I just cancelled two remote shops for tonight. Why? Because they did not pay me today. I can't buy gas if I dont get paid. I am really tired of companies that don't place a priority on paying those who help keep them in business.

For the past ten days I've been getting multiple emails every day begging for these shops to be done. I do these shops for them most months so I had to wait until my 30 days were up. I accepted them in anticipation of being paid this week by a number of companies including Intellishop. So far no checks and no Paypal deposits from any of them. Between the companies, I'm owed over $1,000. I can only take from my pocket for so long. I draw the line when it is going to take food off our table or prevent me from completing shops for companies that pay on time every month.

I have no respect for any employer who does not put payroll at the top of their priority list. Yes, I know we are independent contractors, but same idea. You pay the little people first.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2013 01:00AM by whiterosie.

I agree! Marketing Endeavors is the only MSC I've received payment from so far this month.

Intellishop is well within their written payment terms right now because it clearly states payments will be sent to PayPal approximately 30 days after the last day of the month in which shops were completed. They go on to say they normally pay on the 20th. Confusing to be sure but worded in such a way that payments up until November 30 cannot be considered late. My records for the last few years have payments made anywhere from the 20th to the 22nd.

I've never experienced any problems getting paid in a timely fashion by Intellishop. I'm not keen on the terms of the timing, but they have met them.

Yes, I realize many of the companies have their terms worded to give themselves anywhere from a short range to a wide range of payment dates. And I accepted that. Now I am no longer accepting it. With one exception (last month) I ve been paid on the 20th unless the 20th fell on a weekend. I chocked it up to "whatever" last month. Now that it has happened twice, that is it for me.

They get really nasty when their reports aren't turned in within 12 hours. I get equally nasty when I don't get paid. And I might add, a couple of times on these very shops I have pulled over to the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and entered shops for them because I got an email begging me to get them in much sooner than the 12-hour deadline because their backs were up against the wall for the client.

There will be someone who will come along and complete them for them for the next few months until they get tired of it. There always is. That's the problem in a poor economy in a below-the-povery-line region. But as to me, I'm done. I will continue to work for companies where I don't have to deal with snotty reviewers and where they pay like clockwork. Sorry, but I feel I'm worth it.

You are worth it!

Related question: how long does it take Intellishop to rate an assignment on average? I did a technology store audit a little over a week ago and no rating as of earlier today when I looked.

Mine are usually rated the same day or next day.

I have not been terribly happy with the payment policy of IS, I always bank on two months or more out.....some excellent shops, but the payment always seems a long time out.

I have found that the amount of time it takes intellishop to rate an assignment varies depending on how busy the editors are and the priority of my shop versus whatever else they have on their queue.

I didn't get paid either. I emailed them and the scheduler and no reply. If I do get paid, I'm deactivating 15 seconds later. Enough money out of my pocket and then waiting till they feel like paying.,

They are incredibly picky and I have traveled 45 m8nutes one way todo a job for them and then they state that I didn't follow something in their instructions. I went back and went over everything and the thing they mentioned (been a while sio I don't remember) simply was not there. Yes, I have been paid by them maybe once out of 3 times, so......I simply don't need them and refuse to take a chance again with them. With gas prices as they are we, shoppers, are simply being taken advantage of. Even a good company I've worked withfor years lowered our pay right when gas prices went up so I just stay in my area. One company, Bestmark, is at least offering "travel" bonuses.Too bad there are not many shops in my one hour radius!

I always got paid by them. I think my paypal come around the 25 of each months.

Intellishop has been known to pay by 60 days. Here lately they say that shops will be paid in 30 but I have still witnessed up to 60 days. I think they have to wait to be paid by the client. I am not fund of the prolonged payment either because I usually buy with my credit card so I feel ya.

Back when I worked for a corporation, to make money, they pushed their payments to their vendors out to 90 to 120 days from the typical 30 to 60 days. At the same time, they began raising prices on their products and demanding payments from their customers within 2 weeks.
When I asked one of their accountants about this practice, he explained how they "made" money by simply allowing the money sitting in their coffers to gain interest over that longer period as well as the shortened payment period.
They were selling a product used in older machines that was vital to their operation.
End result: the customers made the decision to reinvest ASAP in modernising their production equipment, thereby no longer needing the vital product the corporation sold. As their sales declined, their creditors demanded payment sooner or else they would be cut off from receiving materials needed. The corporation had to lay off most of its workforce, then sell all of its divisions but one and now is currently floundering.
All because their greed for short term money figures consumed them.

Payment!

I cut ties with them a long time ago and have NOT looked back since......there's always another company out there you will like better....I feel for you.

My payment came before the crack of dawn this morning. They could have pushed the button before they went home yesterday but made the decision not to. Oh well. It's their business model not mine. There will always be someone who will pick up the jobs because they are desperate for money. I prefer integrity first.

Tatjana Wrote:
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> Back when I worked for a corporation, to make
> money, they pushed their payments to their vendors
> out to 90 to 120 days from the typical 30 to 60
> days. At the same time, they began raising prices
> on their products and demanding payments from
> their customers within 2 weeks.
> When I asked one of their accountants about this
> practice, he explained how they "made" money by
> simply allowing the money sitting in their coffers
> to gain interest over that longer period as well
> as the shortened payment period.
> They were selling a product used in older machines
> that was vital to their operation.
> End result: the customers made the decision to
> reinvest ASAP in modernising their production
> equipment, thereby no longer needing the vital
> product the corporation sold. As their sales
> declined, their creditors demanded payment sooner
> or else they would be cut off from receiving
> materials needed. The corporation had to lay off
> most of its workforce, then sell all of its
> divisions but one and now is currently
> floundering.
> All because their greed for short term money
> figures consumed them.

lol...@Tatjana, were you working for the IRS? After I read that to my husband he pointed out that, the IRS created that greedy model.

@Curlzzzzzzzzzz: No, just a company whose only thought was short term gains (not even a five year plan). From what I understand, many companies have plans that go out 25 years.
It was funny after leaving them to hear how they were losing their customers. Many of us who worked there at the time, saw the handwriting on the wall - there is a tipping point - they went over it.
Heh

Re: "Greedy model." I will preface this by saying I am a lifelong Republican. That fact does not blind me to what so much of corporate America has become: G R E E D Y. For that matter, upper echelon government employees are equally greedy and full of the entitlement philosophy. At some point there will be revolt and it can't be fast enough for me.

My last job before retirement was working with recovering drug addicts and felons to find employment. I helped a whole heck of a lot if them find jobs at Wal-Mart and Arches, both felon-friendly employers. But in Wal-Mart's case, it wasn't so much being felon friendly as it was wanting workers who were eligible for food stamps and Medi-Cal. Then Wal-Mart got away with not providing health insurance as long as they gave the employees 20 hours a week at minimum wage. That met federal Welfare-to-Work requirements and Wal-Mart got a tax break.

Someone sent me an article the other day about the Wal-Mart in Canton, Ohio conducting a Thanksgiving food drive for its own employees. I wonder what Sam Walton would say about that? I cannot even imagine running a company, personally making hundreds of millions of dollars a year and then sitting down to enjoy Thanksgiving dinner knowing that you have employees going hungry AND expecting customers to donate to them.

I guess it is just how it is today. But it doesn't stop me from getting irritated with MSCs with the same philosophy of maximizing profits on the backs of those who keep them in business.

I agree on Walmart, whiterosie. They treat their employees shabbily and place little value on their contributions to corporate success. I won't walk in the door of one of their stores. I prefer Costco which treats its employees well. They will not open on Thanksgiving nor will Nordstrom regardless of whether the competition does or not.

Agree w/ bobw & whiterosie. Walmart's "let them eat cake" philosophy defies any sense of morals, ethics and justice. They're one of the richest companies in America but their asking their customers pitch in and cover Thanksgiving for their employees??? I too am a life-long Republican, but can easily see a class war and uprising coming if companies continue their blind pursuit of profit for a few scored from the backs of the working poor. Being a "Have Not" hurts.

Paypal payment came in today for the oil change. That is the only shop I do for them every 4 months. Synthetic oil.

I worked for a Walmart buyer at a distribution center. That was the worst working years of my life. I always say there was something "DARK" you could feel as soon as you entered that building.

Check out the list of the wealthiest people in the world. These are the only ones I could find in the top 100 worlwide, but then again it only goes down to 11.4 billion.

Number 10 - Christy Walton, 38.4 billion
Number 11 - Jim Walton, 36.6 billion
Number 12 - S Robson Walton, 35.6 billion
Number 14 - Alice Walton, 35 billion

And then there are the poor relations who only make the top 100 list for the US: Anne Walton Kroenke, 6.7 billion and Nancy Walton Laurie, 4 billion;

That makes for a combined net worth of 155 billion. How far do you think it would go toward improving the lives of their own employees and the employees of the companies who make up their supply chain if each of them chipped in a few billion? You think they could manage to slog by with only 30 billion or so a piece or would they have to cut back too much? I realize it would probably be a burden on the two with less than 7.

Intellishop paid today. Thank God! They've gotten better from the over 60 days it used to take to get paid.

I also got paid. And, while I understand wanting to get paid on the day you expect it or in the OP's case the day you got paid a while ago or before, they are still paying as agreed. We are free to take jobs with certain companies or not take them. But saying bad things about a company for not paying as you wanted (when it is still within the stated time-frame of payment) is unfair. Whether OP was happy or not, the bottom line is the shop company paid as agreed. I think it is important to mention this in this thread.

Well said, Bunny. I work for who I want, when I want. I make a decision based on when their stated payment terms, about whether I will work for a company or not. Of course, I like it when a company pays me early, but as long as the company meets the payment deadline according to the payment terms they stated, I figure they have lived up to their agreement with me.

If they miss the deadline for payment accoring to their STATED payment terms, or they make me remind them that they owe me money, that's a reason to never work for them again. But if I don't like the payment agreement they post, and I think it's unacceptable, I don't accept the assignments in the first place. By accepting the assignments, I've agreed to whatever terms were posted by the company.

I keep hearing that they pay 60 days out but I've always been lucky enough to get paid after 30 days