Five Guys vs all other fast food/fast casual

People probably jump all over the Cane's shops because they are much easier to do and they were planning on eating at Cane's anyway. Even I do them for no shop fee occasionally if it's a location right by home or work.

How many of us would otherwise be going to Five Guys anyway? Probably not very many. If I went on my own dime, I would just get a cheeseburger and water, and maybe split an order of fries if someone else comes with me.

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i agree I'm not a normal customer of 5g, but if you are going to give me a combo and pay me $20 or more, I will take that all day everyday.

Yes, report is a little longer than RC, but I won't go to RC on my own dime either. While it's more reasonable than 5G, i think they have started overcharging as well. Many times I see a RC next to or near an In N Out and I will choose In N Out all day everyday over RC. I think they (in N Out) offer the better value. Plus RC seems to be overrun with teenagers now because they can move all the tables and chairs together. With the tables in fixed positions at In N Out, they cannot do that.

@jp43209 wrote:

People probably jump all over the Cane's shops because they are much easier to do and they were planning on eating at Cane's anyway. Even I do them for no shop fee occasionally if it's a location right by home or work.

How many of us would otherwise be going to Five Guys anyway? Probably not very many. If I went on my own dime, I would just get a cheeseburger and water, and maybe split an order of fries if someone else comes with me.
@sestrahelena wrote:

Before the burger-only requirement, I had tried the hot dog and "grilled cheese." Both were on those tiny HB buns. Not nice.

Ummm, you can still order whatever you want.
When did 5G start requiring burgers only? I thought only Sonic was doing that.
@gigishopper wrote:

Are you referring to the pause after you order the burger to see if they offer the fries, drink and shake?

Yup. Not normal consumer behavior. The previous scenario was valid: order two, accept the third item when offered. I would order my burger and a drink, then accept the fries.

FWIS, nobody walks into a burger place and just orders a burger and nothing else.

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By the time I've finished slowly adding my burger toppings, they almost always ask if I want to add a drink and fries and lately a milk shake too. In the rare instance when they don't, ill add it after, "Anything else?, Is that it?" Not an issue.

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They have not started requiring only burgers.
@Morledzep wrote:

When did 5G start requiring burgers only? I thought only Sonic was doing that.

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After a taste, I bring the shake home. My garage freezer is full of them.

@Susan L. wrote:

Not a lot of variety at 5G. It gets boring after a few visits. But there is lots of variety at Panda E.

5G needs something besides beef burgers and fries, like chili, fried zucchini or jalapenos, veggie burgers, gravy, etc. And more flavors like BBQ.

And they need to separate the shake shops from the main shops. I don't know too many who can eat a cheeseburger, fries, fountain soda AND a shake in one visit. When I see a shake requirement, I run...

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@hbbigdaddy wrote:

@olympia tennenbaum

Very good. I didn't think it needed an explanation. I'm not going to get on a call and be rude, but I'm going to act like I'm distracted to force the employee to either ask the question or give me the total.

I'm not going to skip this shop when paying $20 or higher just because I am only allowed to ask for the burger. They want their stupid requirements, I can follow them and play along.

I typically just order my burger or sandwich, add the toppings, and then fumble in my pocket as though I'm trying to find my credit card. I've never really had an awkward pause.
Most of the ff you are talking about (Sonic, RC etc) do not exist where I live however 5G does. I did two of them long ago but none of their stores are in easy places to get to. One a busy shopping center where I drive a half mile up and down through the crowded parking structure to find a space to park, then a long walk. The other on a popular bar street which is always crowded night and day so no parking. I found a grocery store lot about 5 blocks away. And I am not even sure what a bonus would look like in my town (Los Angeles), probably tops out at a dollar. When I tried it I remember the shamefully small sandwich I got for even a blown up price in those days and having to dig the food out of the fries. Maybe that all has changed.
So if the new rule is all you can order is a burger over and over, then I am glad I dont do them. I loved it when the Counter was shopped. FF and upscale FF burger places are all over the place. Competition is fierce for those $20 burgers. I don't know how any of them stay in business. There must be 20 or 30 different ff burger chains nearby. Panda at least has choices and you can skip the fries. The report and stay are shorter with no silliness necessary in that job.
@weatherman2111 wrote:

@sestrahelena wrote:

Before the burger-only requirement, I had tried the hot dog and "grilled cheese." Both were on those tiny HB buns. Not nice.

Ummm, you can still order whatever you want.

Sorry, I was confused.
@sandyf

No, you are supposed to end up with a burger, fries, and a drink. Sometimes a shake too (rare, but sometimes that scenario is out there).

Some of the people don't like the ordering requirement that you are only supposed to ask for the burger and wait for them to say something about the fries and drink. It is not the ordering process for most normal people as generally people will just keep ordering and not stand there waiting for the cashier to say something. This requirement bothers some people to the point they won't do the shop. I will do the shop because I act like I got interrupted by looking at my cellphone like a text just came thru. The cashier has always said something. Even if it was just as simple as "anything else?". This is what 5g wants to know. Are they attempting to upsell the additional items.

The report for is "clunky" because you have to scroll thru 30 pages to complete it. It's not a hard shop to do, but the report would be so much better on Sassie software where it's one page and you can jump around much easier.

The biggest thing with most people on the forum with 5G is that they are overpriced. But I don't care. I don't do them at base. Pay starts at $9, then goes up. Today (beginning of the new period) it is at $15 and a make an offer option. Tomorrow those remaining will be at $18. Saturday they will be at $20. When shops are not done by Sunday, the bonuses get real juicy the following Monday-Wednesday. This is normally when people are getting $30 an up. So what if you spend an extra $3-4 to get what you want. You are still netting a good amount for an easier shop. If you don't like the food, then you don't like the food. That's a completely different issue.
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That is not true. You can order anything. I don't know where that incorrect information came from. It has been corrected several times already.
@sandyf wrote:

So if the new rule is all you can order is a burger over and over.

Shopping Southeast Pennsylvania, Delaware above the canal, and South Jersey since 2008
@myst4au wrote:

That is not true. You can order anything. I don't know where that incorrect information came from. It has been corrected several times already.
@sandyf wrote:

So if the new rule is all you can order is a burger over and over.

Indeed. HB, please stop saying something factually incorrect. The guidelines are very clear that we can order any entre we want so long as we end up with an entre, fries and a fountain soda, plus a milkshake if required, or if we just want one.
@weatherman2111

I think the confusion here is that some have complained that you can only order the "entree" first and cannot order like most customers where you ask for fries and drink all at the same time. The way I read @sandyf question was that she thought you were only getting the burger and not the other items.

In all honesty, i really don't care what other items are allowed as the "entree." I'm ordering the burger myself everytime.

the point is that you can only order a burger, hot dog or whatever other main item by itself AND have to wait for the upsell.
The responses here are interesting to me...I don't have a problem with the guidelines....I order my sandwich, then pause to look up at the menu board....as if I am still deciding (and sometimes I am)...usually while I am looking, they prompt me for additional items - and that meets the goal of the requirement....if they don't say anything...anything....Bueller? I continue and of course, report that.

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@hbbigdaddy wrote:

@weatherman2111

I think the confusion here is that some have complained that you can only order the "entree" first and cannot order like most customers where you ask for fries and drink all at the same time. The way I read @sandyf question was that she thought you were only getting the burger and not the other items.

In all honesty, i really don't care what other items are allowed as the "entree." I'm ordering the burger myself everytime.

the point is that you can only order a burger, hot dog or whatever other main item by itself AND have to wait for the upsell.

Ok, got ya.

And tbf, they do now apparently have some limited numbers of shops that are burger only.
@larueda992 wrote:

I don't know how many times each Five Guys gets shopped in a month. I suppose it's 4 to 6 times. It get tedious seeing 60-100 postings for burgers every week. Very few people pick them up where I live. This is the only fast food place I know that gets shopped multiple times per month. The shopping company's job board needs more variety like they used to have over 10 years ago.
See, now I would guess once per quarter. At least that's how often I do each one.

Obviously I'm not the only shopper in my area. But I get a decent sense from the calls I get and from seeing other jobs on other platforms and how fast they go. So either the premise is wrong and the other shoppers love 5G enough to grab them for $12 when I'm getting $20-30, or they can't possibly be shopped that often.

I think the rule is more complex than that. They need some number of locations every week, and they need each location every few months. But if someone across the country grabs the quota-making shop they won't be accepting your offer here.

That has been my impression for a while, and then last month reinforced it. I wanted to take a job for Friday, but somewhere in the "make an offer" and getting a counter-offer process I accidentally accepted for Saturday. I asked if it could be switched and was told they day wasn't available anymore. That can only mean it was filled via another location.

That said, the rules may also vary by area. What's true for me in NJ may not be true for someone in a city with multiple high-traffic locations.
@amarsir....i have no idea how you arrived at your conclusion.

"That has been my impression for a while, and then last month reinforced it. I wanted to take a job for Friday, but somewhere in the "make an offer" and getting a counter-offer process I accidentally accepted for Saturday. I asked if it could be switched and was told they day wasn't available anymore. That can only mean it was filled via another location."

You want to "test" your theory. Accept a shop again for a saturday (not on saturday) and then cancel it and you will see that the Friday is also available UNLESS someone took the lunch time with you wanting dinner or vice versa. They will not shop both meal periods on the same day at the same locaiton (that I am aware of). They were just not willing to switch it for you.

I see the same locations shopped each week (period starts Thursday). This is both in Southern California and also in greater Phoenix area. Same addresses are posted week after week and the price goes up the longer they sit on the board. The ones in SoCal are not there for several weeks because they have been taken. The ones in greater phoenix area are at $12 today and will go up tomorrow and keep going up until they get assigned

You can look at zip code 85007 if you want. The same location there this week AND next week starting on 10/31. And also the week after starting on 11/07.

I cannot say this is the same for the entire US locations, but for 2 major metropolitan areas, these shops are done weekly. The difference being the number of people in Los Angeles willing to do them for the base pay of $9 vs the number of people in PHX not willing to do them for $9.
@hbbigdaddy wrote:

I can confirm Hbb view of Los Angeles. I just checked the website at noonish on 10/22. There was only one 5 guys shop in my city which was due this coming weekend. The rest of them were starting on 11/21. But the list of even those was pretty short even though those were a month away and of course with no bonus. There were some scattered locations in some of the smaller cities woven into the LA metro area but none were close enough to my location to drive to for $9, a meal and a report.

I cannot say this is the same for the entire US locations, but for 2 major metropolitan areas, these shops are done weekly. The difference being the number of people in Los Angeles willing to do them for the base pay of $9 vs the number of people in PHX not willing to do them for $9.
@hbbigdaddy wrote:

Same addresses are posted week after week and the price goes up the longer they sit on the board..

Thus proving that location is not getting shopped 4-6 times per month. It can't be "sitting on the board" and also getting taken.

Like I said, it's not every location every week. It's "some quantity" every week, and possibly every day for the target days. If shoppers in LA want to go every week for the minimum then that hits the quota. That doesn't mean the only shopper in Billings, Montana gets to hold out for $40 every week so that the 5G in Billings gets it's weekly visit.
You are making assumptions based on very little data. You are free to do that, but I don't have to agree. I watch several markets as I shop in various locations. I see the same thing in SoCal, Phoenix, and Omaha. Maybe if more people started saying what you were saying, i might change my mind.

BTW, these PHX shops that are sitting on the board always get taken, but not taken early like they are in SoCal. going rate in PHX is around $18-20 when you see them disappearing on Saturdays.
I have to chuckle when they turn down my MAO for $30 on Friday and call me Monday morning at 8 AM asking me to do the shop for $30. US based scheduler. And I couldn't do the lunch shop since I have a job that i couldn't spend an hour away from.

An aside, they raised the delivery shops from $5 to $7 now where I live. I hold out for $10.
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