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That's it. Form your own opinion based on your individual experiences. I remember reading that one shopper drove an amazing distance to make $40. I will only drive around town to make that amount. Maybe 20 miles. If I drive $100 miles or more, you better believe I am making $200 dollars or more. I generally will drive about $20 miles and make $90 to $100 by mapping my shops and planning. I accept a certain number of shops daily and plan those shops strategically. Then I make sure I can enter the information in time. I learned that the first week performing shops.
i DON'T HATE SOME OF THESE COMPANIES, BUT i DON'T LIKE TO BE SCAMMED. aS FOR NAMES, i WILL SAY THAT A COMPANY IN CALIFORNIA, "MARKET WATCH" IS THE PITS. IF ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD HAS HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THEM PLEASE DETAIL YOUR COMMENTS.
THANKS EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY.
THANKS EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY.
Since you are bringing up the complaint, why don't you also detail your specific problem with them rather than a blanket stated accusing them of scamming you. If that is what they are, fine. If not, it is not good practice to call any legitimate company a scammer. Also, could you please stop yelling at everyone. Thanks.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
ripper Wrote:
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> i DON'T HATE SOME OF THESE COMPANIES, BUT i DON'T
> LIKE TO BE SCAMMED. aS FOR NAMES, i WILL SAY THAT
> A COMPANY IN CALIFORNIA, "MARKET WATCH" IS THE
> PITS. IF ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD HAS HAD ANY
> EXPERIENCE WITH THEM PLEASE DETAIL YOUR COMMENTS.
>
>
> THANKS EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY.
You have posted 11 times on the forum and every one has been negative. Have you had any successful shops? We would love to hear about companies you like. Also, many of us would appreciate if you would not post in all capital letters. Most MSPs also object to the use of all caps when you file reports. The use of all caps is viewed by many as "yelling."
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> i DON'T HATE SOME OF THESE COMPANIES, BUT i DON'T
> LIKE TO BE SCAMMED. aS FOR NAMES, i WILL SAY THAT
> A COMPANY IN CALIFORNIA, "MARKET WATCH" IS THE
> PITS. IF ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD HAS HAD ANY
> EXPERIENCE WITH THEM PLEASE DETAIL YOUR COMMENTS.
>
>
> THANKS EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY.
You have posted 11 times on the forum and every one has been negative. Have you had any successful shops? We would love to hear about companies you like. Also, many of us would appreciate if you would not post in all capital letters. Most MSPs also object to the use of all caps when you file reports. The use of all caps is viewed by many as "yelling."
I use to tell this to my employees when in the corporate world. I hate seeing correspondence in all caps. It is definitely considered yelling. All clients/MS companies indicate in their guidleines to not write your reports in all caps or they will not be accepted. I also think it is a good idea to edit your comments on the forum. This is just a suggestion, I am definitely not trying to tell anyone what to do!
I did one assignment where it was required to submit the report in all CAPS. I'm not sure which MSP requires all caps, but it took a lot more time to submit.
My review was that I needed to check all my capitalization.
My review was that I needed to check all my capitalization.
Ah yes, there always has to be one exception to every rule
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
LisaSTL Wrote:
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> Ah yes, there always has to be one exception to
> every rule
LisaSTL:
I'm surprised that no one else commented about this MSC. I originally submitted my shop with "normal" grammar and capitalization. The next day I received a notice that my report had been rejected and make corrections within 24 hours and to read the instructions. Lo and behold, it stated that the report be submitted in ALL CAPS. I completed the shop earlier this year, but I cannot think of the MSC's name. Could the MSC be Mintel?
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> Ah yes, there always has to be one exception to
> every rule
LisaSTL:
I'm surprised that no one else commented about this MSC. I originally submitted my shop with "normal" grammar and capitalization. The next day I received a notice that my report had been rejected and make corrections within 24 hours and to read the instructions. Lo and behold, it stated that the report be submitted in ALL CAPS. I completed the shop earlier this year, but I cannot think of the MSC's name. Could the MSC be Mintel?
I'm pretty sure it is NOT Mintel. They are too sane . . . I have never seen an all caps shop but I have heard of them and I remember one form from somewhere turned everything into all caps when I submitted it. It was sorta weird because I typed it with normal lower and upper case.
I know it isn't Mintel as I just completed one for them. I did have the one where it kept changing it to uppercase. I tried to correct it a few times, but that was the way things were set.
The use of all caps is also used as an accommodation for some with limited vision. For them, it isn't yelling, but a way to help them to read the information on the screen easier.
The use of all caps is also used as an accommodation for some with limited vision. For them, it isn't yelling, but a way to help them to read the information on the screen easier.
Yes there is one. If I remember correctly it is Ritter and Associates! I remember entering the report in both cases and it changes the report to all caps. Haven't performed a shop for them since early summer. But when I would correct my entry on spell check, the report would be changed to caps before final submission.
i remember now also that ritter and associates required all caps on my reports. i still feel like i 'yelled' all my reports, lolol.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2011 08:07PM by vince.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2011 08:07PM by vince.
I too felt all caps appears as if you are yelling. When in corporate world, I would always remind my employees to respond in both cases when sending emails or instant messages. I absolutely boiled when receiving a message typed in all caps. If after sending the employee two warnings and still no improvement, I would indicate this as a communication problem on their yearly evaluation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2011 08:40PM by destiny1234.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2011 08:40PM by destiny1234.
destiny1234 Wrote:
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> I too felt all caps appears as if you are yelling.
> When in corporate world, I would always remind my
> employees to respond in both cases when sending
> emails are instant messages. I absolutely boiled
> when receiving a message typed in all caps. If
> after sending the employee two warnings and still
> no improvement, I would indicate this as a
> communication problem on their yearly evaluation.
what gets me is when somebody sends me an email where every third or fourth word is capitalized. someone was sending emails to me like this, and they were indeed angry.
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> I too felt all caps appears as if you are yelling.
> When in corporate world, I would always remind my
> employees to respond in both cases when sending
> emails are instant messages. I absolutely boiled
> when receiving a message typed in all caps. If
> after sending the employee two warnings and still
> no improvement, I would indicate this as a
> communication problem on their yearly evaluation.
what gets me is when somebody sends me an email where every third or fourth word is capitalized. someone was sending emails to me like this, and they were indeed angry.
To: Destiny1234
Yes, it could have been Ritter and Associates as I have not completed an assignment with them in a long time.
Thanks for jogging my memory!
UpDATE: I just completed an assignment with Ritter. YES, it requires reports in capitals. Why?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/02/2012 04:57PM by jerry1552.
Yes, it could have been Ritter and Associates as I have not completed an assignment with them in a long time.
Thanks for jogging my memory!
UpDATE: I just completed an assignment with Ritter. YES, it requires reports in capitals. Why?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/02/2012 04:57PM by jerry1552.
Yes, you're absolutely right. There is something behind the all caps. Most people know exactly what they are doing yet want to play ignorant.
richraynor Wrote:
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> Why is there so much hatred among people towards
> MSC's and schedulers? If you have a problem, just
> don't shop for them anymore. If you read that they
> are bad, don't join to shop them. Ok, so you lost
> 10-20 bucks. Move on. Be happy!
I don't think people hate schedulers, but what a few schedulers do. They will call you with a number that deliberately does not show the number. Then they ask you to call them back, they leave no email address or email you from an email address asking for information... and that email address is unattended. Meaning that you cannot effectively email back to them.
Customer service to us as shoppers is very important as well. We as shoppers view you, the MSC, by the way we are treated. When a scheduler is rude, pushy, does not allow for communication back, dings you for not accepting an offered shop... not good.
Don, Las Vegas
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> Why is there so much hatred among people towards
> MSC's and schedulers? If you have a problem, just
> don't shop for them anymore. If you read that they
> are bad, don't join to shop them. Ok, so you lost
> 10-20 bucks. Move on. Be happy!
I don't think people hate schedulers, but what a few schedulers do. They will call you with a number that deliberately does not show the number. Then they ask you to call them back, they leave no email address or email you from an email address asking for information... and that email address is unattended. Meaning that you cannot effectively email back to them.
Customer service to us as shoppers is very important as well. We as shoppers view you, the MSC, by the way we are treated. When a scheduler is rude, pushy, does not allow for communication back, dings you for not accepting an offered shop... not good.
Don, Las Vegas
For once, I completely agree with Don in Vegas on this. You would think that some schedulers would give you respect, even after you give them the utmost respect. My best revenge against them is waiting until these same schedulers get in a pinch to get last-minute work done. I either make myself unavailable or I negotiate a price 2.5 times higher than the usual fee, or more. It would be too easy for me to quit the MSC.
Why not 5 times higher Eric? I say go high and then let them negotiate it down. If you go much higher than you really are willing to accept, sometimes you will be surprised at what you get.
Flash Wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure it is NOT Mintel. They are too
> sane . . . I have never seen an all caps shop but
> I have heard of them and I remember one form from
> somewhere turned everything into all caps when I
> submitted it. It was sorta weird because I typed
> it with normal lower and upper case.
-+OooOooooooooooooooooo
Flash and others:
I just accepted an assignment from Ritter & Associates. This MSC requires all capital letters in its reports. Good thing I'm getting a bonus as it is difficult to type in all capitals!
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> I'm pretty sure it is NOT Mintel. They are too
> sane . . . I have never seen an all caps shop but
> I have heard of them and I remember one form from
> somewhere turned everything into all caps when I
> submitted it. It was sorta weird because I typed
> it with normal lower and upper case.
-+OooOooooooooooooooooo
Flash and others:
I just accepted an assignment from Ritter & Associates. This MSC requires all capital letters in its reports. Good thing I'm getting a bonus as it is difficult to type in all capitals!
destiny1234, there's a fine line between asking for a good bonus which allows some room for negotiation and hitting so far over the mark that they will just say "thanks anyway" and move on to the next phone call. When settling on a figure I want to be able to justify it either with time, distance, urgency, etc. By being reasonable you will also go much farther in developing and maintaining a good relationship. If a scheduler has $50 to offer why should they keep calling a shopper who asks for $150? They will assume the bonus doesn't work for you.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I understand that Lisa. Really I guess it depends on the MSC and shopper. I was asked to perform a shop in another state once. I figured in the distance, time, and inconvenience to me. When I quoted the rate I would charge to the scheduler, she agreed. I was floored, because I really thought she would not accept it. However, she did so I now figure when they are in a bind they will accept reasonable amounts. Likewise I must admit I also quoted another MSC a rate and they declined. So it depends on the MSC and how desperate they are to get shops performed.
I recently did a shop for Ritter and it did require all caps,but the form did not convert it automatically like it did in the past. I had to go back and redo the sentences when I remembered mid-report. PITA. I know it used to convert to upper case automatically, but it did not seem to do it this time. Anyone else notice that?
I wonder why they want all caps anyway.
I wonder why they want all caps anyway.
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I think part of the reason that worked for you is you had legitimate reasons and costs factored in to justify what you were asking. This scheduler may have already known much of what you figured. It probably went a long way with her knowing you weren't just asking for some ridiculous amount because you could. I don't think anyone should undervalue their time and expenses
destiny1234 Wrote:
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> I understand that Lisa. Really I guess it depends
> on the MSC and shopper. I was asked to perform a
> shop in another state once. I figured in the
> distance, time, and inconvenience to me. When I
> quoted the rate I would charge to the scheduler,
> she agreed. I was floored, because I really
> thought she would not accept it. However, she did
> so I now figure when they are in a bind they will
> accept reasonable amounts. Likewise I must admit I
> also quoted another MSC a rate and they declined.
> So it depends on the MSC and how desperate they
> are to get shops performed.
destiny1234 Wrote:
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> I understand that Lisa. Really I guess it depends
> on the MSC and shopper. I was asked to perform a
> shop in another state once. I figured in the
> distance, time, and inconvenience to me. When I
> quoted the rate I would charge to the scheduler,
> she agreed. I was floored, because I really
> thought she would not accept it. However, she did
> so I now figure when they are in a bind they will
> accept reasonable amounts. Likewise I must admit I
> also quoted another MSC a rate and they declined.
> So it depends on the MSC and how desperate they
> are to get shops performed.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I work monthly for an MSC that turns lower case into caps, strange, but my #1 company.
Live consciously....
Then also Lisa, the grade a shopper has with the company also has something to do with the rate they will pay/offer at times when calling. I have a very good rating with most of the companies I shop for. I remember one of the companies calling me and asking if I could perform a shop for them because they needed someone who was dependable and they could be guaranteed would perform the shop. The scheduler added that I had an amazing rating with them. I remember not pushing it because you want to maintain your reputation. So, I asked what they would offer for performing the job. When she stated the amount, I was very happy with it and agreed to perform the shop. I had it completed in a couple of hours; report and all.
Proof positive that it all works together Anyone is going to be willing to pay more when they are guaranteed quality. It also gets back to the companies we want to work with are those that appreciate what we do and that we can have an actual relationship with rather than some companies (CFA, MFI) who offer a buck or 2 with a take it or leave it attitude. They don't care how well the job is done as long as it is done.
Anyone is going to be willing to pay more when they are guaranteed quality. It also gets back to the companies we want to work with are those that appreciate what we do and that we can have an actual relationship with rather than some companies (CFA, MFI) who offer a buck or 2 with a take it or leave it attitude. They don't care how well the job is done as long as it is done.Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
SteveSoCal Wrote:
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> For me it's not hate, it's offense.
>
> I get offended by people taking advantage of
> others and making the industry look bad as a
> whole. There are different levels of offense,
> with scammers being at the top of it, followed by
> non-payment from MSCs.
>
> Shoppers are a big part of it too and we don't
> really see that so much on the boards, since any
> of us are long-term shoppers. As you scheduler,
> you have to deal with a lot of fly-by-night
> shoppers who try to cheat the system, hence the
> bad feeling that many schedulers have about
> shoppers.
Good grief.........."fly by night shoppers who try to cheat the system" who are these and how do they try to cheat the system? Do they ever succeed and how?
"...hence the bad feelings that many schedulers have about the shoppers".Could not the "bad feelings" be caused by other factors such as competition, deadline induced stress, lack of experience and even inflated self image. Surely the schedulers are more stable than that & no fly by night should get to them.
In 2012 may we engage only in well founded observations and not hyperbole based indictments! The facts, nothing but the facts!
Happy New Year everyone!
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> For me it's not hate, it's offense.
>
> I get offended by people taking advantage of
> others and making the industry look bad as a
> whole. There are different levels of offense,
> with scammers being at the top of it, followed by
> non-payment from MSCs.
>
> Shoppers are a big part of it too and we don't
> really see that so much on the boards, since any
> of us are long-term shoppers. As you scheduler,
> you have to deal with a lot of fly-by-night
> shoppers who try to cheat the system, hence the
> bad feeling that many schedulers have about
> shoppers.
Good grief.........."fly by night shoppers who try to cheat the system" who are these and how do they try to cheat the system? Do they ever succeed and how?
"...hence the bad feelings that many schedulers have about the shoppers".Could not the "bad feelings" be caused by other factors such as competition, deadline induced stress, lack of experience and even inflated self image. Surely the schedulers are more stable than that & no fly by night should get to them.
In 2012 may we engage only in well founded observations and not hyperbole based indictments! The facts, nothing but the facts!
Happy New Year everyone!
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