I have recently seen two cases of Karma coming around and people are getting what's due them, do you believe in Karma and if so, does it effect your decisions in the moment?

Oooooh. I do not but if it is true a certain temporary resident of DC is in deep do-do.

As my old boss/branch manager used to say about unethical real estate agents, "I pray every day for them. I pray that they get what is coming to them."

Also... "Is there a prayer for the CZAR?"
"Yes. God bless and keep the Czar....far away from here." Fiddler on the Roof



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Yes, I do believe in karma, but I realize I won’t always find out in what ways it affects others. I think it’s important not to be too judgmental of others (as The Bible also says) even when they have wronged me, because it can create bad karma for me. I have seen how karma can affect my own life. Before I believed in karma, there were little decisions I made in haste that were wrong that ended up having both small and large impacts later on. When I looked back I could see how it all played out. So yes, my belief in karma has affected many decisions I have made, for about 33 years now. I’m not a saint but I try to do (and say) what I believe is the right thing whenever possible, which is most of the time. It’s essentially the same as following the Golden Rule. You don’t need to believe in karma, but we should all try to live by The Golden Rule.

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I personally was done wrong, and have lived to see Karma in process, by giving the other person very ill health, while I'm still working, traveling and enjoying (as best I can), Another Karma event is a lady friend that was extremely hard on her daughter, being a perfect person (um hum), Karma came to hit her hard.....yes, in D.C. we will all watch Karma do its work.....higher power does not let anyone get off free.....

Oh yes. I believe and I say that if Karma doesn't take care of it I will come back in my next life and do it myself.

Isn't there a more hopeful or less vengeful aspect of karma? It is about learning. Though some say it happens per person for multiple lifetimes and spans history, I believe in figurative but not literal lifetimes. If things recur until the soul has learned the lessons from them, then a chain or cycle of events ends when the given lesson is learned or the person dies. Their unlearned lessons may impact other or future lives. Of course, there is always something else to learn, and we all have plenty to learn. I hope we learn our lessons well.

Shop-et-al, yes, I believe in that too. Learning to love ourselves enough to make positive choices where we can grow stronger instead of falling into negative behavior patterns that do not advance us spiritually is a lifelong lesson we often have to learn in many ways, and we are all constant works in progress.

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@Irene_L.A. wrote:

I personally was done wrong, and have lived to see Karma in process, by giving the other person very ill health, while I'm still working, traveling and enjoying (as best I can), Another Karma event is a lady friend that was extremely hard on her daughter, being a perfect person (um hum), Karma came to hit her hard.....yes, in D.C. we will all watch Karma do its work.....higher power does not let anyone get off free.....

It’s a bit of a slippery slope to believe karma is responsible for anyone’s poor health. Little children get cancer and other diseases (as well as plenty of very kind hearted adults) and it’s not because of karma. Lots of bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. It’s not for us to know all the ways karma works. Karma is supposed to teach people a better way to live. It’s not just for punishment. Just try be grateful you have your own good health and that these people can’t hurt you anymore.

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You are right (of course), but on a very personal level, I do believe in it....children who have become ill is another story. I'm not saying everything is caused by karma, heavens no, just thought I'd take a very personal approach.
Trust me, I appreciate many things including health, and my family and my spirit and will to enjoy my moments.

And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make

??????

I believe in karma (and vengeance from my higher power), but it plays no role in my decisions. I aim to be a good person all the time.

Irene, I am happy you saw things come full circle!



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I believe in a higher power, and karma is just an extension of that powers works in all our lives. I can't believe in karma the way Irene described it because if that is how it works someone needs to explain all those kids that are born and die with nothing in 3rd world countries. I am pretty sure they didn't do anyone wrong in their very short and painful lives.

@oteixeira wrote:

I believe in a higher power, and karma is just an extension of that powers works in all our lives. I can't believe in karma the way Irene described it because if that is how it works someone needs to explain all those kids that are born and die with nothing in 3rd world countries. I am pretty sure they didn't do anyone wrong in their very short and painful lives.

These atrocities are some of the effects of other people's unlearned lessons. Way back when, or during the relevant time frame, If everyone knew how everything would shake out and that babes would be this way, no one would have proceeded with the various actions that led, ultimately, to these deplorable conditions. Someone did not learn compassion and human logic. Very sad.

Very interesting take @Shop-et-al, I am honestly going to go sit with that for a few days and think on it. Thanks.

No, Karma is a confirmation bias. It is not real. Of course something we perceive as bad will eventually happen to almost anybody, and then we call that karma, but it was not more likely than before.

I don't believe in karma. I also don't believe in sin. I believe in crime which is punishable under the law. I believe in consequences which are natural outcomes of our decisions and actions. I do believe in being the best person I can be and at times i fail miserably. I'm a work in progress and I'm okay with that.

There is 'good' karma as well as 'bad' karma. What comes around goes around. If you follow the Golden Rule of 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' you are good to go. You help people to put them in a better place, in turn you have a good feeling about yourself that you helped someone in need. Helping others lifts your heart, and the persons heart that you helped, therefore the person you help is getting twofold of what you receive. They get the needed assistance and the good feeling of someone helping them. You get the good feeling of unselfishly helping someone. i.e. Someone just unloaded their groceries in their car and start bringing the cart back to the store. You are going in anyway so go on and take the cart for the person. As fate would have it there are no carts available, but since you helped someone you have one.(Good karma) Same scenario but you ignore the person and go on in the store. Guess what, there are no carts available inside the store where they usually are. So you have to either carry your items in your arms or have to go back out and hunt for one in the parking lot.(Bad karma) What comes around goes around.

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Seen on a t-shirt: It's called Karma and it's pronounced Ha-Ha-Ha

And "Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed,"

Reddit.com users believe in karma, big time!

Are we mystery shoppers, aka paid posers, subject to the same types of consequences as the paid posers in activism and intel activities?



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I am witnessing KARMA right now, thank you Dr. Ford. #what comes around goes around.

Karma? Maybe, but I don't think of in those terms. If I were Simon, I would order them all to take ninety three giant steps backwards, find out where they individually went wrong, and stay on the right paths for them now. And never ever ever ever E V E R do those wrong things again. And, never throw another stone or make another accusation. Alas, I am not Simon. But I like this method. This method might be the anti-karma, the stop the madness, or the stop the bleeding approach to conflict resolution in which no one remembers details well enough to document any side of the conflict. Why is anyone attempting to resolve this "conflict" which cannot be identified, quantified, or qualified? Send it back to the nothingness whence it came, according to one new age idea.

I do not care what any of them were like or what any of them did when they were in high school and college. In those years. they were babies in some ways and not living completely as adults. They were laboring under the pressures of school authority and immaturity then. It is more important to consider what has happened since they left all of their college programs, completely entered adulthood, and lived life on the outside of college. In their adult years, have they changed in any ways? Let's see. After law school, Brett Kavanaugh managed to work effectively as an attorney and judge. That is excellent. Christine Blasey-Ford made it out of grad school several times and with several degrees and a gig at Stanford (and, I think, at another school?). That is excellent. Did the others who are providing information have such successes when they grew up? I have not looked into that, so I do not know about them.

How do you feel about the victims of Bill Cosby...I'm not comparing charges, just interested in your opinion, should he have been found guilty although he kept denying until the end.

I did not pay much attention to that. I paid enough attention that I became more and more irritated by the accusations which were unhelpful to most people on the planet. After all, resources already existed for victims to utilize. Someone recently suggested that false information was used against Bill Cosby. I have not looked into that suggestion, so I do not have an opinion about him.

But if there are actual victims, they must "do the work" and deal with their own selves. Karma is not a necessary component of forgiveness, insight, finding out if one had any part at all, or finding out if there is any way that one can now do a little self-advocacy instead of wallowing in victim-ness. Some victims never know who has harmed them, and they have no basis for lawsuits or legal cases. Their wounders may never pay a noticeable price that we can discern. Why should we bother about that, when there are people who are hurting and have no legal recourse? What are those hapless victims to do? They are to do the work. They learn in their own ways, and they go ahead or in new directions. Regardless of any karmic or other retribution for their unknown-to-them wounders, the victims must do the personal work. They are the only ones who can accomplish those individual tasks. It may be monstrously unfair that victims have to do some work in order to have healing and other good things in their lives, but this is the only alternative to avoiding any good that may come of the individual healing journey. No one knows just how the healing will be. Each victim is unique and they may prefer some paths or outcomes over others. But if they want to have the indescribably wonderful payback which is continuing to live instead of being held down by trauma, they must do their own work and keep their lives going. It's a thing.



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I feel sorry for you in your confused closed thinking...however, think of a name change (as you said you wanted).
Being a female doesn't look good on you.

Victims doing the work of healing and perpetrators being held responsible for their crimes are not mutually exclusive. Both can and should happen.

Yes, should is a lovely dream for many. Unfortunately, both conditions cannot exist for many victims. This is why victims can learn that their personal recovery processes can and should be separate from, independent of, and more important than whatever becomes of perps. Perps are responsible for themselves. Victims are not responsible for their perps. Victims are responsible for themselves.

Can't get a trial because the perp has diplomatic immunity, has died, is in hiding, has made a deal for other crimes, used a different identity with you, or some other pesky damned annoyance? Do the work anyway. This is the most important thing for victims to do. Victims, themselves, matter. Nothing, not even revenge, justice, public humiliation, or personal confrontation should be made more important than the selves of victims. If Irene is right and karma is real and what goes around comes around, then life, the universe, or someone will deal with the perps anyway. The exceptions might be victims who reside with perps, are stalked by them, or other situations in which the are not yet separate from their perps. Those are conditions that are for defined specialists. Many victims can find their way, away from their perps.

Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford, self-described possible victim, has not found her way and she has not identified a perp. She has only engaged in public humiliation based upon nothing that could be related to a crime but could be related to a political agenda. Healed persons also do not need to drive politics and agendas to such an extreme extent.



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