@Jack in CO wrote:
@jrossetti wrote:
================================================================================@Jack in CO wrote:
|@jrossetti wrote:
Yea, she'll screw over a shopper at any time she can make money. She created her own editing company. Convinced one of the company's she does edit work to drop the shop fee from $65 to $60 so that she can input the shop results. But with the new system from the MSC, the shopper takes more time with the report then before. So, she took ~$5/shop from shoppers right into her pocket.
To be fair, as a shopper, I advocated this to several companies, including Shadow Agency and a few others.
For a full time shopper they can make more money in less time with this method. Every minute I dont have
to do a report, I get to do more shops. (but I proposed it as the shopper having to do absolutely nothing in
terms of report except maybe a date and time and name)
Ive been paying out of pocket for a virtual aid for this same service and have been telling companies they
should offer this to shoppers. But again, this relies on not having to spend that time doing reports or clicking
through and checking boxes and crap.
What the Heck?!? You are advocating for MSC to lower fees to shoppers? Why the heck do that? It's hard enough to make a good income doing this work without a irresponsible shopper trying to decrease shopper fees for everyone else. We as shoppers should try and get HIGHER fees for each shop for doing this work from MSC not LESS. The constraint isn't video shop reports, those are just simple, a couple minute reports. They don't keep any good video shopper from maximizing time on the road. The only constraint is the hours the stores are open. I can do any of those reports in just a few minutes each after checking into the hotel at night or in the morning before leaving for the next day's shops. Those reports are NOT keeping me from maximizing my time in the stores.
PLEASE don't advocate for lower shop fees for me I'll happily do a video report for an extra $5/shop.
I would encourage you to take things in context. I pay a virtual aid well under 5 dollars a shop, and at the time it was about their longer apartment reports. if you had someone who would do 30 minutes of report for you for 2.50 would you pay that or would you work for $5 an hour? Because that's more in line with the proposal I was giving as I was attempting to have them utilize an overseas virtual aid, not a local company who would want american wages.
For $5 an hour I get someone doing 60 minutes of report time, and that provides me with 60 minutes of shopping time. I can do just about ANY mystery shop in that 60 minutes and make more than I'm paying the virtual aid.
What Shadow did is more akin to paying someone 30-40 bucks an hour for an hour of work and it's not even close to what I was proposing. I'm a shopper, why the heck would I propose something that would make me less money?
Again, I'm not cutting short my shop time to fill out reports and I doubt anyone else is. Stop trying to get lower fees per shop for shoppers.[/quote]
I'll agree to stop doing what im already not doing, if you agree to stop accusing me of doing what im not doing?
Take things in context, please.
When I have 20 shops to do in a day I have the option of doing the report immediately after leaving, or i can do the report when I get to the hotel that night and have a stack of 20 reports to do. Now I'm not sure what your memory is like, but if I have even 3 shops to do at once I dont recall the details for each question and have to get all of that information off of the video. Watching videos and doing reports at the same time is almost like doing the entire shop twice. That takes up a lot of time.
If you have to spend 7 minutes on a report if you do it right away, that same report may take me 15-20 minutes if I do it at night or a later date because I have to use the video. 7 minutes times 20 reports is 140 minutes. that's over two hours of reports being done after each shop, or 3 or 4 hours of reports later, or it can be outsourced for almost no time. It's simple math.
If I do it right away it's much faster as it's still fresh, it takes less time than doing it later, and it eats into time I could be moving to the next location. With that knowledge, I could also send the video and subjective info to my virtual aid which is where the idea came from. Pay us 2 or 3 bucks less for a 20-30 minute report assignment and use a virtual aid you have trained instead. That was my proposal. Cutting a shop with a report that would take you 20-30 minutes and reducing pay by 2 or 3 dollars.
Even if you aren't cutting short shop time, do you really mean to tell me its okay if you get paid $5 for an hour worth of reports? Because if this is the case, I have a lot of work I can give you and you wont even have to do any reports! I'll keep you busy all day every day for five bucks an hour. Thats how much I pay my Filipino aid who does some of my reports.
I do want to point out there are absolutely shoppers who have to do reports during hours that they could be shopping. Im not entirely sure why you think no one does reports that cut into shop time. It's practically a necessity if youre at a high volume of shops per day.
Most of the shoppers I know personally who make 4,5, 6 grand a month do a fair amount of reports during shopping hours because of the negative consequences of doing them later often outweigh losing a bit of time in between shops.
If you are willing to work for $5 an hour however then there is nothing I can say that will convince you of what I am trying to tell you because we simply do not place the same value on our time and that's okay too.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2020 03:09AM by jrossetti.