Felons Doing Mystery Shopping
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@LisaSTL wrote:
As stupid as I think this thread is, I have noticed nobody has brought up one simple item."
Most people are open-minded and appreciate the insights provided by
@jsalli @Lissymaree. Even if you don't.
Because of people like the two I mentioned, I believe this is one of the most interesting threads currently on this forum. Their experiences working with felons will be fascinating for most people in this forum.
No, no, na-ah. We are not all ex-somethings. Many more people are not all ex-somethings than are ex-somethings. It's a cute excuse to make the point, write a book, create a program, get a grant or two, but not true. And now, as if this industry hasn't become destitute enough, we now get to contend with prison volunteers who are recommending it to prisoners?!
Catnap, you said that you wouldn't want a thief, who you made into a felon, to be around you. Yet, you applaud these two postings in order to make your point against another poster's call on this thread. Topics such as these are created to pit people and their beliefs against each other because topics like these force us to choose a side.
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Catnap, you said that you wouldn't want a thief, who you made into a felon, to be around you. Yet, you applaud these two postings in order to make your point against another poster's call on this thread. Topics such as these are created to pit people and their beliefs against each other because topics like these force us to choose a side.
@jsalli wrote:
As a side note - one of the taglines of the group I volunteer for is - "we are all ex-somethings."
We do an exercise in prison where statements are read - incarcerated individuals on one side and volunteers on the other. If the statement is true, you step to the line. Anyways, one statement is "I've committed a crime in which I should've been arrested for, but wasn't." When that is read, every single person in that room is at the line. Think about it - ever smoked a little weed every now and then? Give some to a friend? Lie on your taxes a little? Or a lot? Did you ever get into a fight at a bar one night when you were younger? Many of these things are actually felonies but you were just never caught. So, it's a bit hard to judge others when I've done a few things I could be in prison for.
Sorry, just something I'm extremely passionate about. Truth be told - I actually recommended mystery shopping to one convicted felon about 2 months ago, and I'd do so again in a heartbeat. If they have the skills, organization, commitment, or whatever it takes for us to do this - then good for them. If it keeps them busy working v. going back to what they did before, I'm all for it.
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In my past life, before I retired, I spent 30 years as a counselor in the DOC. Because of the specialized reentry program I worked in I got to follow a number of th ex offenders into the community. Candidates were screened before they entered the program and there wetre tons of resources available when they got out, so the recividism rate was very low. I will say however that when a person is given a decent chance to succeed most ( but not all ) will rise to the challenge. Kudos to the entrepreneurs who are motives to give this business a shot
We are all ex-somethings, guess i fit into that thinking ,although I don't define myself as just that....ex-wives, why don't we get a thread, more of us are MSing than felons.....I personally don't give a catnip about them, this is an open industry, if an MSC hires them for less money, yes we will keep fees down.
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Live consciously....
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@spicy1 wrote:
Topics such as these are created to pit people and their beliefs against each other because topics like these force us to choose a side.
@spicy1 wrote:
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You say this like it is a bad thing. Disagreeing and debating is one of the best methods for humans to learn. I had a long discussion with @bgriffin about the merits or otherwise of doing mystery shopping full time. Through this discussion I learned some new information about how to operate full time as a mystery shopper.
In real life, it is often wise NOT to discuss certain topics with family members or your boss as it could create a fued and lead to relationship issues.
On an Internet forum, it doesn't really matter if certain people disagree with your views or hate you. They have no influence on your life in the real world.
Anyway we have a choice. We can participate in so-called 'controversial' threads. Just read the threads or not bother with them.
In real life, it is often wise NOT to discuss certain topics with family members or your boss as it could create a fued and lead to relationship issues.
On an Internet forum, it doesn't really matter if certain people disagree with your views or hate you. They have no influence on your life in the real world.
Anyway we have a choice. We can participate in so-called 'controversial' threads. Just read the threads or not bother with them.
I think you don't understand me at all. I am actually quite open-minded. Don't judge based on my opinion of a repeat offender troll.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
If it is believed that people can disagree and be controversial, then why bother telling people to leave? Why do that? It's the worst kind of shaming. Why scold people and tell people to leave because it is said that they personally attacked someone? I think these things are said because their responses are blatant. I think people think that they are different because they think that their attacks are not personal because of the way that they phrase them. But that's not true either.
Can we PLEASE stop with the rainbow fonts and memes?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
I believe that this post should be in the General Chat. This has nothing to do with us as mystery shoppers.
"Small minds will never solve big problems."
"Small minds will never solve big problems."
@LisaSTL wrote:
I think you don't understand me at all. I am actually quite open-minded. Don't judge based on my opinion of a repeat offender troll.
According to what orher members of this forum have said in private - the opinion you have of yourself is something quite different from the reality.
This is bait, untrue, unnecessary and beyond any extreme I have ever seen on this forum. Where are the mods?
Absolutely childish, but what do you expect?
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
Catnip, you obviously have never read any Dale Carnegie books. Please cease and desist while you are NOT ahead.
Furthermore, I can't imagine which forum members could possibly want to have any private conversations with you. Your bad manners and compulsion to attempt to stir up trouble and dissension in the forum really leaves a bad impression on most of us, and the following statement you made really could apply to you: "according to what other members of this forum have said (to me) in private - the opinion that YOU have of yourself is something quite different from reality."
Furthermore, I can't imagine which forum members could possibly want to have any private conversations with you. Your bad manners and compulsion to attempt to stir up trouble and dissension in the forum really leaves a bad impression on most of us, and the following statement you made really could apply to you: "according to what other members of this forum have said (to me) in private - the opinion that YOU have of yourself is something quite different from reality."
@Catnap wrote:
@LisaSTL wrote:
I think you don't understand me at all. I am actually quite open-minded. Don't judge based on my opinion of a repeat offender troll.
According to what orher members of this forum have said in private - the opinion you have of yourself is something quite different from the reality.
Gotta love the fake outrage. How many drinks so far today Jas? Waiting for the daily update of your alcohol consumption...
@JASFLALMT wrote:
Furthermore, I can't imagine which forum members could possibly want to have any private conversations with you.
Perhaps it was one of her previous usernames......
There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind
At the moment only demons come to mind
Unlike you, Catnip, it's a little early in the day for me to start drinking, and of course also unlike you, I don't get hammered "daily" 
And I would hardly call that outrage (yawn). Coming from someone like you who obvious is lacking in self-control, I guess it's understandable why you might think that of me.
And I would hardly call that outrage (yawn). Coming from someone like you who obvious is lacking in self-control, I guess it's understandable why you might think that of me.
Mods. please delete above post....assuming and calling one a drunk is not acceptable.....stirring the pot.
Live consciously....
Oh, I don't care, unlike that boorish person, I don't have self-esteem issues, LOL. I find it's feeble attempts at insulting me sad and pathetic.
Ah, having conversations with itself, interesting concept. Multiple personality disorder, anyone?
@bgriffin wrote:
@JASFLALMT wrote:
Furthermore, I can't imagine which forum members could possibly want to have any private conversations with you.
Perhaps it was one of her previous usernames......
It also depends on what you are hiring the person to do. For instance, I work in the public school system. Because our primary duty is to keep kids safe, we have to be extremely careful about our hires. Folks with histories of any sort of violence or drug dealing cannot be permitted... Though most folks who have served their time are now honest individuals, the risks (and liabilities) are too high.
The specific felony conviction and industry into which the person is hoping to be hired makes a difference. I might hire a reformed drug dealer as a bank teller, but not into a public school. However, I might hire somebody who had embezzled money into a public school, but not as a bank teller.
The specific felony conviction and industry into which the person is hoping to be hired makes a difference. I might hire a reformed drug dealer as a bank teller, but not into a public school. However, I might hire somebody who had embezzled money into a public school, but not as a bank teller.
@iShop123 wrote:
bgriff, it depends on the crime. My neighbors were in for selling drugs. It was a long time ago, and they've both been clean for years. I don't think I'd hire a chomo or someone who had embezzled or someone convicted of burglary. Property crimes have the highest recidividism rate (and murder has the lowest.) The chomo -- just eww.
Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.
Jas: Feel free to make abusive comments about me. But I don't think you should be making light of the serious problem of 'multiple personality disorder'. Your comments are akin to mocking the disabled.
Mental illness is a growing concern and charities and other organizations are trying to heighten awareness. When thoughtless people use such conditions as a form of abuse it just increases the stigma associated with such
conditions.
FYI: a brief outline of the condition.
Dissociative identity disorder (DID), also known as multiple personality disorder,[5] is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring personality states.[1] There is often trouble remembering certain events, beyond what would be explained by ordinary forgetfulness.[1] These states alternately show in a person's behavior.[1] Presentations, however, are variable.[3] Associated condition often include borderline personality disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, depression, substance misuse disorder, self-harm, or anxiety.[1][3]
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Mental illness is a growing concern and charities and other organizations are trying to heighten awareness. When thoughtless people use such conditions as a form of abuse it just increases the stigma associated with such
conditions.
FYI: a brief outline of the condition.
Dissociative identity disorder (DID), also known as multiple personality disorder,[5] is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring personality states.[1] There is often trouble remembering certain events, beyond what would be explained by ordinary forgetfulness.[1] These states alternately show in a person's behavior.[1] Presentations, however, are variable.[3] Associated condition often include borderline personality disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, depression, substance misuse disorder, self-harm, or anxiety.[1][3]
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Yes, I am aware of what it is, I have a degree in Health Information Technology Management and a Medical Transcription degree, so I had to study Psych 1, Pathophysiology, and many other medical-related courses when obtaining my degrees.
I am sorry for pointing out your affliction, I was just kidding around and didn't know you really had this problem. Thank you for sharing--I will try to be more sensitive in the future.
I am sorry for pointing out your affliction, I was just kidding around and didn't know you really had this problem. Thank you for sharing--I will try to be more sensitive in the future.
I think it is Shoptastic, based on the ability to grab ahold of a piece of information and expand on it breathlessly.....oh wait, that's Shot-et-al.
I thought you were referring to Sybil with the MPD and the likeness herein.
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