Issue with all Prophet companies.

I've noticed something with all Prophet companies. I'm not sure if it's a mistake or not. Whenever I'm searching their job board, I usually check the shops outside my area. EVERY Phophet company (except for About Face) always shows that I am not eligible for those jobs. I can see maybe one or two here and there, but it is every single one.

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Prophet does seem to do a better job of excluding you from seeing shops for which you truly are not eligible by age or affiliation. So from time to time I can pull up a state with shops in 5 cities and be "Not Eligible". But more frequently no cities at all come up and I am "Not Eligible". My reaction is that no shops in an area yields the "Not Eligible"

My sense is that shoppers need to be positively selected to see certain clients and if you see them, you can select the jobs. It seems a philosophical difference from SASSIE where you can see everything including jobs for which you are obviously not eligible but most frequently need to request the shops.
This does not have anything to do with PROPHET but how the mystery shopping company company has it set up to show shops, eligibility, etc.
dcrector Wrote:
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> This does not have anything to do with PROPHET but
> how the mystery shopping company company has it
> set up to show shops, eligibility, etc.


I could be wrong, but I do believe it to be something to do with Prophet because it does not happen with any other company besides those that use the Prophet system.
I have had a few instances where I have qualified for shops outside of the areas of consideration. It does seem that only Prophet hinders you with this process however I also find that most times you don't want the jobs because they're usually out of the jurisdiction that you normally work in and at an average pay which in fact is no good once you take out mileage and time utilized to complete it~ Does that make sense to you?? PS; What else is ironic is that when I first came on the forums a lot of people said to me 'Run like Hades ' when it came to Prophet maintained sites I found out that it was only the software used just as Sassie is the software that the competitive site uses,however I do more shops for Prophet now than I would have ever imagined~ That's Progress Huh??
We all have our preferred systems to deal with, just as we all have our preferred companies, clients and survey types. As generalities, I prefer companies that use Prophet because I am very comfortable with narrative and find more companies with narrative requirements there and on some non-standard reporting software sites. I find the job descriptions minimalistic on ShopMetrics software sites and more than once have kicked myself for a shop accepted based on those minimalistic descriptions. I have had errors with Prophet where shop documents won't open because evidently there is some trick to getting them properly attached that is a challenge to some schedulers. I am finding that I like ClientSmart software reasonably well, though the first round of shops I did with it was a real nightmare and even now moving around in a report is not intuitive. SASSIE is definitely the easiest software for me to use, though in my market it is also with the overall lowest paying jobs. But I do like any software where I can see my uploaded receipts and proofs to make certain they are clear and legible before I submit the work.
Yep, ain't that the truth, we all have our own preferences. I personally prefer Sassie over all the others, due to it's "flaking" less frequenty for me, and allowing pdfs of reports to be saved without me having to remember before submitting to break the page out of a frame and print to pdf, like with Prophet. Prophet and Shopmetrics are my least favorite systems.

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~Gilbert K. Chesterton
Fascinating. I have no problems with 'print to pdf' catching the reports in Prophet. Shopmetrics is a problem because of the multiple pages won't automatically 'print'.
In my opinion, Prophet has one very big pro and one big con.

The pro is unlike Sassie it give you access to the entire instructions before you self-assign. This way there are no surprises once you receive the shop.

On the other hand, I would like to be able to see stages that my completed shops go through, like received, paid, etc. It is a little worrysome when I can never tell if anyone has read my shop and whether it is going to be paid in the near future.
Totally agree, shop-a-holic. Also, I like that Prophet shops are self-assign. BUT I do not like that most the self-assigns require the commitment of a date; some require a TIME OF DAY, like 11/21 5:00 p.m. I find that very limiting.
shop-a-holic Wrote:
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> In my opinion, Prophet has one very big pro and
> one big con.
>
> The pro is unlike Sassie it give you access to the
> entire instructions before you self-assign. This
> way there are no surprises once you receive the
> shop.
>
> On the other hand, I would like to be able to see
> stages that my completed shops go through, like
> received, paid, etc. It is a little worrysome
> when I can never tell if anyone has read my shop
> and whether it is going to be paid in the near
> future.
Prophet has continued to make advances over time. They only added the possibility of seeing out-of-area shops a couple of years ago and the ability to see submitted shops is only within the past year or so. I suspect in the future more of the attributes of other software will be incorporated.
Flash Wrote:
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> Fascinating. I have no problems with 'print to
> pdf' catching the reports in Prophet. Shopmetrics
> is a problem because of the multiple pages won't
> automatically 'print'.


For me, on a mac in FF, it prints only the first of the page and then it can't see the rest. If I break it out of the frame, I can print the whole doc no issues. But it is an extra step I sometimes forget to do and then later find I only have part of my report. I also dislike that it cuts the text box size smaller than what I wrote, if it was a long narrative, so I have to keep a word doc and the pdf of the prophet doc to have a complete record of what I submitted.

Plus, prophet just wigs out more frequently for me. I think I have only had a Sassie crash once or twice, but Prophet will crash and I lose my work much more often, even though I do less shops on Prophet.

Shopmetrics all shows as one long page for me.

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“Lying in bed would be an altogether perfect and supreme experience if only one had a colored pencil long enough to draw on the ceiling."
~Gilbert K. Chesterton
Where the Shopmetrics report was 1 continous page there is, obviously, no problem. With multiple page reports I need to remember to go to the review page to have all answers as a continuous page.
I have never seen a multiple page Shopmetrics report. Interesting. :-)

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“Lying in bed would be an altogether perfect and supreme experience if only one had a colored pencil long enough to draw on the ceiling."
~Gilbert K. Chesterton
I still have a problem adjusting to Prophet. It seems no matter how many I complete, I continue to have to redo narratives more often through Prophet software than with any of the others. I'll be the first to admit, when I finish a report and hit submit in the Prophet system I quietly say a prayer that everything gets to where it's suppose to go. Is there a trick to Prophet I haven't figured out, yet? I'm acquiescing to putting the narratives in MS Word versus having to redo them what seems like constantly.

I, too, find that Sassie is the easiest to work with and am most comfortable with it's intricacies. It allows for out of the ordinary occurrences and additional information when the situation calls for it. Wish more companies would consider this system.
joanhampton Wrote:
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Wish more companies would
> consider this system.

Ohhh, nooo. I am so thankful for those that do not use it.
Flash Wrote:
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> I think she meant that she wished more of them
> used SASSIE.


I know. SASSIE companies are my least favorite for some reason. Maybe because the large majority of them only pay via Paypal.
And my least favorite because the pay seems lower than for similar work using other software providers.
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Yeah, I Have meet such thing with Prophet companies.
AM, I do get some prophet shops that are not self-assign, but they are higher end, scheduler selected shopper ones and where after invitation and applying te scheduler schedules you. But, yes, for the most part I do like that they are self-assign, and hate the must give exact day which is frequently not changeable without scheduler intervention.

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“Lying in bed would be an altogether perfect and supreme experience if only one had a colored pencil long enough to draw on the ceiling."
~Gilbert K. Chesterton
With a bunch of my Prophet companies the 'invitation' to do them is that they show up as an option in your account--whether it is 'shops I can accept' or 'out of area' shops. One of my quickly-becoming-favorite companies sends me emails about shop availability. I dropped the scheduler an email about another location in the chain and got back "I authorized you to see it" very quickly in my email, so grabbed it smiling smiley
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