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Unfortunately no employees are interviewed. Since police officers have proven themselves to be dishonest in matters ranging from their murdering of civilians to their Shake Shack milkshakes one has no idea what really happened.

Let's not lump all police officers in one basket. My wife is a Sgt with LAPD and is one of the MOST honest cops I've ever met. She has 32yrs on the job and not one complaint.

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Unfortunately no employees are interviewed. Since police officers have proven themselves to be dishonest in matters ranging from their murdering of civilians to their Shake Shack milkshakes one has no idea what really happened.

The fact that Five Guys terminated their employment lends to the fact that the employees did refuse service much like in the other incident.

The Shake Shack incident is a little more complex. The officers never accused the workers of anything (in fact it was the police who investigated and found no wrong doing) it was the union bosses and upper leadership (and the media) who blew the incident up, not the officers.

Additionally, the fact that they cleaned the machine (not thoroughly apparently) and then served the milkshake shows a lack of training on the employees part.

Oh well, just goes to show the importance not only of the mystery shops, but the follow up as well.

Calicakes, it wasn't my intention to imply that all police officers lie about every matter all day long. I certainly don't think they do, and I feel bad for the officers who are trying their best. I've known cops who were honest and/or were attempting to diversify their force and they did not have an easy time with either their colleagues or the community. It's a real bind: Certainly police misconduct needs to be stopped, yet if there is so much police shaming that no one who is honest or not racist wants to be a cop, we're going to be left with an even more racist and dishonest police force than what we have now.

Capurato, you gave an excellent summary of the Shake Shack incident. But aren't those union bosses and management part of the police force as well? As for Five Guys, the fact that they terminated some poorly paid employees at will means nothing. Perhaps they just wanted to get rid of a PR headache. Perhaps the incident happened exactly the way the officers described. My point was that without the employees' side of the story (which in all fariness the newspaper might not have had any way of getting) we have no idea what happened. We've seen MSCs -- including, famously, the one that Five Guys uses -- terminate IC shoppers for reasons that had nothing to do with whether those shoppers were doing anything wrong or not.

Valid points by all posters on this topic.

My biggest issue is the “Us versus Them” mentality on both sides. Once we can start working together for sustainable change, things will start evolving in a manner which I feel would be more productive.

Right now things are changing due to the massive friction which is causing a divide amongst the community.

This is a site that wants me to take off my adblocker. Screw em not that interested in the story.

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