My issue with her is that first she is making so much of that up, but next, as a scheduler, I could end up working with some of these people she has 'trained'. New shoppers can be great, and I like it when we have them - but someone who has unrealistic expectations, makes the entire process slower. For all you good and great shoppers on here, they will make you look even better if that helps!



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Ok apparently posting links to her public profiles is verboten?

@Lady Marius wrote:

I just reported her. I had to google how to report her account/videos. I am attaching the instructions. Not sure if you need an account to report, I have one.

In the TikTok app, go to the person's profile.
Tap the Share button at the top.
Tap Report.
Tap Report account.
Select a reason for the report and tap Submit.

It works with individual videos as well. I just reported each of her videos referencing her Mystery Shop Program and her account as Fraud/Scam.

If you really want to stop this scam, you should report her to Stripe. As a payment processor, they don't want to deal with a scammer because they don't want to deal with disputes and chargebacks.

This subject of this TikTok Mystery Shopper thread has gotten a good bit of our members' attention. The issue is that the references posted by this person, as well as any links posted by same poster can presumably benefit this poster financially, and this has been something that has been discouraged in the past when used by other posters. For these reasons, any and all posts from this poster have been considered as spam and have been removed. In addition, any links to any reference of this person that have been previously posted by other posters here in this thread have also been removed. We thank you for your understanding. Thank you, the Moderation Team

She has a video up now about how the mean Karens are lying about her on the forum. One of her followers told her.

Ha ha ha one of my comments made it to her fb. I think she’s on this forum. Ok Kayla, comment on here! Introduce yourself. We would love to learn more.

Gigi she was on here last night posting but has been removed. She came along to let us know that she is also a voice-over talent. Um, ok!

Oh shoot! I missed it!!! Her voice doesn’t strike me as one that would be a voice over…. But what do I know!!!

I left a message on her FB calling her a fraud as well. Perhaps we should all post links to this site saying all of her "information" and "secrets" are free here?

I left comments on her TikTok’s and she blocked me.

@weatherman2111 wrote:

I left a message on her FB calling her a fraud as well. Perhaps we should all post links to this site saying all of her "information" and "secrets" are free here?

I saw she liked service's post. They should be proud. I personally take offense to ANY scammer. I have been scammed before, and nothing makes me angrier than scammers who want something they haven't worked hard themselves for. Bravo to everyone who has stepped in to try to stop this leech from scamming others. Maybe those individuals should know better, but... "The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing."

@Equine24 wrote:

I saw she liked service's post. They should be proud.

Why would I be proud? I don't need people to "like" what I say to know who I am in Christ Jesus. It also does not bother me when someone does not like what I say.

@Equine24 wrote:

I personally take offense to ANY scammer. I have been scammed before, and nothing makes me angrier than scammers who want something they haven't worked hard themselves for.

I have also been a victim of a scam, in fact two that I know for sure about. I do not like scammers either. You are alleging that this woman wants something they have not worked hard for themselves. I have asked, and am still waiting on an answer, for someone to tell me how they know this woman has never done any mystery shopping. I can't say that. I do not know enough about her to say that she hasn't. What she does in her videos is irrelevant to that question.

I also stated in another post there are an innumerable number of people on other websites doing the exact same thing. A simple YouTube search for "mystery shoppers" will pull up many individuals who are making similar videos AND getting paid for doing so. Where is the outrage against those people? Will any one of you contact YouTube about the hundreds of people there that are "scamming" people on that platform?

You all are aiming your anger at one individual. At this point it now comes across as bullying and very well could be harassment. It is one thing for you to "know" she is a scammer, it is another for you to prove it. As someone with a background in the law, I would STRONGLY advise anybody posting accusatory statements on her platforms to stop. I can only go by what people say they have posted to her account as I've not gone to look myself - but please, stop, for your own sake. I would also recommend any schedulers who may be partaking in this activity to stop before you drag the company you work for into this. If you have a genuine concern about her scamming people, then the correct thing to do is to contact the Attorney General's office in her state, which I presume to be South Carolina. They will probably not do anything unless an actual victim reports her. That will be on them, but at least it should ease your conscience if I am wrong and that is what is driving you.

To the individual that this thread is about, should you read this, if you are being dishonest and not following through with what you are telling your customers, you need to stop and rethink what you are doing. I would advise you to have an attorney assisting you, if you do not already, so that you have your business (and I think that is what you are doing) set up correctly. There is no crime in telling someone you are a mystery shopper, even if you aren't. You can represent yourself as one on the Internet to your heart's content. If you are disrupting businesses by telling them you are a mystery shopper and you aren't, and that activity takes them away from helping genuine customers, they could call you out for disrupting a business. They probably are not going to do that. You definitely do not want to try to access restricted areas by lying to a business about your status as a mystery shopper. At a minimum that would be trespassing. You also do not want to try to get discounts or free stuff from the business by telling them you are a mystery shopper. That would be fraud. I've not seen any of that in the videos I've watched, but I'm putting that out there and is another reason why I would talk to a good attorney to make sure you do not go across the line. There are content creator attorneys out there who guide creators through the law on what they can and cannot do. Your business is creating content - that's what people here do not grasp. Finally, if you continue to receive accusatory statements, I would strongly advise you to take screenshots and document them. Also, take screenshots of posts here that direct others to post on your platforms. You need to have full page screenshots. There are several good attorneys in Greenville and any one of them can get cease and desists out to these people through the platforms they are using. Even if they stop, I would still do this. The cease and desist is not legally enforceable, but it formally documents the issue and if they do it after being placed on notice, you will be set up to proceed into court. They are damaging your reputation and your business, and there would be liability if you can show harm by proving you lost customers based on those posts. The cease and desist is the first step.

I love my peeps here, even the ones with whom I disagree.

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-mutters to myself- a2d…a2d…a2d…

Some people just like to hear themselves talk.

Wanted to see what you were talking about but can't bring it up.

She has screenshot the fb profile of someone on this forum and posted it on her fb saying that this person is crazy. It’s apparently someone on here who has tried to warn people. I won’t put the persons name on here, but initials are NDA.

@JSuing wrote:

Some people just like to hear themselves talk.

And some people just like to be bullies. Nobody has bothered to answer any of the questions I've posed. Why is that?

If you all keep harassing her, the only ones Kayla will be laughing at is you.

So you like fraudsters and rip-off artists who make us all look bad?

Apparently she blocked me to. Looks like anyone else with a FB account will have to keep hammering their reporting bots for the fraud she's committing.

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If she was legit and really trying to promote a legetimate business, she wouldn't block other shoppers and individuals who work for MSC on her platforms. She would respond to their concerns. Shes a coward. She blocks anyone who challenges her and then screenshots and reposts. Does she realize that shes probably going to end up blocked from every mystery shop company?

@weatherman2111 wrote:

So you like fraudsters and rip-off artists who make us all look bad?

No, I don't, which I've already stated. Rather than deflect, why don't you answer the questions I've asked? Instead of actually having a civil discussion, which is what this forum is about, people choose to deflect or mock my own posts because I state things they disagree with. Yet, not one person has bothered to address the concerns I've raised. Nobody in their right mind would be so bent out of shape over something that is not at all out of the ordinary for TikTok or other platforms. You slave to the MSCs and she has figured out a better honey pot.

Again, I ask you, why has this woman become the target of the ire of this board when there are literally hundreds of people out there doing the same thing. I mean, seriously? Have you been living under a rock for the last decade? This is the nature of the Internet.

Fraud is a legal term. It does not matter what you think fraud is. Not one person has shown ANYTHING to legally prove this person is defrauding her customers. All of her actions, based on what has been posted here and from what I have seen, are LEGAL. Period. You do not have to like it. You can think it is dirty or immoral, but it is legal.

People keep saying she isn't really doing mystery shops. So what? She is allowed to fake mystery shop. It is not illegal and the content platforms are making money off of her. They are not going to delete her account. But if she reports she is being harassed, you run the risk of Facebook, etc. permanently suspending and blocking your IP address - potentially not only cutting off you, but others in your home who are on the same IP.

@gigishopper wrote:

She has screenshot the fb profile of someone on this forum and posted it on her fb saying that this person is crazy. It’s apparently someone on here who has tried to warn people. I won’t put the persons name on here, but initials are NDA.

Seems one of my previous posts on this thread has come to fruition.

Hi ServiceAward, she is not the target of this board, but she is the subject of this thread. Are you Kayla? If so, you have been on here for 6 months when many of us have been on here many years. We all know that the content that she is posting is fake and not a true representation of mystery shopping. This thread is a discussion of that. The comments that I made on her (your) Tiktok merely stated that this board was free and avalable to anyone who wanted to join (for free). My comments were deleted and I was blocked. Im not mad about it. I could honestly care less. I am just genuinely curious if you are Kayla Laughs Out Loud and if so, hi!

@gigishopper wrote:

If she was legit and really trying to promote a legetimate business, she wouldn't block other shoppers and individuals who work for MSC on her platforms. She would respond to their concerns. Shes a coward. She blocks anyone who challenges her and then screenshots and reposts. Does she realize that shes probably going to end up blocked from every mystery shop company?

While I agree to some extent that she should address concerns that area raised, if people are just being rude and calling her a fraud, then I think blocking is appropriate. Your point would be well taken by me if someone said something like, "Hey Kayla, how do I know this will work? I'm concerned this may not work or this could be a gimmick. $1,000 is a lot of money to turn over." Unless I've missed something, nobody has approached it in that manner. So I can come back and say, if someone is genuinely concerned about people being taken advantage, then they would tactfully approach this and not harass. People who scream through written words do come across as crazy.

I don't think she cares if an MSC blocks her. I'm not sure if an MSC would block her. If anything, I would not be shocked if someone recruits her to help them get more shoppers, if they haven't already. We would probably never know. I think that is the crux of the issue with folks here. How many times has the topic of too many shoppers come up on this forum? The mystery shopping field for many years was - no pun intended - kind of secret. It used to be that people like me thought it was all a scam. I was stunned a decade ago when I realized I could get paid for eating and reviewing the clown fast food restaurant. Most people have no idea gas stations get audited. Nobody here, understandably, wants more shoppers in an already crowded field. I don't fault anybody for wanting to protect their turf. It is your livelihood, your bread and butter - I get that. But your ire is directed at the wrong entity. It isn't people like Kayla who are making wacky videos and selling free information. It is the MSCs who value quantity over quality.

You didn't answer my question: Are you Kayla?

@ServiceAward wrote:

@gigishopper wrote:

If she was legit and really trying to promote a legetimate business, she wouldn't block other shoppers and individuals who work for MSC on her platforms. She would respond to their concerns. Shes a coward. She blocks anyone who challenges her and then screenshots and reposts. Does she realize that shes probably going to end up blocked from every mystery shop company?

While I agree to some extent that she should address concerns that area raised, if people are just being rude and calling her a fraud, then I think blocking is appropriate. Your point would be well taken by me if someone said something like, "Hey Kayla, how do I know this will work? I'm concerned this may not work or this could be a gimmick. $1,000 is a lot of money to turn over." Unless I've missed something, nobody has approached it in that manner. So I can come back and say, if someone is genuinely concerned about people being taken advantage, then they would tactfully approach this and not harass. People who scream through written words do come across as crazy.

I don't think she cares if an MSC blocks her. I'm not sure if an MSC would block her. If anything, I would not be shocked if someone recruits her to help them get more shoppers, if they haven't already. We would probably never know. I think that is the crux of the issue with folks here. How many times has the topic of too many shoppers come up on this forum? The mystery shopping field for many years was - no pun intended - kind of secret. It used to be that people like me thought it was all a scam. I was stunned a decade ago when I realized I could get paid for eating and reviewing the clown fast food restaurant. Most people have no idea gas stations get audited. Nobody here, understandably, wants more shoppers in an already crowded field. I don't fault anybody for wanting to protect their turf. It is your livelihood, your bread and butter - I get that. But your ire is directed at the wrong entity. It isn't people like Kayla who are making wacky videos and selling free information. It is the MSCs who value quantity over quality.

Service, here's my problem with her and her "honey pot":

It's hugely deceptive. She posts videos of herself purportedly doing all these mystery shops, which we all have good reason to believe are phony baloney. If she wants to pull her shenanigans against the MSCs, fine - as you say, they're corporations, and they can handle their own affairs.

But what about once somebody has paid her the $1,000 and signed up with every company on her list, only to find out that her "take a video, announce they passed or failed, and receive enough money to pay your mortgage for the month" shops never existed to begin with? That wouldn't make you feel duped?

To your point about all the other people posting the same schtick: I don't use social media, so I have no clue what happens in that regard. If this hadn't been posted in the forum, I never would have known this woman existed.

I can honestly say I'd have been happier to remain blissfully unaware.

@gigishopper wrote:

The comments that I made on her (your) Tiktok merely stated that this board was free and avalable to anyone who wanted to join (for free). My comments were deleted and I was blocked.

If she was genuinely interested in helping her customers succeed, she wouldn't feel threatened by them knowing this forum exists.

ETA: I just created a Facebook account. One person made a comment about how they wish they could join her program, but they don't have that kind of money to spend. Nowhere do I see where Kayla said, "All of the information is available for free online," or "You can join MysteryShopForum to receive help for free."

Zero interest in helping somebody succeed in this business. It's nothing but a deceptive money grab. Once this well runs dry for her, she'll move on to the next thing. Scammer's gonna scam, grifter's gonna grift.

Sorry, Service. You won't change my mind on this one.

ETA #2:
Person: "I just wish so badly that the program was not so expensive. It would be such a good job, it really IS a lot of money."
Kayla: "I'm so sorry, there's just a lot behind it. It took me 2 years to make this list. I lost money along the way because I fell for scams and there was no support or help. I had to hire my marketing team to help me make this program work. I also am spending so much time on this and giving individual support to everyone for a whole year. This is a lot of work and people that are helping me need to be paid as well. Not to mention the fees that go with website maintenance and all other expenses. There is nothing else out there like this. So many peoples have signed up. One has already made $900 in Orlando, FL"
My comment: "There IS something else out there like this, and it's 100% free. Unfortunately, you keep blocking anybody who posts about it. If you were truly interested in helping others succeed in this business, you wouldn't feel threatened by them knowing free help existed."

I'm sure I'll be blocked just like everybody else here.

ETA #3: Yep. As I predicted, I'm now blocked. Yay!



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1. No way SA is Kayla unless she has multiple personality disorder.

2. What is your question SA? I can't find it in the logorreha.

3. Lying abour being mystery shopper isn't the issue. Annoying but whatever. The blatant grifting and fraud are.

@gigishopper wrote:

Hi ServiceAward, she is not the target of this board, but she is the subject of this thread. Are you Kayla? If so, you have been on here for 6 months when many of us have been on here many years. We all know that the content that she is posting is fake and not a true representation of mystery shopping. This thread is a discussion of that. The comments that I made on her (your) Tiktok merely stated that this board was free and avalable to anyone who wanted to join (for free). My comments were deleted and I was blocked. Im not mad about it. I could honestly care less. I am just genuinely curious if you are Kayla Laughs Out Loud and if so, hi!

I did not see your question. But to answer it, no, I am most definitely not Kayla. I do not know her. I've never spoken to her, messaged her, etc. I never heard of her until this thread was started weeks ago. I knew there were people out there who made videos similar to what she does. I'm not one of them. I am a reseller of hard and soft good across multiple platforms. I have scaled that business over the past 6 months and I make more money in the long term doing that than mystery shopping. I do about 75% less mystery shopping work now than I did a year ago. I've been a casual reseller since 2004, but only decided to expand after I moved back home to care for my elderly mother who has dementia. That's when I started mystery shopping and doing audits again. I didn't know which business would be the one to take off, so I kept one foot in each. It was only at Christmas that I realized my potential to grow was on the reselling side, not the mystery shopping. Another factor was that mom's memory has faded more in recent months, and I cannot go out of town to shop as I had been doing. I was coming home at night to find she had not eaten all day, even though I had food prepared for her and she told me on the phone she had eaten. Recently there have been two instances of her nearly cutting a finger off, so it is getting harder for me to leave home for any length of time, even in town. So, I may do 10 mystery shops or audits a month. They have to pay well, and I have to either be able to do them from home or they have to be hyper local. If there was a good paying recall job 30 miles away and I knew I could be back within a couple of hours, then I would do that. But, no more 15-stop gas station routes for me.

I have no idea what anybody posted on her platform. But, I do know the law and I do not want to see anybody here becoming liable for something that is really quite petty when you consider the vast amount of content (re: garbage) on the Internet. People here have mouths to feed. The last thing you should want is for your emotions to get the best of you and this woman to sue you. Repeated posting to her platform calling her a fraud or that giving the impression that she is taking advantage of others, if in fact she is not, could open up a huge can of worms. And again, I say I can't say that she isn't defrauding people. I do not know, and nobody here has been able to state how they know she is. Her mystery shopping videos, legally speaking from what I have seen, are fine. I do not think she is meant to be taken that seriously, hence her brand name.

Be the best shopper you can be, and show the MSCs why you are better than someone who may have gone through Kayla's training.

@drdoggie00 wrote:

@gigishopper wrote:

The comments that I made on her (your) Tiktok merely stated that this board was free and avalable to anyone who wanted to join (for free). My comments were deleted and I was blocked.

If she was genuinely interested in helping her customers succeed, she wouldn't feel threatened by them knowing this forum exists.

ETA: I just created a Facebook account. One person made a comment about how they wish they could join her program, but they don't have that kind of money to spend. Nowhere do I see where Kayla said, "All of the information is available for free online," or "You can join MysteryShopForum to receive help for free."

Zero interest in helping somebody succeed in this business. It's nothing but a deceptive money grab. Once this well runs dry for her, she'll move on to the next thing. Scammer's gonna scam, grifter's gonna grift.

Sorry, Service. You won't change my mind on this one.

If your issue is with her selling free information, I cannot figure out why that is a big deal. The entire internet is made up of people selling information that one can easily Google. If she were charging, for example, $100 instead of $1,000, would that make it okay? I'm trying to pin down whether it is the amount of money she is charging or whether it is in fact she is charging.

I wanted to get on Fiver and sell my knowledge, talents and expertise last year. I made an account and I discovered the market is saturated in my field. Some of the people on there I knew, some I knew were not genuine. Yet, some of the ones that I felt were not genuine, had seller customer reviews. These people had not going through the education and training I have, yet they could very well be making more money than me. It was disheartening when I discovered it and is why I did not go through with creating that content.

I respect your opinion, @drdoggie00.

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Ok, lots here. First of all, a Cease and Desist is meaningless. I could write you such a letter right now, and...so what? Secondly, it would be logistically impossible to send such letters to people posting on this anonymous forum. Maybe, perhaps, you could get subpoena user contact data from TikTok and Facebook (which are not "Kayla's" platforms, she is merely a user) and maybe, big maybe, they would release contact info. More likely, they would point out that she is posting information in a public forum, and that its not uncommon for people to disagree with it. She wants the privilege of posting whatever she wants, same is extended to the rest of their users unless there is a very clear risk of danger or TOS violations. She monitors her accounts constantly, and blocks anyone who questions anything she does. Normally thats a massive red flag of untoward activity, but if you see it otherwise thats great. No need to debate that. In my real job, I sell software to every platform she uses, so I'm deeply familiar with how this all works.

More importantly, to be "liable" for something, there would need to be damages. This person has not been damaged or harmed in any way. She posted that she has 800 people signed up for her list and coaching, to the tune of $800K. Whether that is true or not, that is what she posted in the same public platform. If we want to extend the benefit of the doubt that everything she posts is accurate, then we'd conclude this is also accurate. She also shares in many places that she makes $50K a year as a Mystery Shopper, so a sudden windfall of $800K wouldn't be viewed reasonably as insignificant or somehow less than what her business is accustomed to generating.

Far from being damaged by the comments in this thread, she has spun this and capitalized on it, making a video claiming that "an entire forum was created just to talk about me!" That isn't factual, as this forum has been around for years and there is but one thread about her. She did take a few screenshots from this thread and posted those to the same video, pointing out that it was suggested to report her as a scam. Should we send her a Cease and Desist for posting our comments without our permission? No, because its meaningless. She conveniently left out 99% of the comments and questions leading up to that point, as again she shields her followers from anything that might question her veracity. Her followers went in to overdrive defending her and praising her and reminding her that she was the best thing to ever happen to them, so again no harm done. She's probably more popular than ever with them.

As an aside, her Facebook page declares she is a Comedian/Entertainer. Part of me wonders if this somehow was a skit that just went way too far. But thats just a musing.

As another "huh?" observation - she also states that the ONLY way to find out who the legitimate MSCs are is to buy her list - she has a few posts stating this. Is it possible there are other MSCs that not a single one of us know about who hire people to do revealed, publicized, video shops - and that these are really the only legitimate MSCs out there? Sounds improbable, but she's adamant thats what she is doing and these legitimate companies support what she is doing. Not an accusation on my part that this isn't true, a sincere "huh?"

There are MSCs aware of her actions, there are clients aware of her actions, and eventually some of these 800 people she sold her 'program' to will likely have feedback. So, agreed, time will tell.

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