@1forum1 wrote:

@ Maverick.... you said a LOT more than "it's not for me." Your post is riddled with assertions, and typically, included a slight on people not like you, states not like yours, and ideology different from yours, as if you, and I mean you, are better than whoever and whatever is different from you and your own beliefs. You manage to insert these sentiments seemingly someway in practically everything you post.

@1forum1

Well, I'm glad to see you didn't dispute any of the facts I stated. Cali is an absolutely beautiful place to visit. It's just a shame that people have ruined it so much that it has the highest outbound rate in the nation. That single fact speaks volumes.

Based on the hidden posts, I can already guess what's happened

How many angels can you get to dance on the head of a pin?

@ Maverick.... Assertions are not facts. I could go line by line and dispute your myopic assertions, but I will just point at one for example. You said CA has a "law permitting shoplifting under $900." Nope. BS rhetoric, and I had over 13 years experience dealing with shoplifters. The current California Penal Code for petty theft (under $950) is punishable up to six months in jail and/or $1000 fine or both. That is a fact. The petty theft law has been similar for at least the last 50 years. By the way, the petty theft law in California is a tougher threshold than almost every state in the country including Texas, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Arkansas.That's a fact.

Regarding your comment about California "that it has the highest outbound rate in the nation." Maybe...Yet, there was a net increase in population growth of over 200,000 last year. That's a fact. I will add that a beautiful thing about California is that people here have options. They take some of that California wealth and are able to move anywhere in the country, and in many cases live better than those already there, because of that California equity, pension, and so forth they bring with them.

@1forum1

You got the term correct, misdemeanor, but you disregard what is actually happening, which means you disregard ALL the facts... That's called, lying by omission. Here are more facts you omit...

Google “Shoplifting in San Francisco” and you will find more than 100,000 hits. And you will find lots of YouTube videos, where you can watch a single thief, or an entire gang, walk into an SF Walgreens or CVS and empty the shelves. Most walk in, go about their pilfering, and then walk out, though at least one thief rode their bike into the store and departed the same way, carefully navigating their two-wheeler down a narrow aisle.

We probably shouldn’t call it shoplifting anymore, since that term connotes the idea of a person trying to conceal their crime. In San Francisco, there is no attempt to conceal theft, and there is almost never any effort by store employees, including security personnel, to confront the thieves. The most they do is record the thefts with their cell phones.

Why is shoplifting so rampant? Because state law holds that stealing merchandise worth $950 or less is just a misdemeanor, which means that law enforcement probably won’t bother to investigate, and if they do, prosecutors will let it go.

Why won’t store employees do anything about this theft? Because they don’t want to take the risk. I doubt many would, knowing that a Rite Aid employee was murdered recently after trying to stop two thieves. Moreover, a confrontation within the store risks harming not only store staff but also customers, so employees are almost certainly instructed by their managers to do nothing.

Because of this law, California is extending an open invitation to anyone to walk in and take. Just like that—since they know that police or prosecutors won’t bother with a misdemeanor complaint and that store personnel won’t stop them.

With regard to net migration;
California had the largest net number of outbound movers, after accounting for migrants and natural births, many left with high net worth. Here is what Google says;
"California's net migration has fluctuated in recent years, with a trend of net domestic out-migration (more people leaving than arriving) coupled with continued gains from international migration. While the state has experienced net population growth in some periods, this has been largely due to natural increase (more births than deaths) and rebounding international migration, not necessarily from attracting more domestic residents.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Fluctuating Net Migration: California has seen periods of net domestic out-migration, meaning more people move out of the state than into it from other parts of the US.
Recent Trends: While the rate of people leaving California has decreased in recent years, the state still experiences net out-migration.
Impact of Pandemic: The COVID-19 pandemic significantly impacted migration patterns, with a notable increase in people leaving California, particularly during 2020 and 2021.
Recovery and Growth: Since the pandemic, net international migration has recovered, contributing to population growth, and the rate of domestic out-migration has slowed.
Natural Increase: Births have also increased, contributing to overall population growth, although natural increase is still below pre-pandemic levels.
High Income Households: There's evidence of high-income households leaving California, with net out-migration of those with an adjusted gross income of $200,000 or more.
Regional Variations: Some areas within California, particularly the Bay Area, have seen net migration gains, while others, like San Francisco, have experienced significant net domestic migration losses.
Overall Growth: Despite the out-migration trends, California's population has still grown in recent years, primarily due to international migration and natural increase."

@1forum1 wrote:

@ Maverick.... Assertions are not facts. I could go line by line and dispute your myopic assertions, but I will just point at one for example. You said CA has a "law permitting shoplifting under $900." Nope. BS rhetoric, and I had over 13 years experience dealing with shoplifters. The current California Penal Code for petty theft (under $950) is punishable up to six months in jail and/or $1000 fine or both. That is a fact. The petty theft law has been similar for at least the last 50 years. By the way, the petty theft law in California is a tougher threshold than almost every state in the country including Texas, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Arkansas.That's a fact.

Regarding your comment about California "that it has the highest outbound rate in the nation." Maybe...Yet, there was a net increase in population growth of over 200,000 last year. That's a fact. I will add that a beautiful thing about California is that people here have options. They take some of that California wealth and are able to move anywhere in the country, and in many cases live better than those already there, because of that California equity, pension, and so forth they bring with them.

I do appreciate some of the tech giants headquartered in California. The attractive compensation and benefits packages have been established as an industry standard or benchmark to use when negotiating and bargaining

@paniconmon wrote:

I do appreciate some of the tech giants headquartered in California. The attractive compensation and benefits packages have been established as an industry standard or benchmark to use when negotiating and bargaining

True, although that's due to the local high cost of living. Note that the tech giants pushed back on such higher compensation/ benefits for the work at home (outside of the state) positions. They caught on to the gamesmanship.

Could ya'll fight in PMs or something?

I buy the hot dogs occasionally. They are really good quality meat and the way they slice them has made me change the way I cook hot dogs at home now.

On topic, I have a few locations very close to my home or work (less then 5 min in the car) that I will do for $18 and then the price goes up as they get further away or otherwise less convenient. Today (Sunday) I was called for one by a scheduler for next round and they offered my $18 rate. So they may be paying more than base pay but have changed their scheduler strategy because it used to be at least Thursday of the cycle before they could offer $18.

@ weatherman...I will honor your request.

1forum1, good choice! I admire your restraint, discipline, and maturity

For myself, I will follow suit and refrain from commenting on weiners and buns

Used to be a "period" ran from thursday to wednesday. On mondays, fees would be at least $20 (if not higher) and have MAO turned on.

It's monday and i see the date range goes from "18-22". 22nd is friday. They are still sitting at $15 and no MAO is on.

guess they are truly not going higher (at least not yet) and they have extended the typical end date of the period.

Yep, I see similar. So will I lower my standards? Absolutely not. H-E double hockey sticks can freeze over.

Have at it peeps!

@hbbigdaddy wrote:

Used to be a "period" ran from thursday to wednesday. On mondays, fees would be at least $20 (if not higher) and have MAO turned on.

It's monday and i see the date range goes from "18-22". 22nd is friday. They are still sitting at $15 and no MAO is on.

guess they are truly not going higher (at least not yet) and they have extended the typical end date of the period.

I saw a 5G for $25 today with MAO. I made an offer of 27 and they assigned it to me. I usually do that one for $25.

@eclark3

Well done. Well done. But I have to be honest. I'd first bid at 30, then if it was refused, drop 3 to 27.

But you did good. [Pat on back]

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@eclark3 wrote:

I saw a 5G for $25 today with MAO. I made an offer of 27 and they assigned it to me. I usually do that one for $25.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2025 07:32PM by maverick1.

@eclark3

Where did you see this (city)? What were the dates you saw available? wonder why it was more for that location as opposed to what others are seeing.

They're all $15 here and no MAO.

Yes, all I see if $15 and no MAO. There is one location for $30 in a neighboring state that must be leftover from a previous round... No one is taking the shops at all in my area at $15, just sitting there...

FYI, the Georgia scheduler just told me that going forward 5 Guys will be once a month now, instead of every week. That's probably why the fees have decreased.

MAO turned on today. Yes, sounds like they are cutting back from 52x per year (every week) to 12x per year. Gonna save them a good amount of money.

Hurts the MSC and also hurts those that depended on eating here multiple times per month.

No loss here... it's better for our health.

In fact, this morning I just heard back from my Doctor after an annual visit and bloodwork;

"Your blood cell counts, kidney function, liver function, PSA, and vitamin D levels are all normal. Keep up the good work."

If I ever get a 5 Guys shop again, I'll consider it a treat.

Prost! To your heath.

You don't need the money like those base pay takers do. I got one for $20 recently, so that might be my last one for quite awhile if they truly go down to 1x per month.

I really enjoy their salad burgers (burger in the bowl). I don't eat the fries, so that didn't matter to me, even though i thought they tasted good, i knew they weren't the best thing for me.

@MsJudi wrote:

FYI, the Georgia scheduler just told me that going forward 5 Guys will be once a month now, instead of every week. That's probably why the fees have decreased.

What?

@weatherman2111

I think I remember a post where you said you were near the HQ. Maybe I misread or misinterpreted a prior post. Might be worth it to send your wife your kid into HQ and ask them about the program and it it's true. That way you are not exposing yourself. Unless you have all family members on board shopping these places too

@hbbigdaddy wrote:

@weatherman2111

I think I remember a post where you said you were near the HQ. Maybe I misread or misinterpreted a prior post. Might be worth it to send your wife your kid into HQ and ask them about the program and it it's true. That way you are not exposing yourself. Unless you have all family members on board shopping these places too

You are badly misinterpreting a lot of things. I live near where hey are headquartered so there are a lot of the restaurants near me. That's all. I'm not even married.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/19/2025 06:58PM by weatherman2111.

I was just trying to think of a way that you could find out without exposing yourself since you like to shop them

I see the MAO and other dine in shops but I don't see any delivery shops.

Okay, I just put an offer in for a shop that I was receiving $25 in the past. Here is the reply...

"The Make An Offer was declined.
You can accept the current price or decline the shop or make another offer."

I'm not making any counter offer.

Have at it peeps!

I don't mind taking them at $20 since you won't go under $25 :-P