There is a new shop. Medicinal marijuana shops in NY. How is the MSC ever going to find people to do this?!? This is from the MSC with the five hour dining reports.

"Cannabis retail shop evaluation/need a medical marijuana card"

(I just found this ad "Book an online evaluation with a licensed doctor to qualify for your New York medical card. Medical card evaluations available today. Get qualified for safe alternative medicine. Licensed New York Doctors. Online Evaluation Process."

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My husband is a chemist in the industry. So everyone we meet, friends etc is interested about it and there are a Zillion people researching getting a card and a bunch that all ready have the card. Looks like (from your description) it’s the retail portion. So literally it’s similar to someone needing a license to drive to do a car shop, a motorcycle to do that shop etc.

Liz

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Can you say self-medicating? Is this what is happening, considering that the research does not yet indicate that large numbers of persons are in need of medical marijuana.

This is legal in CA, I get offers to do shop, and will not, just seems embarrassing.

I’m not sure what would be embarrassing. Literally everyone who shops in a retail outlet (a dispensary) would have the card in the above instance. True in some states there might be products available to those without a card and that’s just like going in any store.

@Traveliz wrote:

I’m not sure what would be embarrassing. Literally everyone who shops in a retail outlet (a dispensary) would have the card in the above instance. True in some states there might be products available to those without a card and that’s just like going in any store.

The subject matter is embarrassing to me.....if not to you, it's yours.

@Shop-et-al wrote:

Can you say self-medicating? Is this what is happening, considering that the research does not yet indicate that large numbers of persons are in need of medical marijuana.

While I don't have you blocked I do generally skip over your posts without reading them. On the rare occasion I read them I usually ignore them. I have to say though, with this one, that even the premise of your post is so far off base it's not even funny.

Because the federal government has refused to fund marijuana-related studies we really have no idea how effective it is or isn't. I've met many people from all walks of life who found it to be helpful for various ailments and I have no reason to doubt them. Since it's completely legal in my state I wouldn't be any more hesitant to do a marijuana shop than I would be to do a bar or liquor store shop. I know of at least one other MSC doing a marijuana-related shop right now and I'm sure there will be plenty more to come as the industry grows.

There are lots of NV and you don't even need a card. Will the MSC reimburse the doctor evaluation too?

To each their own. Some people don't drink and might find bar shops appalling, disgusting, or embarrassing. Other people say the same about fast food. If it's not for you just skip over it, no need to preach morality. You know you don't need to actually use the product right?

Medical Marijuana is good for pain, it has been tested in Israel and written about in length, my nephew (part of the 60's) is a part of it and making quite a bit of money in Santa Cruz, CA. I have Arthritis but not using it as we don't know the effects on the brain, and I need what's left of my brain....it's a no for me, just because..not against it for others, so far, not for me, including the shop as I'm not that good of an actress.



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I just looked on the job board. The pay is $30 and the reimbursement is $55 for what seems like a very easy survey (far fewer questions than what their dining surveys have). That seems like an appropriately generous payout for a shop location that only a limited number of people would be able to access. I've certainly seen many airport or military base shops that paid a lot less.

@NinS wrote:

I just looked on the job board. The pay is $30 and the reimbursement is $55 for what seems like a very easy survey (far fewer questions than what their dining surveys have). That seems like an appropriately generous payout for a shop location that only a limited number of people would be able to access. I've certainly seen many airport or military base shops that paid a lot less.

I can't see how they will have enough people in their shopper database to complete these shops. This is a very specific requirement that they are looking for, and they don't have the shopper pool that a company like MF has. I live in this area and do not know a single card carrying person.

My daughter uses medical mj for her seizures she has had great results.

@Niner wrote:

@NinS wrote:

I just looked on the job board. The pay is $30 and the reimbursement is $55 for what seems like a very easy survey (far fewer questions than what their dining surveys have). That seems like an appropriately generous payout for a shop location that only a limited number of people would be able to access. I've certainly seen many airport or military base shops that paid a lot less.

I can't see how they will have enough people in their shopper database to complete these shops. This is a very specific requirement that they are looking for, and they don't have the shopper pool that a company like MF has. I live in this area and do not know a single card carrying person.

I imagine they won't have trouble filling these shops when word spreads that someone can get paid and walk away with free "product." If I went out to my local bar tonight and told them about it half the bar would scramble to sign up. Most of them would probably do these shops with reimbursement only.

Would these people pass the criteria to submit reports though? (Get past the writing sample submission?)

I'm not arguing ethics or benefits of medical marijuana, just that I can't see this specific MSC getting possible candidates for this assignment.

I had to do a double take to even figure out what the issue was here - and I literally laughed out loud at your question about qualified candidates. In the Pacific NW - where it's been legal for quite a long time, they would have absolutely NO problem. I get that it's "newer" in other areas of the country - but here in Seattle we have glossy commercial billboards that show beautiful models in forests talking about smoking and personal centering. We have yoga studios combined with herbal enhancement studios, where I think you are supposed to practice high. We have very pricey luxury spas promoting CBD Massages... It's not my personal drug of choice, but I know plenty of people who are very well written, cultured, accomplished, educated, communicators that also smoke pot.

@Niner wrote:

Would these people pass the criteria to submit reports though? (Get past the writing sample submission?)

I'm not arguing ethics or benefits of medical marijuana, just that I can't see this specific MSC getting possible candidates for this assignment.

All of them would probably get passed the writing submission. If you have a high school diploma or GED you can probably get past the writing submission. Some of them might be motivated enough to get a medical card just for the shops. It's fairly easy to get a medical card and in many states the doctor appointment can be done online with guaranteed one hour delivery (or your money back).

There's no real barriers to entry for mystery shopping. No resume or interview required and most MSCs will "hire" you immediately after you fill out your profile. If MSC's can find enough 18-23 year olds to do compliance shops they shouldn't have trouble finding card holders.

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Yup. Self-medicating in some cases.


Today's marijuana per se and via current delivery systems is stronger than the stuff of last century. In those years, activists wanted to legalize a tamer substance. In recent years, governments have legalized something else.

The medical profession does not necessarily do harm when it permits medical marijuana. It just does not have a sound basis for doing so due to the dearth of established research information. Anecdotally, some people report relief. But is this due to pot, their role as paid or unpaid activists, and/or something else? This should be discovered.

Will today's strong marijuana be an effective replacement for opioids without causing additional addictions or harm? This might be an interesting question for future study.

Pretty sure the vast majority of people I know with cards could manage the writing submission. I know several with PHDs that do research and grant writing. Many medicinal marijuana products with THC screened out are products like creams and oils. The people with cards are like many other regular type people. I don’t see comments about people submitting bar shops.

@Traveliz wrote:

Pretty sure the vast majority of people I know with cards could manage the writing submission. I know several with PHDs that do research and grant writing. Many medicinal marijuana products with THC screened out are products like creams and oils. The people with cards are like many other regular type people. I don’t see comments about people submitting bar shops.

I'm once again not debating ethics of drugs vs alcohol. You have lots of people who would do bar shops, you don't need special cards. My point is that the population in NY who has a card is smaller, and this is the super annoying fine dining MSC, not everyone who would be able to shop many MSCs would shop this specific MSC. This is not for NYC either.

I do one bar audit and we check to make sure under age are carded since the restaurant is responsible for drunk drivers getting into accidents and can be sued. The bartender can cut them off, not serve them and has control.
Ridiculous to compare these two things. MADD (Mothers against Drunk Driving) stopped drunk driving, talk about one issue, don't throw another into the pot. Proven fact pot or cream can help several disease's, dose are controlled, needing a card is a good thing, personally I'm for anything Dr. controlled that helps people live fuller lives and helps with pain. I'm a 60's person and Haight Ashbury was the beginning and certainly not controlled.
scary time, I never did pot, went to work and stayed away from that district having grown up in San Francisco, I was always afraid. SEA, you don't know what your talking about, this has been in the making for years with studies done throughout the world, Israel and other European countries. This will be around a long time and plenty of younger kids will love to take the jobs.



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@Shop-et-al wrote:

Yup. Self-medicating in some cases.


Today's marijuana per se and via current delivery systems is stronger than the stuff of last century. In those years, activists wanted to legalize a tamer substance. In recent years, governments have legalized something else.

The medical profession does not necessarily do harm when it permits medical marijuana. It just does not have a sound basis for doing so due to the dearth of established research information. Anecdotally, some people report relief. But is this due to pot, their role as paid or unpaid activists, and/or something else? This should be discovered.

Will today's strong marijuana be an effective replacement for opioids without causing additional addictions or harm? This might be an interesting question for future study.

It is Fake News that it is stronger today then what it was in the old days when it mostly came from Columbia and Mexico. Finding people to do these mystery shops will be no harder then finding people to do a Sonic. I can see it now $5 pay and $35 reimbursement. Those shops would fly off the board.

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@Niner wrote:

Would these people pass the criteria to submit reports though? (Get past the writing sample submission?)

First, thanks for pointing out the shops! I'm so focused on hotel assignments I had totally missed them.

I'm with MickeyB in not understanding the issue of finding qualified candidates, in NYC as well as LA. In my professional circles, I am one of the few people in my workplace that does not have a medical card for dispensaries...though it's no longer needed in CA. My co-workers are cable writers and many do so professionally, so I don't think you can associate this particular drug with an inability to put together a coherent narrative.

I'm going to suggest it's probably just the social/professional circles you may be involved in where a majority of people don't have cards. In the creative arts, it's common...even in NYC. With legalization in CA for recreational purposes, it's considered polite to have your home bar stocked with these products for people who may not be drinking, so I see this as no different that a BevMo shop where I can stock up for parties!

@Sobrokeigot2dothis wrote:

It is Fake News that it is stronger today then what it was in the old days when it mostly came from Columbia and Mexico.

If by "Fake News" you mean it's the actual truth that ignorant people want to deny, then sure...consider that to "Fake News" as well.

@Sobrokeigot2dothis wrote:

It is Fake News that it is stronger today then what it was in the old days when it mostly came from Columbia and Mexico. Finding people to do these mystery shops will be no harder then finding people to do a Sonic. I can see it now $5 pay and $35 reimbursement. Those shops would fly off the board.

I did one of these shops, (Different Company, and retail marijuana not medical) Just like any other retail shop. Easy visit, easy report. Won't do another likely as all the products were expensive and it paid a flat rate. I am not interested enough in the product.

The sales person was explaining to a former user that today's products are indeed stronger and advising to start with a small amount.

The jobs are not flying off the board.

@prince wrote:

The jobs are not flying off the board.

The ones that the OP was discussing offer a perfectly acceptable reimbursement and decent fee...and most in my area have been assigned for this month. I'm blaming slow scheduling and the fact that they assignments are hard to find as the reason they are not 100% assigned.

Whatever pays enough will always have takers...MFJ are you listening....lol

They'll have no problem filling the shops. Plenty of people (including working professionals, highly educated people) have medical marijuana cards these days, especially in a more liberal state like NY. It's not that hard to get a medical marijuana card...

This thread reminds me of the "Reefer Madness" educational film from the 50's. The nice thing aboul legal marijuana is that you can know exactly how much of a dose you're taking and what is in it, so there's no comparison to someone taking a hit off a mystery joint getting passed around at a party in the 70's. Some people are indeed taking much larger doses of stronger stuff and others are microdosing, and a shop with good customer service can help patients determine what works for them. When CO first legalized pot a few years back a NY Times columnist infamously wrote about buying and eating an entire chocolate bar at once. Although many correctly made fun of her, a shop with better customer service would have discovered that she was a new user and advised her to start with a square (if that). Some of the medical and recreational users I know include doctors, prominent civic leaders and a fellow at the most famous educational instiution in the world, and I think their future career prospects are just fine. I've seen more than one shopper on here recount writing their reports while having a glass of wine and no one seemed worried their writing was going to be compromised or not usable. As far as the shopping pool goes, today I got an email seeking shoppers who are public school teachers who can shop a retirement consultant who specializes in the state teacher retirement fund. There are almost exactly as many teachers in my state as there are medical marijuana card holders. I'm sorry I can't do the retirement shop because both the pay and MSC are excellent, but I don't feel a need to come on this board and freak out because I can't imagine how the MSC will ever find shoppers for the job.

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@NinS wrote:

I've seen more than one shopper on here recount writing their reports while having a glass of wine and no one seemed worried their writing was going to be compromised or not usable.

As someone who freely admits to drinking wine while on assignments...I can assure you I would never attempt a dispensary (or any other) shop, nor reporting on it, while high. I am paranoid enough about screwing shops up when I have had one or two drinks. The shop requires the purchase of a product, not consumption of it during the assignment!

@prince wrote:

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I did one of these shops, (Different Company, and retail marijuana not medical) Just like any other retail shop. Easy visit, easy report. Won't do another likely as all the products were expensive and it paid a flat rate. I am not interested enough in the product.

The sales person was explaining to a former user that today's products are indeed stronger and advising to start with a small amount.

The person that is selling it is going to try to hype it up as powerful and strong. This person is a salesman and their opinion is jaded and one sided. Then you have the law enforcement selling the fact that it is stronger then ever before so it looks like their job is that much more important to stop it. Then you have the anti drug red necks who want to sell the story that it is more stronger and dangerous then ever before so it must be stopped. All of these parties are manufacturers of FAKE NEWS designed to further their own point of views and line their pockets. CNN and FOX are not the only purveyors of Fake News. Our society is full of people and organizations selling stories of all types. We are a very dishonest society.

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