Oh hell no, TS. I will not go to the sex-offender motel for $15!

So I usually don't even open TrendSource inspection emails because the pay is laughably low and I don't feel comfortable making some of the determinations they request. On a whim, I opened one today only to see the location is a motel well-known to be home to numerous registered sex-offenders. It is nicknamed the Pedo-tel. It is one of the few inexpensive places that meets all of the distance requirements so they are concentrated there.

I mean really... even $1500 wouldn't be enough to get me to wander around that place.

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You are prejudiced. That is really awful what you said. Are they asking you to stay there? Are they asking you to take your kids with you? It's a hotel for heaven's sake. You go do your job and leave. S O definitions are so broad you have no clue how that person even became a Sex Offender so you do not even know if that person is a predator or not. I know a girl (she was young in her early 20's) and a bunch of guys asked her to see her breasts. She flashed them, the same as they do at spring break or Mardi Gras. They charged her and threatened to make her an S O. They didn't thankfully, but they could have.
I would go take pictures at the hotel. and leave. Of course, most people won't mess with me, (ha) because I'm not a small petite female. Never have been. I loved full tackle football in high school because with my broad shoulders I was bigger and stronger than most females and played as a linebacker and no could ever tackle me.
When I was 18 I dated a 17-year-old who lied to me and told me he was 18. I was young and naive and didn't know any better. Thank goodness I never got caught up in a situation like this.
P S: Trendsourse is in San Diego. They are not wherever you live how can you expect them to know what that place caters to?? There are gas stations we won't do and we don't get mad at the MSP for putting it on the board. They don't know that gangs and dope boys hang out at that particular station!
I seriously doubt this is the first time that hotel was shopped, so TS very likely knows it is home to pervs. F &L, since you have those big broad shoulders and were a linebacker, you go!
In many states, the age of consent is 17 ( in some it's 16). In only about 10 states is the age of consent 18.
Most OSI's that I do like this are for banks when they want to borrow money. That doesn't mean the location has been shopped before. If it's for a company that needs the report to pull credit reports or something that has absolutely nothing to do with who they rent to. I still think you are overreacting.
So why slam the MSP? I still don't understand. They offer a job and it's up to you to decide if this is something that you want to do or not. There are lots of jobs I won't do. The Ross sizing shops, the demonstrating jobs(like giving away free samples). But I don't slam the MSP for it! and I'm a real shopper, not a troll. captcha
Now that is funny.
@JASFLALMT wrote:

If they call it the Pedo-tel, you are probably not their type.
I love demonstration jobs, personally. I make $25-$30 per hour on those. I haven't done the Ross sizing audits but I think I might try one. They just opened a Ross store in my region for the first time and I saw that it was bonused last month, but I was busy at the time and couldn't take it.
Fine, I'm predjudiced and over-reacting. *shrug* I'm still not going to do it. Maybe you can get a nice PAD - knock yourself out, its all yours.

@F and L TeleComm wrote:

So why slam the MSP? I still don't understand. They offer a job and it's up to you to decide if this is something that you want to do or not. There are lots of jobs I won't do. The Ross sizing shops, the demonstrating jobs(like giving away free samples). But I don't slam the MSP for it! and I'm a real shopper, not a troll. captcha


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Linebackers may get blocked but it is an infraction if they are tackled. They do the tackling.
I didn't want to do all that typing Lljake! Offensive and defensive. I hated flag football. All they had to do was grab the flag. But full tackle now I had it made! lol. I blocked yes. But I also, on another play, could not be tackled. Two separate plays of course! just too much typing.
@callinectes wrote:

Fine, I'm predjudiced and over-reacting. *shrug* I'm still not going to do it. Maybe you can get a nice PAD - knock yourself out, its all yours.
FWIW I would have had the same reaction had I been offered that location.
How are you prejudiced for knowing and speaking about what kind of business this place is?? I live in a very seasonal town, but in the outskirts, you wouldn't catch me dead near any of the hotels and several of the businesses because I know what happens there. How is she (or he...sorry, not good with pronouns @callinectes) showing prejudice?

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@Jenny Cassada wrote:

How are you prejudiced for knowing and speaking about what kind of business this place is?? I live in a very seasonal town, but in the outskirts, you wouldn't catch me dead near any of the hotels and several of the businesses because I know what happens there. How is she (or he...sorry, not good with pronouns @callinectes) showing prejudice?

Get woke Jenny! (Referencing a thread in General Chat).
And you can't assume gender pronouns, so you can use "they" even though it's plural for singular. smiling smiley
I don't understand the prejudice label either. Judging sex offenders is vastly different from judging or disassociating from a group due to race, etc. My state (as most do now) has a Romeo and Juliet law so the examples offered by F and L TeleComm don't even apply.
Uhm, hit a nerve? You kind of went off the rails.

@F and L TeleComm wrote:

You are prejudiced. That is really awful what you said. Are they asking you to stay there? Are they asking you to take your kids with you? It's a hotel for heaven's sake. You go do your job and leave. S O definitions are so broad you have no clue how that person even became a Sex Offender so you do not even know if that person is a predator or not. I know a girl (she was young in her early 20's) and a bunch of guys asked her to see her breasts. She flashed them, the same as they do at spring break or Mardi Gras. They charged her and threatened to make her an S O. They didn't thankfully, but they could have.
I would go take pictures at the hotel. and leave. Of course, most people won't mess with me, (ha) because I'm not a small petite female. Never have been. I loved full tackle football in high school because with my broad shoulders I was bigger and stronger than most females and played as a linebacker and no could ever tackle me.
When I was 18 I dated a 17-year-old who lied to me and told me he was 18. I was young and naive and didn't know any better. Thank goodness I never got caught up in a situation like this.

"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
You are so right @SoCalMama! I know better, but after a few bourbons, my "wokeness" had faded.

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I worked as a correctional officer in Texas at a S O halfway house, that used to be a one way in and a one way out hotel (built like a U). I know that some of them got a raw deal from the court system. (an imperfect system as we know it).I am not a S O nor have I ever been charged with a sex offense. But as someone who has a little more experience in this area than you maybe I am sympathetic. But each person is an individual and deserves to be treated as such. Are there predators? Yes, of course, there are. Are there some I don't want to be around? Of course. But don't judge the entire group for the actions of one or a few. And yes, I do think that being prejudiced against a group for the actions of a few is wrong. It all depends on the court system that tries the crime. If they are a low-income black man odds are they will get a raw deal. If they are a high society caucasian man odds are they may get a slap on the wrist if the situation wasn't too predatory. I live in Georgia which exemplifies an imperfect system with a vast discrepancy in situations and sentences. Some of these guys were stupid in their youth and just want to get on with their life. I can give you example after example of people who are mislabeled or sentenced harsher than was necessary. If you have kids you check the registrar to see who is in your neighborhood. But I never let my kids go to the park or playground unsupervised. I could NEVER understand when I went to apartment complexes and saw kids outside playing as young as 3,4, and 5 unsupervised. Teachers who do things to kids is one area that is hard for parents to protect their kids from. But a 5-year-old has no business walking home from the bus stop unescorted. (A rare occasion like the mom's car breaks down and she can't get home on time is the exception to this rule). My kids have been car riders many times. My oldest son is the main one who used the school bus. But his bus stop was two houses away and you could see him from the yard.
And before you start defending our judicial system think about this. I know a woman, a single mom who was struggling, got arrested for shoplifting in the wrong town. They gave her 15 years probation and two years in prison. She lost custody of her kids to the state as a result. (she had no family to take care of her kids while she was locked up. The state terminated her parental rights to five of her younger kids). Two counties over she would have got 6 months in jail and a couple of years probation. I know of people with worse crimes who received less time than she did.
I'd do it for $200 and call it cultural anthropology field work.

There are trailer parks that cater to this demographic. Investors purchase old parks out in the middle of nowhere and rent exclusively to sex offenders. A quick google search brings up a documentary called Pervert Park.
Don't shoplift. Problem solved. Or, come to California, where you can steal up to $950 per incident and it's a misdemeanor. Walk in, steal a couple of cases of beer. Walk out. All day, every day.
Okay, I'm supposed to NOT be prejudiced against convicted sex offenders simply because they are sex offenders? Gee wilikers, Mr F&T, I'm so glad you told me and everyone else all that.
@MrEd I saw that film as part of a film show and it was a well made horrifying film.

We had a huge problem where I live with sex offenders because of a program where newly released prisoners were given a bus ticket and a voucher and this was a place where they could use their vouchers. Hotel owners who don't get much business in the off season, all of a sudden had full occupancy. Never mind that most of them weren't from here and this is the last place to "start over" because unemployment is high and work is seasonal. Duh. Last year, they stopped that program and the amount of people on the SO list has dropped significantly. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to be around that element. I don't have kids, but my now 12 year old niece lives 2 blocks from one of those hotels that were taking the vouchers and at one point I checked that site every day to see if there was anyone new she needed to watch out for.

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To me, the term "prejudice" has to do with negative preconceptions based on a person's skin color, ethnicity, etc. I don't put "registered sex offenders" in the same category at all. The reason: Folks who have convicted of a "sex offense" have committed an act that has resulted in the classification. In other words, they did something society deems "very bad" and put themselves on the list. Moreover, they are generally "registered" because they are considered to have a high probability of committing the offense again. (Yes, I recognize that folks can be falsely convicted. I am not intending to address that here.)

I very much believe that folks who have "done their time" should have the opportunity to re-enter society and attempt to live a productive life. (Otherwise, we might as well lock everybody up forever.) Registered sex offenders, therefore, must be able to live, work, shop, etc. However, due to the nature (and huge variety) of "registered sex offenders," I fully support restrictions that keep them certain distances from various locations, such as schools. I also would not blame anybody for choosing not to go near a place where such folks are known to reside. If I were asked to shop an apartment or motel where such folks were know to reside, I probably would (if the MSC met my fee requirements). Honestly, I would not be comfortable with my wife doing so.

Put another way: I would have no problem allowing somebody who is white, black, Latino, Jewish, gay, Christian, Islamic, atheist, etc. babysit my granddaughter. Unless, however, that person were a registered sex offender. I don't see that as "prejudiced." I see that as protective, cautious, and obvious.

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@callinectes wrote:

Fine, I'm predjudiced and over-reacting. *
Everyone is prejudiced. It simply means we have a preconceived notion about something. Prejudice is different than racism -- a racist continues to hold on to those feelings even when confronted with facts that are contrary to his prejudice.

The nice thing about public sex offender registries is that (at least here), we can see their stories. The overwhelming majority of those in my area who have a high risk of reoffending are middle-aged males who prey on young boys. They're concentrated primarily in one neighborhood -- which my kidlets have always known is off-limits; yes, I have made a prejudgement about that neighborhood. We do have one who lives down the street - a young man who claims the sex with the equally young girl was consensual, but when they got caught at her job, she claimed rape. He's level 3 only because he refused to ever admit that it was anything other than a hookup.

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I am pretty sure there is at least one sex offender per two blocks on the average in my neighborhood. I once looked at the registry and found a house just down the street from me that was registered. My kids are grown but I never heard about any issues. I live in a neighborhood where the houses are quite pricey. too if you are imaging some run down part of town.
I think I would have more of an issue doing a hotel shop for $15 than I would have doing a hotel shop where sex offenders lived. I have stayed at Welfare motels and I once stayed at a motel which turned out to be a place where sex for pay went on. That one I got using Priceline. Since I could not get my money back easily after bidding I decided to drive over there and check it out. It was quite nice and they said all the sex workers have rooms on the other side. It was quiet and well kept the few nights I was there.
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