KateH Wrote:
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>
> 3) Why would the police refuse to provide a police
> report? It is a public document and they readily
> provide it. One just needs to follow the
> instruction show to get it. Only the info about
> the thieves might be blacked out but that is not a
> requirement for the insurance. Plus, if GM made a
> police report about the theft, then she must have
> one of the copies since she must have signed it.
>

Where I live you do not get a police report at the time of an incident. You receive a tiny 2" x 3" slip of paper with a police report number on it. You do not sign anything nor does the responding officer. You must then wait until the report is actually available which usually takes a couple of weeks. You may then request a copy which you must also pay for.

But you do get a report at the end. I am just pasting what GM wrote as a summary:

"I am getting harassment from the police department. They are refusing to release information. They keep saying that vagrants cant have a vehicle. They are not listening to me. They are waiting for the insurance company to come & prove it is mine. Again on the premises that I was traveling & thus a vagrant. It was best & safer to leave the small mindedness of the tiny town. My insurance cant do anything until they have a report. They have to get the report since I am getting a run around. It is a mess."

"The registration, title, bill of sale is all in the truck. My license has an address different from the title & bill of sale which is different from the registration. This is a reason why I am getting harassment. My plates were from Oregon, my license from Missouri, my insurance was from Washington. My credit cards/ banks are from Florida, Georgia, & New York. They are refusing to hear me out. I was going to center my information to one location when I snowbird in October to Montana then on to Arizona. Yes my information is a choatic mess that most people w/ narrow minds will not understand however if you trace my travels it makes sense. Problem is I cant get these cops to listen to me. To them, I am a menace to society w/an evil pitbull. It was easier & safer all around to leave and wait it out in another city/ state."

The "runaround" is not because she is a vagrant but because the police is suspecting illegal activities. If the car is registered in OR (license plates) then it is required by law to have auto insurance from OR, not WA, according to the DMV in both these states. The driver's license can be from anywhere where the driver resides, but if the individual is the registered car owner, and this is a personal vehicle, not commercial, then car registration, car insurance, and DL have to be from the same state.

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GM, we do not judge you. Just saying that the problem with the police attitude is not that you travel around but that everything with your paperwork was not following the state law from your state, whatever it was, and thus you appeared suspicious to them. The incident happened on the RI/MA border, an area where the mob still has many activities, and there are a lot of colleges and private schools in the area and the police wants to ensure the peace and safety of that population as it is a major income generator. Plus, from early May until early June it is commencement period in the area and there are many high importance dignitaries and their families who travel, ie Musharaf of Pakistan had his son here and came to visit unannounced at the time, the Premiere of China has his daughter at Harvard, etc Without counting private high schools like Milton Academy, etc, there are more than 100 colleges and universities in MA, and the border is very close to RI that ahs brown, RISD, and others. Brown is a magnet for the kids of kings and foreign diplomats.

GM, I think everyone wishes you the best...I know I do. It seems you have the grit it takes to overcome most difficult situations.

LisaSTL Wrote:
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> Since something was totally missed in the
> translation I have actually quoted myself.
> Apparently I should have been more clear about
> finding my insurance to be "cheaper" than coming
> up with thousands of dollars to replace a car,
> compounded by the loss of income. Having several
> permanent projects which must be completed on a
> monthly basis, being unable to meet those
> commitments could result in me losing them
> permanently.
>
> In case it wasn't clear the first time, I was
> being specific to my situation. It wasn' even a
> comment regarding the OP and was in response to
> the comment, "The people who can pay a high
> premium........could replace the item on their own
> if they had to."
>
> The single biggest investment and most expensive
> piece of business equipment I own is my car. The
> loss of anything else, video camera, computers or
> smart phone, would not prevent me from working.
> Choosing to make whatever sacrifices necessary to
> protect the one thing that allows me to earn a
> living is not a sign of wealth, just a prudent
> business decision.
>
> LisaSTL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> "After buying my car I could not have afforded to
> replace it if it was totaled or stolen...........
> Regardless, $400 or so a year was cheap compared
> to the alternative."

Yes, Lisa, absolutely something was lost in the translation. Because the very casual, non-judgmental comment I made that caused you to respond, "That's not true," thus calling me a liar and triggering my reaction is NOT what you quoted above. It was: The people who can pay a high premium **without thinking about it** could **probably** replace the item on their own if they had to."

Which is very different from what you quoted above. And the fact that in order to quote me like that, you had to deliberately delete some of my words proves that you knew you were misquoting me. Yes, there definitely were some things lost in the translation. However, you are the one who lost them.

YOU are the one who became argumentative here. Yes, I may have defended myself more harshly than some here feel was warranted, but I took it personally because I know people for whom $35 a month is a lot of money and I don't appreciate being called a liar.

I also don't appreciate having words put into (or taken out of) my mouth, which you should have learned when bgriffin thought he would be cute by deliberately misquoting me to try to get a laugh. You been taking lessons from him?


So you may have called me a liar in response to what you *thought* I said (or are now trying to pretend I said), and I called you a snob in response to what you actually *did* say, but may not have meant the way it came out.

I'd call that even at this point.

YAWN!!!!!!

Sorry, Irene, I didn't let bgriffin get away with misquoting me and I'm not going to stand by and watch anyone else do it either. Toggle me if you want.

dspeakes, perhaps you're confused? I just went back through and did not see any point in this thread where Lisa quoted you. Correctly or incorrectly. The quote that you seem to be hung up on is one that she quoted OF HERSELF as a way to help clarify what she meant. Apparently above being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative you also seem to have some odd feeling that you are misquoted constantly.

Also, there was no try. I got quite a few laughs out of that. Both because it was funny and because you acted like such a 3 year old child over it.

dspeakes, what is YOUR obsession with LisaSTL? Every time I log on to the forum, you are flapping your gums about something she did or said or insinuated. If you don't like what she has to say, just toggle her. I am sure that her feelings will not be hurt in the least bit.

And I think I am speaking for many of the forum members when I say, we are sick and tired of your negative and argumentative posts. ENOUGH ALREADY! This obsession with LisaSTL is creepy. Still not as creepy as the leather underwear thing but creepy nonetheless.

THE END

Shop2LiveinFL Wrote:
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> dspeakes, what is YOUR obsession with LisaSTL?
> Every time I log on to the forum, you are flapping
> your gums about something she did or said or
> insinuated.

I've noticed that too! It's like 3 people can say the exact same thing to her and Lisa is the one she gets all pissy at about it.

BG, I did quote her and left out the word probably. It probably wouldn't have prevented more arguing anyway.

AH! I see it. I was looking for the "quote" lines and you actually just cut and pasted. Please forgive me.

Donate your computer to the poor, and go away!

Shop2LiveinFL Wrote:
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Still not
> as creepy as the leather underwear thing but
> creepy nonetheless.
>
> THE END


What is wrong with leather underwear?

Nothing but mrcomputerhead asking gypsy over and over about her choice of leather underwear was incredibly creepy.

This is an afterthought on the OP's lifestyle and problems, some of which are to her making and others not. We all have problems (seriously) throughout life, cancer, divorce, loss of a child and recently, I had to rent out my home and move in order to place my sister in an assisted living home...very hard to do, but she had severe Dementia and lost 100% of her short term memory. Why would I expect anyone to care, this was our families problem, and an expensive one. GM has problems by making her life choice's.....life is rough, deal with it, and let's all move on!!



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techman01 Wrote:
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> What is wrong with leather underwear?


The main thing that comes to mind, is, they seem like they may be pretty warm. Not ever having tried any myself, I don't have first-hand experience here; I'm just guessing based on the general properties of leather. Anyway, being fairly warm, they could make the wearer all sweaty, thus cancelling out any (or most of the) sexiness the wearer was trying to achieve.

Also, just how far into semantics are we going to go, here? For cryin' out loud. The general concept, and the intention behind it, has been stated and re-stated. And seems perfectly clear.

But it has been mildly entertaining, in a disturbing kind of way.

I wish I could hit LIKE 20 times on Shop2live's post! No more negative, judgmental and argumentative posts! And the attacks on Lisa and others needs to stop now.

Lisa called you a liar? I missed that. Where? dspeaks you might want to move on to another forum or site. I have been a part of this forum for over a year. Yes, I have been chewed up and spit out. I had thin skin at first, but they were only trying to help me not hurt me. Anytime I have PM'ed anyone of this forum they have kindly been there to help me. They will throw out a troll like, like? Somebody help me here? As far as I can spit? Drink my first drink at five? It might behoove you to find another site.

Not exactly leather underwear but maybe this will lighten the mood...

[www.bing.com]

GM, I live in Virginia. PM me and if I can help I will.

bgriffin Wrote:
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> sandyf Wrote:
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> > I would rather
> > bank that money since I can afford to and be my
> > own insurance.
>
> That's the entire difference. If you could not
> afford to replace that vehicle yourself would you
> be so quick to drop comprehensive? The whole
> point of the comprehensive insurance discussion
> was that ability to replace the vehicle was more
> important than the value of the vehicle. Your
> post seems to indicate that you don't pay for
> comprehensive because the value of the car is too
> low, but then later you seemed to indicate that
> you could afford to replace that vehicle if you
> had to. I would suggest that the ability to
> replace was actually the driving factor in that
> decision.

bgriffin I hear what you are saying. I have no idea what Gypsy's situation is. Does she have insurance, how much does it cost, what is her truck worth, what are her savings? I do not expect her to reveal that but the discussion about carrying comprehensive seemed to me to say (not directed at Gypsy) that it would be silly for anyone not to carry comprehensive insurance. I was merely stating that carrying comprehensive on an old now inexpensive automobile is a choice that would not be considered wise by many people. Each person's situation is different and people need to consider their choices in where to spend money based on their personal situation and not do something because every one else does or seems to do based on advertising.

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My mom got sick and i took her to the hospital. I had to pick up my daughter from dance class. On the way from picking her up I felt my car was going to stop. I got off the highway and my car stopped at the end of the ramp. I called 911, police gave me a ticket then pushed me off the ramp. My car was towed ..engine problems. Had to have aunt to come get me. It took her 2 hours and I was only 20 minutes away. Went back to hospital. Got home went to get some water and my faucet just fell apart. ...I had had 7 reports due between 2 days..didn't happen but all shops were understanding and they eventually got done

A ticket?!

Sandra Sue Wrote:
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> A ticket?!


If he filled out a police report then he may of had too.

One time when a friend of mine had a minor
accident and the police came he handed us the form
to fill out and said if we fill it out then he doesn't have
to list who is at fault. If he fills it out then he has to
list who is at fault and give both parties tickets.

In my city the police do not respond to accidents that do not involve an injury. My car was over turned once on the border of a neighboring city. The middle of the street where it began was in the other city and my car got pushed into the city I live in and onto the sidewalk. My son was hanging upside down and sideways from the seatbelt but was not injured. The other city police passed by and stopped to see how we were but could not help. They told me at the time that no one would come from my city without an injury. We could not get a ticket or a police report. It was me against the other car and the two insurance companies. Had we been seriously blocking traffic the police would respond but for the obstruction part of it and not the accident part of it.

sandyf Wrote:
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> In my city the police do not respond to accidents
> that do not involve an injury. My car was over
> turned once on the border of a neighboring city.
> The middle of the street where it began was in the
> other city and my car got pushed into the city I
> live in and onto the sidewalk. My son was hanging
> upside down and sideways from the seatbelt but was
> not injured. The other city police passed by and
> stopped to see how we were but could not help.
> They told me at the time that no one would come
> from my city without an injury. We could not get a
> ticket or a police report. It was me against the
> other car and the two insurance companies. Had we
> been seriously blocking traffic the police would
> respond but for the obstruction part of it and not
> the accident part of it.


That as why I encourage everyone to get a dashcam and
put it in your car. They are widely popular overseas now
but have not caught on too much here in the states.
They are relatively inexpensive and if you are in an
accident it can show show who is at fault.

Dearest gypsy,

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you were reaching out to us initially with questions pertaining to lost communication as it related to filing impending reports while on the road and on the "down and out".

Chatter aside, please tell us how we can help you, if you want our help at all. If you want us to step aside, please let us know. Mostly, it's up to you.

I think it was more a self-pat on her back that she managed to submit 7 reports on her android, even though she had her truck stolen, etc. Then it became a soap opera on how bad the police has been treating her because she does not conform to societal norms, travels with the dogs, etc, but it appears it was more that she broke the laws of her state and the local police was trying to determine whether she was a criminal or what. Mind you, in a state that does not report anyone to ICE and bends backwards to accommodate homeless, alternative lifestyles, drug addicts, green smoking, people walk around in their nighties, etc. I feel for GM, but I also want the police to do their job.
A lot of drama, melodrama.

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