Question about gas station shops and the receipt

If you're doing a gas station shop, you pull up to a pump where another car had just left. They left their receipt at the pump. What's to stop you from using their receipt? I'm asking for a friend, who had the idea.

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If you don't have the integrity to pass on it, you are in the wrong business.
My question is, if I go to a gas station with a friend. They buy gas, while I watch, they hand me the receipt. What difference does it make who pays for the gas? I'm there to make sure the pump works.
When I first started gas stattion shops I had the same idea. One problem was I never found a receipt where another card had "just left." The times were always off by a considerable amount. On top of that, the receipts were usually for large amounts of gas and had different credit card numbers -- a dead giveaway if the MSC ever questoned it. I gave up on the idea. Really not worth it considering gas was something I had to buy anyways, so using another receipt really had no net benefit to me.

On the second question, I suppose watching a friend to confirm the pump and printer work would meet those requirements, and in practice would do no harm. But I always felt the buying of the gas was also part of the cover, especially when it was necessary to ask for a restroom key as a legit customer.
People do not have to be a customer to use the restroom.
Sadly many of these gas station shops barely cover the cost of gas. Some I will not even touch because they only pay $10 to do them at night.
@johnb974 wrote:

If you're doing a gas station shop, you pull up to a pump where another car had just left. They left their receipt at the pump. What's to stop you from using their receipt? I'm asking for a friend, who had the idea.
Ethics. Integrity. Honesty. I have pulled up to a pump with a receipt hanging from the printer on several occasions. I pull the previous customer's receipt from the dispenser and throw it in the trash.
@johnb974 wrote:

My question is, if I go to a gas station with a friend. They buy gas, while I watch, they hand me the receipt. What difference does it make who pays for the gas? I'm there to make sure the pump works.
This is not the same question, but the previous answers are still relative.
1. The friend is not being paid to perform the evaluation - you are.
2. The clients, as well as the shop guidelines, are confidential property of each MSC. Both are protected under each MSC's ICA (one reason we cannot name clients and MSC's in the same thread on the forum).
3. If the guidelines do not specifically state that you are allowed to bring someone with you, another person should not know the location where you are performing an audit.
Most of the shops are part mystery shop and part OPEN audit. You have to reveal yourself to them.
My thought is, who pays for the gas is not part of the mystery shopping assignment. Why should they care who pays, as long as the shop gets done and you follow the guidelines.
@johnb974 wrote:

My thought is, who pays for the gas is not part of the mystery shopping assignment. Why should they care who pays, as long as the shop gets done and you follow the guidelines.
And the guidelines state that the shopper pays for the gas. They tell you to drive up, pump the gas and pay. They're not saying, drive up, and find some rando to pump your gas and pay for it. Of course it matters who pays for the gas since they are reimbursing you for part of it. If you don't pay, then you shouldn't get that reimbursement. Also, some gas station shops want to know how quickly the gas flowed within a certain number of seconds, so how are you going to know how it's flowing if you're not there with the pump in your hand?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2022 07:24AM by shopnyc.
@johnb974 wrote:

My question is, if I go to a gas station with a friend. They buy gas, while I watch, they hand me the receipt. What difference does it make who pays for the gas? I'm there to make sure the pump works.

Almost all gas shops specify that the shopper is to shop ALONE. The theoretical "friend" should not even be there.
@shopnyc wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

My thought is, who pays for the gas is not part of the mystery shopping assignment. Why should they care who pays, as long as the shop gets done and you follow the guidelines.
And the guidelines state that the shopper pays for the gas. They tell you to drive up, pump the gas and pay. They're not saying, drive up, and find some rando to pump your gas and pay for it. Of course it matters who pays for the gas since they are reimbursing you for part of it. If you don't pay, then you shouldn't get that reimbursement. Also, some gas station shops want to know how quickly the gas flowed within a certain number of seconds, so how are you going to know how it's flowing if you're not there with the pump in your hand?

How can they tell how much gas is flowing from looking at a receipt?
@sestrahelena wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

My question is, if I go to a gas station with a friend. They buy gas, while I watch, they hand me the receipt. What difference does it make who pays for the gas? I'm there to make sure the pump works.

Almost all gas shops specify that the shopper is to shop ALONE. The theoretical "friend" should not even be there.

Never had a gas station shop tell you to go alone.
It would be found in the instructions.

Also, gas receipts show time, payment method, price per gallon, gallons pumped, ect. You never noticed?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2022 11:20AM by sestrahelena.
My friend wanted me to post that you should stop looking for ways to cheat the system. Integrity is important, and if clients see that shoppers don't have integrity, they cancel MS programs. They cancel MS programs, we lose opportunities to make money.
@sestrahelena wrote:

It would be found in the instructions.

Also, gas receipts show time, payment method, price per gallon, gallons pumped, ect. You never noticed?

It shows you the time you started pumping, not when you stopped.
@johnb974 wrote:

How can they tell how much gas is flowing from looking at a receipt?
It's not how much is flowing; it's how fast. You look at the numbers on the pump and count.
@shopnyc wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

How can they tell how much gas is flowing from looking at a receipt?
It's not how much is flowing; it's how fast. You look at the numbers on the pump and count.

You're not asked to look at the pump and count. You're not asked to measure the flow rate. They just want proof the pump works and prints a receipt.
@johnb974 wrote:

You're not asked to look at the pump and count. You're not asked to measure the flow rate. They just want proof the pump works and prints a receipt.
I didn't say every gas station shop asks for that. However, some must, because that's what I had to do recently. The instructions were to use a stop watch or the timer on my phone to check how long it takes to pump one gallon of gas. Whether you believe me or not doesn't change the fact that that's what the client wanted.

You can argue your point all day long when people here tell you the many reasons why you shouldn't be dishonest. But you'll still be wrong and you'll still be trying to justify something that isn't allowed.
There have been several times that I have gotten gas outside (Non-shops) and I would pre pay with my debit card..

After I would get gas, it would tell me that I need to go inside and get the receipt.

UGH!!!! I hate when that happens...

Yes, I know on some shops you have go inside and pay for your gas.

If I wanted to go inside and pay, I would click the pay inside button or pay with cash button..
Supposedly, the MSC can view site video. That could be a problem if the receipt you used showed an earlier time that when you were at the pump.
OTOH, there have been a few times when my car was not at the dispenser when I've purchased gas for someone.
The last time was this past summer when a girl came up to me tearfully asking for a dollar or 2. She said that her card had been declined. Since, I had not purchased any fuel yet, I told her I would buy $5 worth for her. I put my card in the pump she was parked at and put $5 worth into her car.
So technically, I did not purchase the gas for myself, nor was my own vehicle in that pump slot - the video would show that. But I did pay for the gas. I figure it is no more different that when I give someone the package of crackers or whatever I purchased inside the site's shop.
I remember the stories I was told by my grandparents of the times of the Great Depression when folks, out of work or homeless knocking on the farmhouse door asking for money or whatever. They would get no money, but would get a meal and/or a place to sleep for the night (usually the barn).
So, I follow the same practice - no money, but maybe something to eat, $5 in gas.
Apologies in advance for going somewhat off topic.
I did 14 of these over the last few days. EVERY one of them asked for flow rate.
Ok. We're talking about different projects. One does ask if gas flowed at a certain rate but somehiw the topic got switched to that from the original question which was about using someone else's receipt.
It’s a bad habit to get into, and you’re going to be busted sooner or later by the MSC.
@French Farmer wrote:

Supposedly, the MSC can view site video. That could be a problem if the receipt you used showed an earlier time that when you were at the pump.
OTOH, there have been a few times when my car was not at the dispenser when I've purchased gas for someone.
The last time was this past summer when a girl came up to me tearfully asking for a dollar or 2. She said that her card had been declined. Since, I had not purchased any fuel yet, I told her I would buy $5 worth for her. I put my card in the pump she was parked at and put $5 worth into her car.
So technically, I did not purchase the gas for myself, nor was my own vehicle in that pump slot - the video would show that. But I did pay for the gas. I figure it is no more different that when I give someone the package of crackers or whatever I purchased inside the site's shop.
I remember the stories I was told by my grandparents of the times of the Great Depression when folks, out of work or homeless knocking on the farmhouse door asking for money or whatever. They would get no money, but would get a meal and/or a place to sleep for the night (usually the barn).
So, I follow the same practice - no money, but maybe something to eat, $5 in gas.
Apologies in advance for going somewhat off topic.

It's like going thru the drive thru of a fast food restaurant. You have a friend going too. They're going there anyway. They place the order and give you the receipt, just helping you out.
@johnb974 wrote:

People do not have to be a customer to use the restroom.

A minor point, but many stations have signs like, "No public restrooms. Restrooms for [gas brand] customers only." Even without the sign, if they refuse to give me a key to a locked restroom before the reveal, I want to ding them without them having the excuse I didn't pump gas.
@mystery2me wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

People do not have to be a customer to use the restroom.

A minor point, but many stations have signs like, "No public restrooms. Restrooms for [gas brand] customers only." Even without the sign, if they refuse to give me a key to a locked restroom before the reveal, I want to ding them without them having the excuse I didn't pump gas.

If you knew the number of needles, puddles of vomit, and OD victims inside locking gas station restrooms these days, you wouldn’t even consider dinging them. Bad things happen inside those restrooms, and the low-wage employees are the ones who have to deal with them.
Here's an idea on the gas station shops. Drive up there with a 2 or 5 gallon gas can. Pump the gas in the can. Do the shop, take the gas home and your friend pays you all or half for the gas.
There are gas station shops where you are supposed to time the flow rate of 1 gallon of gas. And there are different shops where you simply pump some gas and get reimbursed for a certain amount to verify that the pump and credit card machine works. They are two different shops for different gas station brands.

Some of the stations require that you pump the gas into a vehicle, and not a gas can. But ZERO shops require that you use your own vehicle, or even your own personal credit or debit card. And the amount of gasoline you pump is none of the MSC's concern, but you will only be reimbursed for the fixed amount the shop requires. Some are 1 gallon, some are 2 gallons, some say up to $2, $5 or $7. But no one is keeping you from pumping more nor do they care who pays for it. But for most of the shops you are supposed to be working alone. And the editors do NOT have access to your profile, so they can't see a picture of you or know what vehicle you drive. And the MSC's do not and should not have your credit card information.

But, as some folks have already said, Integrity is key. If you have none, you should not be in this business. Gaming the system shows a lack of integrity.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2022 10:18PM by Morledzep.
@Morledzep wrote:

There are gas station shops where you are supposed to time the flow rate of 1 gallon of gas. And there are different shops where you simply pump some gas and get reimbursed for a certain amount to verify that the pump and credit card machine works. They are two different shops for different gas station brands.

Some of the stations require that you pump the gas into a vehicle, and not a gas can. But ZERO shops require that you use your own vehicle, or even your own personal credit or debit card. And the amount of gasoline you pump is none of the MSC's concern, but you will only be reimbursed for the fixed amount the shop requires. Some are 1 gallon, some are 2 gallons, some say up to $2, $5 or $7. But no one is keeping you from pumping more nor do they care who pays for it. But for most of the shops you are supposed to be working alone. And the editors do NOT have access to your profile, so they can't see a picture of you or know what vehicle you drive. And the MSC's do not and should not have your credit card information.

I agree with this. I could be at home, empty out part of my gas tank, sell it to a friend at half off, than do the shop. I just increased my profits by 50%. I could do a take out shop. Tell a friend I will buy them lunch at 50% off. They pay me 1/2 the cost of the meal. I do the shop alone and get full pay for the shop. Again, I increased my profits by 50%.
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