Same scheduler, same dance, month after month after month....What would you do?
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Schedulers often do not have the authority to offer bonuses until late in the month, and they sometimes are limited to the amount they can offer. If that is the case with this scheduler, it would benefit both you and her for her to just tell you. It is pointless to argue about it.
I would not do another shop for her when it would not be sufficiently profitable for me.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2020 04:01AM by BusyBeeBuzzBuzzBuzz.
I would not do another shop for her when it would not be sufficiently profitable for me.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2020 04:01AM by BusyBeeBuzzBuzzBuzz.
Easy. Just don't do the shop. And then next round you might get the $25 no argument.
Simply ignore unless it is at a profitable price for you. Once the location does not get done for a cycle or two you now have the upper hand. Then you can try to agree to automatic monthly assignment at $25 or $30 or get a higher deadline price. It is also possible the shop could end up being lost by the msc and end up at a different msc. Sometimes the scheduler has their hands tied other times they are just to stupid to deal with. I say simply make your offer beginning of month for $25 when it fits into route. If declines and comes back late in month at deadline tell her its $x and I would make her pay. Personally I'd ask $100 assuming it profitable for me. Don't gouge but make her pay some. Just my 2 cents.
Shopping Western NY, Northeast and Central PA, and parts of Ohio and West Virginia. Have car will travel anywhere if the monies right.
If she's made it clear she can't pay enough ($25) early in the month so you can work the shops into your routes, I'd stop asking. When she contacts you late in the month to offer $65, I would say no if it isn't enough for you to make money. Late in the month, set the price and let her take it or leave it. Personally, making a 180-mile round trip for $65 sounds like a very irritating way to earn $65 gross, after which you will pay taxes and deduct your travel expenses. At least 3 hours driving time, gas/auto costs, shop time, report time. What does that net out to you?
Like I said in my initial post, that trip contributes NOTHING to my bottom line.
@ceasesmith wrote:
And I just picked up two of the shops for today at $40 each.
Hopefully, they are local (under 40 miles away).
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I would request the $25 and not offer any more discussion about it.
I would request a profitable amount at the end of the month. She can take it or leave it, I would be done with discussions.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2020 08:49AM by prince.
I would request a profitable amount at the end of the month. She can take it or leave it, I would be done with discussions.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2020 08:49AM by prince.
Wait, did you mean you took the shop for $65 without profit, because you didn't/couldn't route anything that late in the month? Was it a favor for her at that point? I'm probably missing something.@ceasesmith wrote:
It really ends up badly for her and worse for me, as driving round trip 180 miles for one $65 shop does virtually nothing for my bottom line profitability.
Yes, I did the $65 shop. It was NOT profitable. Fortunately, I picked up another $50 shop, so it wasn't a total loss. But it's rare to get up at 7 AM and find a $50 shop you can do that very day -- very rare. I normally plan routes days, if not weeks, in advance. And I prep in advance. I hate prepping last minute!
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(It's 25 years old, and has no tech distractions, rotflmfao! )
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cease, can you change the dates of your profitable shops to align with the nonprofitable shops?
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You're better off sitting at home. It costs you more to shop than if you sit at home.
It's a matter of time before you drive this "new to you" car into the ground.
It's a matter of time before you drive this "new to you" car into the ground.
The way I understand it, at least for some MSC's, the scheduler has no way to offer more than the system will allow them to, until the drop dead date approaches.
One of my schedulers confided on the phone to me once that she would love to offer me $XX for a job we were discussing, just to get it off her board. But, she had a sticky on the job board from her boss saying that NO BONUSES could be considered till a certain time, so stop bugging him!
While many projects get gobbled up at base rate the minute they come up, some will sit for a week till the first cycle of bonuses come up, which gets more gobbled up. You'd think that the companies would recognize the middle of nowhere gigs that go to maximum bonus each month and just let those get approved early, but the computer has no logic, nor sympathy.
One of my schedulers confided on the phone to me once that she would love to offer me $XX for a job we were discussing, just to get it off her board. But, she had a sticky on the job board from her boss saying that NO BONUSES could be considered till a certain time, so stop bugging him!
While many projects get gobbled up at base rate the minute they come up, some will sit for a week till the first cycle of bonuses come up, which gets more gobbled up. You'd think that the companies would recognize the middle of nowhere gigs that go to maximum bonus each month and just let those get approved early, but the computer has no logic, nor sympathy.
There's always a chance that someone will be passing by and will pick up the hard to fill shops for no bonus, so it's probably worth it for them to wait until they are desperate. These are super easy shops.
The MSCs do have the right to try to pay as little as possible - whether we like it or not.
I just wonder if it affects client data? If all the undesirable locations (whether from fee or distance) only get taken at high bonus rates late into a month, does that warp their data findings in any significant way?
Say, Subway does shops across America. They get data back from 90% of their locations every week. But for 10% of locations, they get data back all at the end of the month, b/c no one wants to do those shops. Does that mess with their analytics (not having an apples-to-apples comparison maybe)?
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I just wonder if it affects client data? If all the undesirable locations (whether from fee or distance) only get taken at high bonus rates late into a month, does that warp their data findings in any significant way?
Say, Subway does shops across America. They get data back from 90% of their locations every week. But for 10% of locations, they get data back all at the end of the month, b/c no one wants to do those shops. Does that mess with their analytics (not having an apples-to-apples comparison maybe)?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2020 07:19PM by shoptastic.
It's a gamble if people don't take it earlier and even a high bonus at month's end doesn't entice anyone, right?@mjt9598 wrote:
There's always a chance that someone will be passing by and will pick up the hard to fill shops for no bonus, so it's probably worth it for them to wait until they are desperate. These are super easy shops.
Then, they'd have to explain to the client why no data was given?
An MSC I sometimes shop for has low pay and high reimbursements. I will ask in the beginning of the month if they can offer a bonus if I do x number of shops. I am always told they never, ever give bonuses on these shops. Then the end of the month comes and the bonus is almost triple the fee.
@JW wrote:
The way I understand it, at least for some MSC's, the scheduler has no way to offer more than the system will allow them to, until the drop dead date approaches.
One of my schedulers confided on the phone to me once that she would love to offer me $XX for a job we were discussing, just to get it off her board. But, she had a sticky on the job board from her boss saying that NO BONUSES could be considered till a certain time, so stop bugging him!
While many projects get gobbled up at base rate the minute they come up, some will sit for a week till the first cycle of bonuses come up, which gets more gobbled up. You'd think that the companies would recognize the middle of nowhere gigs that go to maximum bonus each month and just let those get approved early, but the computer has no logic, nor sympathy.
"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
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