Question about gas station shops and the receipt

@johnb974 wrote:

I agree with this. I could be at home, empty out part of my gas tank, sell it to a friend at half off, than do the shop. I just increased my profits by 50%. I could do a take out shop. Tell a friend I will buy them lunch at 50% off. They pay me 1/2 the cost of the meal. I do the shop alone and get full pay for the shop. Again, I increased my profits by 50%.

You missed, or dismissed, what I said about integrity. And after seeing many of your posts about trying to get over on the MSC's, I believe that you have none. Folks like you are why MSCs threaten us with video survellance all of the time.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2022 10:32PM by Morledzep.

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@Morledzep wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

I agree with this. I could be at home, empty out part of my gas tank, sell it to a friend at half off, than do the shop. I just increased my profits by 50%. I could do a take out shop. Tell a friend I will buy them lunch at 50% off. They pay me 1/2 the cost of the meal. I do the shop alone and get full pay for the shop. Again, I increased my profits by 50%.

You missed, or dismissed, what I said about integrity. And after seeing many of your posts about trying to get over on the MSC's, I believe that you have none. Folks like you are why MSCs threaten us with video survellance all of the time.

Once the product is in your tank, it's your's. It has nothing to do with integrity. I could drive a friend's car to the gas station and make the same deal with the friend. He pays half for the first couple of gallons. I get paid for the gallons I put in. Nothing wrong with that. There's no cheating going on.
There are restaurant shops that require you to bring one other person with you and they will pay for the full meal. You can agree with the friend to split the bill. Nothing wrong with that. You've increased your profit by 50%. How you split the bill has nothing to do with the MSC.
@sestrahelena wrote:

Ok. We're talking about different projects. One does ask if gas flowed at a certain rate but somehiw the topic got switched to that from the original question which was about using someone else's receipt.
No, it didn't switch to a different topic, actually. I brought up that point because one would have to time the flow rate and, therefore, that is one other reason why you would need to pump the gas yourself. And the OP never stated the project to which he was referring. It seemed, to me at least, to be about all gas station shops in general.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2022 11:03PM by shopnyc.
@ColoKate63 wrote:

@mystery2me wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

People do not have to be a customer to use the restroom.

A minor point, but many stations have signs like, "No public restrooms. Restrooms for [gas brand] customers only." Even without the sign, if they refuse to give me a key to a locked restroom before the reveal, I want to ding them without them having the excuse I didn't pump gas.

If you knew the number of needles, puddles of vomit, and OD victims inside locking gas station restrooms these days, you wouldn’t even consider dinging them. Bad things happen inside those restrooms, and the low-wage employees are the ones who have to deal with them.

I've probably checked close to 10,000 restrooms and have never seen any of those, I'm sure it exists, but I know the number is not high.. And it has nothing to do with employees. If the station has no restroom for customers, it has no restroom for customers.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2022 11:28PM by mystery2me.
@mystery2me wrote:

@ColoKate63 wrote:

@mystery2me wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

People do not have to be a customer to use the restroom.

A minor point, but many stations have signs like, "No public restrooms. Restrooms for [gas brand] customers only." Even without the sign, if they refuse to give me a key to a locked restroom before the reveal, I want to ding them without them having the excuse I didn't pump gas.

If you knew the number of needles, puddles of vomit, and OD victims inside locking gas station restrooms these days, you wouldn’t even consider dinging them. Bad things happen inside those restrooms, and the low-wage employees are the ones who have to deal with them.

I've probably checked close to 10,000 restrooms and have never seen any of those, I'm sure it exists, but I know the number is not high.. And it has nothing to do with employees. If the station has no restroom for customers, it has no restroom for customers.

Some gas stations have signs up for a closed restroom to keep the homeless out. They will allow customers to use it, but you have to ask.
The key question to me is, why don't you want the free gas? I've occasionally picked up too many and had to pump less than the full reimbursement, but in this industry, I need to drive constantly. I will pick up the odd gas station simply for the gas.
First, let your conscious be the judge of how you go about your business. Second, highly recommend whatever you choose to do outside the scope of the shop or audit to keep it to yourself vs. broadcasting in a open forum where lots of schedulers pop in. You use your name so may not be so hard for a MSC to figure out who you are to deactivate your account.

While you can fill a gas can, nobody is likely to give you advice on how to sell the gas after purchased, or a burger or fries.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/17/2022 04:51PM by Zek.
@Zek wrote:

First, let your conscious be the judge of how you go about your business. Second, highly recommend whatever you choose to do outside the scope of the shop or audit to keep it to yourself vs. broadcasting in a open forum where lots of schedulers pop in. You use your name so may not be so hard for a MSC to figure out who you are to deactivate your account.

While you can fill a gas can, nobody is going to give you advice on how to sell the gas after purchased, or a burger or fries.

You can stay within the guidelines and make more profits. Too much fear going on, people scaring others from increasing their profits. I want people to increase their profits.
@Curtzey wrote:

The key question to me is, why don't you want the free gas? I've occasionally picked up too many and had to pump less than the full reimbursement, but in this industry, I need to drive constantly. I will pick up the odd gas station simply for the gas.

I get the free gas, but once I have the gas and paid for it, it's mine to do with as I please. As one poster here said, I could use a friend's car for the shop and split the cost of the gas with them. It may be only 2 or 3 gallons, but many people are struggling to get buy. Getting 2 or 3 gallons at half the price would make them happy.
To me, it would seem the issue would be, does your friend know you are being reimbursed for HIS purchase? If he/she is okay with that and you are allowed to bring someone with you, then, as long as you are making all the observations you are supposed to, okay. I personally wouldn't do it that way, however. I have had, on two occasions, put gas in someone else's vehicle. But, I paid. The OP keeps talking about maximizing his profits.
But, at the expense of friends or family? That would be a no-go for me.
@kathygry wrote:

To me, it would seem the issue would be, does your friend know you are being reimbursed for HIS purchase? If he/she is okay with that and you are allowed to bring someone with you, then, as long as you are making all the observations you are supposed to, okay. I personally wouldn't do it that way, however. I have had, on two occasions, put gas in someone else's vehicle. But, I paid. The OP keeps talking about maximizing his profits.
But, at the expense of friends or family? That would be a no-go for me.

They are getting the gas at half off. Who would not accept that.
No fear or intent to scare any shopper. But lets face the facts. You originally asked about using a receipt left at a pump vs. making the required gas purchase.

Maybe the bigger question is how you would you report the additional income to the IRS ?

@johnb974 wrote:

@Zek wrote:

First, let your conscious be the judge of how you go about your business. Second, highly recommend whatever you choose to do outside the scope of the shop or audit to keep it to yourself vs. broadcasting in a open forum where lots of schedulers pop in. You use your name so may not be so hard for a MSC to figure out who you are to deactivate your account.

While you can fill a gas can, nobody is going to give you advice on how to sell the gas after purchased, or a burger or fries.

You can stay within the guidelines and make more profits. Too much fear going on, people scaring others from increasing their profits. I want people to increase their profits.
This idea would work great for pizza shops. Tell the friend you can get a pizza for half off. They pay half the cost of the pizza and give them the pizza. The MSC's don't care who pays for the pizza and your friend gets half off, you increase your profits by 50%
@johnb974 wrote:

There are restaurant shops that require you to bring one other person with you and they will pay for the full meal. You can agree with the friend to split the bill. Nothing wrong with that. You've increased your profit by 50%. How you split the bill has nothing to do with the MSC.

So now you're just being a crappy friend.
@KA047 wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

There are restaurant shops that require you to bring one other person with you and they will pay for the full meal. You can agree with the friend to split the bill. Nothing wrong with that. You've increased your profit by 50%. How you split the bill has nothing to do with the MSC.

So now you're just being a crappy friend.

You can agree with the friend to split the bill.....how is that being a crappy friend?
This conversation has turned ridiculous now.
The inside purchase has to be timed before the outside purchase.
@Lstockwell wrote:

The inside purchase has to be timed before the outside purchase.

You have to pump your gas first before making the inside purchase.
The inside purchase has to be timed before the outside purchase.
I am absolutely certain that you would be keeping track of the money you receive from your friend and reporting it to the IRS as income. You can't be reimbursed twice, so this is clearly income. So is the money you receive when you sell the used chair you pick up for free when driving around the neighborhood.
@johnb974 wrote:

This idea would work great for pizza shops. Tell the friend you can get a pizza for half off. They pay half the cost of the pizza and give them the pizza. The MSC's don't care who pays for the pizza and your friend gets half off, you increase your profits by 50%

Shopping South Jersey, Southeast Pennsylvania, and Delaware above the canal since 2008
@Lstockwell wrote:

The inside purchase has to be timed before the outside purchase.

We got what you were saying, both times, but he was talking about another type of gas station shop. For example, the one I do, you have to purchase your fuel first, then go inside and make your observations and then purchase something while inside. Then if the associate is out of uniform, you must reveal yourself, etc.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2022 03:50AM by purpleicee.
How about try and be a good shopper with integrity? If you have too much gas in your own tank, take some gas cans. That’s what I do. Offense is directed here: you are the type of shopper that gives us all a bad rap. You have no integrity, scruples and are not trustworthy. You are why they think shoppers are not worth anything and offer little pay. You are the type of shopper that makes every MSP, scheduler and editor question the rest of us. You will eventually be found out and hopefully eliminated from every MSPs list. I violated the rules I know. This is a personal insult, but this poster insults the rest of us with this bull.
@mmsackett wrote:

How about try and be a good shopper with integrity? If you have too much gas in your own tank, take some gas cans. That’s what I do. Offense is directed here: you are the type of shopper that gives us all a bad rap. You have no integrity, scruples and are not trustworthy. You are why they think shoppers are not worth anything and offer little pay. You are the type of shopper that makes every MSP, scheduler and editor question the rest of us. You will eventually be found out and hopefully eliminated from every MSPs list. I violated the rules I know. This is a personal insult, but this poster insults the rest of us with this bull.

I started a conversation for ways to increase your profits. You can bring a gas can and than sell the gas to a friend for half the price.
You can do a pizza shop and split the cost of the pizza with a friend.
As a taxpayer, I am glad that John is using his meticulous records to pay income tax on the extra profits he makes from selling leftover gas and pizza. Way to go, Hohn!
@johnb974 wrote:

@mmsackett wrote:

How about try and be a good shopper with integrity? If you have too much gas in your own tank, take some gas cans. That’s what I do. Offense is directed here: you are the type of shopper that gives us all a bad rap. You have no integrity, scruples and are not trustworthy. You are why they think shoppers are not worth anything and offer little pay. You are the type of shopper that makes every MSP, scheduler and editor question the rest of us. You will eventually be found out and hopefully eliminated from every MSPs list. I violated the rules I know. This is a personal insult, but this poster insults the rest of us with this bull.

I started a conversation for ways to increase your profits. You can bring a gas can and than sell the gas to a friend for half the price.
You can do a pizza shop and split the cost of the pizza with a friend.

Shopping South Jersey, Southeast Pennsylvania, and Delaware above the canal since 2008
@myst4au wrote:

As a taxpayer, I am glad that John is using his meticulous records to pay income tax on the extra profits he makes from selling leftover gas and pizza. Way to go, Hohn!
@johnb974 wrote:

@mmsackett wrote:

How about try and be a good shopper with integrity? If you have too much gas in your own tank, take some gas cans. That’s what I do. Offense is directed here: you are the type of shopper that gives us all a bad rap. You have no integrity, scruples and are not trustworthy. You are why they think shoppers are not worth anything and offer little pay. You are the type of shopper that makes every MSP, scheduler and editor question the rest of us. You will eventually be found out and hopefully eliminated from every MSPs list. I violated the rules I know. This is a personal insult, but this poster insults the rest of us with this bull.

I started a conversation for ways to increase your profits. You can bring a gas can and than sell the gas to a friend for half the price.
You can do a pizza shop and split the cost of the pizza with a friend.

When you get a coupon for half off on a burger, do you report it as a profit on your taxes?
A coupon is not money paid to you and therefore is not income. Therefore it does not have to be reported to the IRS. You also do not have to report savings on items on sale in the grocery store.

You did not yet ask about a rebate check that is sent to you. IMHO, that is also in effect a coupon and you do not have to pay income tax on it. However, if the original item was purchased for business use (or was reimbursed), then you either have to count the rebate as income or adjust the amount that you report as a business expense.
@johnb974 wrote:

@myst4au wrote:

As a taxpayer, I am glad that John is using his meticulous records to pay income tax on the extra profits he makes from selling leftover gas and pizza. Way to go, John!
@johnb974 wrote:

@mmsackett wrote:

How about try and be a good shopper with integrity? If you have too much gas in your own tank, take some gas cans. That’s what I do. Offense is directed here: you are the type of shopper that gives us all a bad rap. You have no integrity, scruples and are not trustworthy. You are why they think shoppers are not worth anything and offer little pay. You are the type of shopper that makes every MSP, scheduler and editor question the rest of us. You will eventually be found out and hopefully eliminated from every MSPs list. I violated the rules I know. This is a personal insult, but this poster insults the rest of us with this bull.

I started a conversation for ways to increase your profits. You can bring a gas can and than sell the gas to a friend for half the price.
You can do a pizza shop and split the cost of the pizza with a friend.

When you get a coupon for half off on a burger, do you report it as a profit on your taxes?

Shopping South Jersey, Southeast Pennsylvania, and Delaware above the canal since 2008
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