Roseanne cancelled due to racist remark....
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I dunno. I did not watch the show, I did not experience the remark, and I have no opinion.
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
The remark was causing other members of the show to quit and numerous advertisers to threaten to pull out. Whether the reaction by ABC was too "harsh" or not is irrelevant: It was a business decision. Without the advertisers, the show was no longer going to be profitable. With cast members leaving, the show would have to be rewritten. And, almost certainly, some number of folks were going to stop watching the show, causing ratings to drop - which would further chase advertisers away. As a business decision, ABC likely did not have a choice.
Her remark itself was pretty bad. By being foolish enough to tweet something so blatantly racist, she did the show in on her own - and possibly her career. She will have difficultly finding any work for a while.
Her remark itself was pretty bad. By being foolish enough to tweet something so blatantly racist, she did the show in on her own - and possibly her career. She will have difficultly finding any work for a while.
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I just read the news article on Fox. Wow, that was messed up. The aide she made the remark about was very classy in her response.
"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
Barr's comment was not about Obama. It was about one of his senior advisers. No, I do not think it was too harsh. It was just and deserved. Had the show not been cancelled, advertisers would have pulled their ads, and if not, boycotts would have been imminent. As Disney said, it was the right thing to do. Yes, unfortunate that many lost their job. However, perhaps, they no longer wished to be associated with her anyway.
The comment said if Obama and his assistant had a baby, it would look like a monkey. Good thing she is a nut farmer in Hawaii, has something to fall back on.
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I read the ABC statement. I wonder whether the network response will set a precedent, set a standard, or be a one-time event.
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
This definitely sets a standard, stars will not tweet so openly, afraid to lose their jobs.....many think they can get away with anything, long time coming.
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tn this day of diversity and harassment, I'm sure it is following a set standard. GOOD!
"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
About time the kicked her off their air. Never should have put her on in the first place. She's been long known to be a racist, anti-Semitic, Islamapobe. Now if only they would deny air time to a similar slime - viz. trump.
@Irene_L.A. wrote:
The comment said if Obama and his assistant had a baby, it would look like a monkey. Good thing she is a nut farmer in Hawaii, has something to fall back on.
Actually what she said was something about Muslim brotherhood and planet of the apes having a baby, nothing about Obama. It was really mean and nasty all the same.
But turns out that the show had a 43% decline in viewers since it aired in March. Makes me wonder if it had been a 43% increase instead if they would have dropped her so quickly?
I've never liked her. I don t think she ever was entertaining.
Muslim brotherhood refers to Obama, remember Trump calling him a Muslim (although he's not) saying he wasn't born in the states, and she loves Trump (her downfall).@JASFLALMT wrote:
@Irene_L.A. wrote:
The comment said if Obama and his assistant had a baby, it would look like a monkey. Good thing she is a nut farmer in Hawaii, has something to fall back on.
Actually what she said was something about Muslim brotherhood and planet of the apes having a baby, nothing about Obama. It was really mean and nasty all the same.
But turns out that the show had a 43% decline in viewers since it aired in March. Makes me wonder if it had been a 43% increase instead if they would have dropped her so quickly?
I've never liked her. I don t think she ever was entertaining.
I liked her old show, but thought this one too far out there, they also cancelled all other things she was involved with, she tried to be funny, different time, not funny....
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Actually, Roseanne was referring to the fact that Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran to African American parents.
This morning, heard Valerie Jarrett's response. I may have heard a call in that. Was there ever a time when we should have defended someone else? Should we be available to defend someone else in future, if necessary?
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
Actually her first post (tweet) which started it all referred to Obama being Muslin and VJ being Iranian, she removed it quickly...I have been following the whole thing from beginning. I can't quote it word for word, but she was referring to both Obama and his assistant together. Obama didn't respond and they quieted his part, and she did respond in a very classy way.....@JASFLALMT wrote:
Actually, Roseanne was referring to the fact that Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran to African American parents.
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I think it's an excuse and a chance for some virtue signalling by ABC. The show was stupid and unfunny. More than enough reason to cancel it. If it was really about something said/written offline, we'd never see another episode of NCIS again (Michael Weatherly is FAR more offensive).
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I disagree, loving Michael Weatherly, harsh yes, a racist no.....She (Roseanne) used today's situation for humor, and it didn't work, now she's playing the victim. Guessing if ABC is a Democrat station, she really did offend, not the brightest, but she felt entitled....didn't work, move on.. Kanye saying blacks were not slave's (something like that) brought down the house....just not acceptable any longer. They're making so much money, taking it over the edge isn't working. ABC did sign her on for another 13 weeks.. There is a good lesson in this, maybe she'll find it. Sarah Gilbert was a Producer and is on the Talk, and was really upset over her tweets. The show had 45 million in advertising alone, was a cash cow.
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1. You may not have liked Roseanne, but the show had very high ratings. It was ABC's top show and #2 on television. Cancelling it is a big deal for the network.
2. Michael Weatherly left NCIS a while ago.....
3. I just read Weatherly's Twitter feed - every tweet since early November. I found nothing offensive. I see that he had a DUI arrest in 2015.... Are you talking about the DUI or you are talking about something else? Clearly, I don't follow actors closely enough....
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2. Michael Weatherly left NCIS a while ago.....
3. I just read Weatherly's Twitter feed - every tweet since early November. I found nothing offensive. I see that he had a DUI arrest in 2015.... Are you talking about the DUI or you are talking about something else? Clearly, I don't follow actors closely enough....
@iShop123 wrote:
I think it's an excuse and a chance for some virtue signalling by ABC. The show was stupid and unfunny. More than enough reason to cancel it. If it was really about something said/written offline, we'd never see another episode of NCIS again (Michael Weatherly is FAR more offensive).
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Michael Weatherly is now on the new show "Bull" loosley a show about Dr. Phil who is the producer. Roseanne had huge ratings and was picked up (repeating myself). ABC will replace it, I doubt if her ratings would have continued, it was too politically and race diverse, wasn't funny. She had a black granddaughter
on the show to prove she was liberal, but her true colors came out, or she thought her tweets were funny.
However, I feel for those that lost their jobs through no fault of their own.
on the show to prove she was liberal, but her true colors came out, or she thought her tweets were funny.
However, I feel for those that lost their jobs through no fault of their own.
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Wouldn't a black granddaughter in the character's family indicate more about the show's characters than about Roseanne-the-person?
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
What a disgustingly filthy thing to say!
DJ's wife, Gina (I'm assuming) is the girl on the old Roseanne show that DJ had to kiss in a school play. He didn't want to because she was "different." The show was well done in addressing race relations.
@Shop-et-al wrote:
Wouldn't a black granddaughter in the character's family indicate more about the show's characters than about Roseanne-the-person?
"I told myself to quit you; but I don't listen to drunks." -Chris Stapleton
She claimed that the medication Ambien caused her to make the racist post. I heard that the makers of Ambien issued a statement to the following effect: Like all medications, those that we make have numerous side effects. To date, none of those include racism.
btw, Valerie Jarret's parents were US citizens, working in Iran before the fall of the Shah. Valerie is, by right, an American citizen as are all children of US citizens who happen to be born abroad, as long as the child is duly registered with the US Dept of State.
btw, Valerie Jarret's parents were US citizens, working in Iran before the fall of the Shah. Valerie is, by right, an American citizen as are all children of US citizens who happen to be born abroad, as long as the child is duly registered with the US Dept of State.
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Now. The folks who cancelled the show and the folks at Ambien should prove that they never made any offensive (intentional or unintentional) remark. Can each and every one of those persons do that?
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
Irene: Obama was born in Hawaii, not Iran. The first post that was quickly removed said nothing about Obama. I can quote it word for word. It stated the following: "muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj."
You aren't the only person who has been following the whole thing from the beginning.
You aren't the only person who has been following the whole thing from the beginning.
@Irene_L.A. wrote:
Actually her first post (tweet) which started it all referred both Muslin (Obama) and VJ being Iranian, she removed it quickly...I have been following the whole thing from beginning. I can't quote it word for word, but she was referring to both Obama and his assistant together. Obama didn't respond and they quieted his part, and she did respond in a very classy way.....@JASFLALMT wrote:
Actually, Roseanne was referring to the fact that Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran to African American parents.
JAS, I said Obama was born in Hawaii?????Trump said he was a Muslim, and asked for his birth certificate, read again preferably during the day, (don't put words on my mouth that weren't said), maybe before cocktails. I voted for and know Obama was born in the states, maybe our President didn't know Hawaii was a state.@JASFLALMT wrote:
Irene: Obama was born in Hawaii, not Iran. The first post that was quickly removed said nothing about Obama. I can quote it word for word. It stated the following: "muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj."
You aren't the only person who has been following the whole thing from the beginning.
@Irene_L.A. wrote:
Actually her first post (tweet) which started it all referred both Muslin (Obama) and VJ being Iranian, she removed it quickly...I have been following the whole thing from beginning. I can't quote it word for word, but she was referring to both Obama and his assistant together. Obama didn't respond and they quieted his part, and she did respond in a very classy way.....@JASFLALMT wrote:
Actually, Roseanne was referring to the fact that Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran to African American parents.
However ,Roseanne tweeted and said what was said and it is on the record. I stand by my post and glad they
closed her down.
P.S. Show me where I said Obama was not born in the states...thank you Sweetie.....
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Right below.
@Irene_L.A. wrote:
Actually her first post (tweet) which started it all referred both Muslin (Obama) and VJ being Iranian, she removed it quickly...I have been following the whole thing from beginning.
P.S. Show me where I said Obama was not born in the states...thank you Sweetie.....
I am basing my post on facts and what I have seen on the news and read in articles. I know you believe that somehow this had something to do with Obama, but the only time Obama's name has been mentioned was when it was pointed out in the articles that she was his aide. Roseanne did not mention Obama's name. Now if you can provide some sort of factual substantiation to your claims by posting a link as proof, I will be happy to read it.
That's a pretty rude comment. I assure you I have not been drinking. No need to be rude to me, I wasn't rude to you.
And this whole Roseanne thing has nothing to do with Trump or Obama's birth certificate.
And this whole Roseanne thing has nothing to do with Trump or Obama's birth certificate.
@Irene_L.A. wrote:
Trump said he was a Muslim, and asked for his birth certificate, read again preferably during the day, (don't put words on my mouth that weren't said), maybe before cocktails.
That's garbage.
We all acknowledged that nobody is perfect. However, that does not mean than nobody should be held accountable for wrongdoing. What Roseanne tweeted was abhorrent and clearly racist in meaning. She is simply suffering the natural consequences of her action. I can guarantee that if I were to spout off like Roseanne, I'd be terminated from my job.
Ambien: She brought Sanofi (maker of Ambien) into it. All Sanofi did was state that the medication does not cause racism.
ABC: After Roseanne's remakes, the show was doomed. It was going to lose cast members, advertisers, and viewers. ABC made a good business decision.
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We all acknowledged that nobody is perfect. However, that does not mean than nobody should be held accountable for wrongdoing. What Roseanne tweeted was abhorrent and clearly racist in meaning. She is simply suffering the natural consequences of her action. I can guarantee that if I were to spout off like Roseanne, I'd be terminated from my job.
Ambien: She brought Sanofi (maker of Ambien) into it. All Sanofi did was state that the medication does not cause racism.
ABC: After Roseanne's remakes, the show was doomed. It was going to lose cast members, advertisers, and viewers. ABC made a good business decision.
@Shop-et-al wrote:
Now. The folks who cancelled the show and the folks at Ambien should prove that they never made any offensive (intentional or unintentional) remark. Can each and every one of those persons do that?
Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.
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