrote:

What it does say is that among people who grow up in poverty, the ones who grow up in single parent homes are less upwardly mobile than those who grow up in two parent homes. Which makes perfectly good sense.

It links to the Harvard study.

The link to the Harvard study is a bad link, however, from the article, the Harvard study is about upward mobility of people in poverty. One of the findings is that children who grow up in single parent homes are less upwardly mobile than those who do not. That's the only thing about single parent households I see in the article. Plus the study doesn't delve into why people are in poverty to begin with at all. Perhaps I read it wrong or perhaps you did. Could you copy and paste the part you think says that? Because I'm not seeing it.

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[www.washingtonpost.com]

According to this article, roughly 1/3 of the people living in poverty in the US are single parents or the children of single parents. That means 2/3 are not. That can hardly be hailed as "the primary reason people are in poverty."

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Far too much of the USA goes overseas. Jobs, filthy rich people who made their money on the backs of American's like Oprah and Gates provide to other countries, our young and old men and women, may God rest their souls. Stand for the anthem and give your money and time, together, to fight the wars of racism and poverty.

Some people are satisfied with less of whatever money can buy. These people may experience monetary lack or funds reduction as adventure, challenge. or at least as something not so bad. They might have rich souls. Some may be minimalists or utilize philosophical or religious concepts regarding the role of money and other riches in life. Perhaps they are immune to sales and marketing techniques which are designed to churn our desires and influence our spending behaviors. Upward mobility implies, among other things, the opportunity and financial ability to have the "best of everything", much of which will cost us more and more money forever due to obsolescence.

But what about the so-called wage gap, in which females reportedly earn less than their male counterparts for same/similar work? How many of the mentioned households are experiencing disparate earnings?

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu

Thanks to the families of the men and women who have faithfully served in the armed forces, especially to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice.

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Let's also thank the founding fathers for the Constitution and for creating the framework for a free society where we all can speak our mind without being sent to the slogs.

And... this includes the DavePi siggy! Woo!!!!!

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu

@DavePi wrote:

Let's also thank the founding fathers for the Constitution and for creating the framework for a free society where we all can speak our mind without being sent to the slogs.

Unless you're on a New York subway shouting down loud-talking women with racial slurs. That guy is actually being charged with a "hate crime" for things he SAID rather than did.

It's one thing to say your a f$&%&^ a*&% and another thing to say I"m going to kick you f$^%# A*%&

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