Arizona Senator Flake

Senator Flake is retiring after his term is up. I guess he could never be a mystery shopper with his last name. What scheduler would assign jobs to a “flake”!

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Too bad he is retiring. I'd vote for a man with the guts to question beyond merely blindly voting with his party.
Sorry to see him go. He appears to have some integrity beyond staying in line with his party. Arizona has lost 2 admirable Senators this year.

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It's not a question of integrity.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2018 09:08PM by tstewart3.
I love the waiting week and the investigations of the allegations. Keep in mind that the extra week also gives an opportunity to other groups to find answers to questions about the accusers, such as who funds this nonsense, etc. This information will be useful, and if it is known soon enough, there might be a chance that the groundswell of wrong actions can be stopped before women (and others) go so bonkers that they will never be useful again. And, possibly, before we all go to jail or to the slaughterhouse based upon nothing. Here is what I mean. There are famous and other activists who are pushing for a dangerous outcome in which any allegation is as good as a conviction. If you believe that men (or gays, or trans, or assorted skin colors, hair colors, heights, weights, faiths, religions, food preferences, or anyone at all and even everyone) are bad and should be punished, all you have to do is allege that they did something wrong and tptb will destroy them for you. Just now, sex is a biggie. But if they tire of this, or figure out that sex/gender trends will not support broad use of this tactic, they will think of something else upon which to hang everyone they hate. If they decide that they hate you, or me, or your loved one, too bad. You, or I, or your loved one will be disposed of without consequences or corrections. This is not the correct action or response to allegations which probably cannot be substantiated to the point that a legal case and prosecution could occur. That calendar was made... when? During the days of liquid paper and photocopiers? Puh-leez. There are other problems with the lack of sufficient cause and evidence, adn others have written about those issues in other places.

Would it be better for the professor/accuser to seek relevant assistance through known channels than to make allegations that are too broad and, as if that were not narcissistic enough, to hijack a major governing body of the United States in order to announce to all and sundry that she is [inexplicably] above the basic legal requirements for reasonableness and reporting?

Might it be helpful for persons who are processing their situations and traumas to learn from helpful others such as recovery experts and the neuroscientist Caroline Leaf? (The prof from Stanford offers no hope, but neuroscience and other medical insights provide clear explanations of the healing power that results from practiced hope.) Leaf and others teach from knowledge how to do simple things which are personally helpful along the healing journey. None of the lessons is as dramatic as hijacking a Congress... Hmm. Does the prof need a personal healing journey instead of a gig on the world's stage?

Deborah Ramirez was... oh, yes. Self-induced, mind-numbing drunk. This condition is not conducive to reliable reporting, accurate recall, or self-controlled behavior. And, why do we of all people know this? Some shoppers have told interested tales. grinning smiley If we shoppers are required to meet standards when we report, Ms. Ramirez also should meet standards when she reports. She probably cannot do that due to the memory-clouding passage of time, the absence of sobriety during the alleged incident, and other factors which may have been part of her alleged situation.

Would everyone benefit from a standard application of expectation? That is, should males, females, and others be required to demonstrate sufficient cause and other basic legal standards before being given public time in which to air their grievances?

And to maligned system which produced the white males such as the Brett Kavanaughs of the world, kudos. Kavanaugh has demonstrated an outstanding ability to adjudicate. This is necessary for a Supreme Court Justice. Mind you, that very system also produced Michelle and Barack Obama, two attorneys who reigned for two successful terms as President and First Lady of the United States. Does the same old blah-blah from the old-school women's movement need to move over and make way for reality, or at least for other ways of thinking about information?

But, the professional investigators have this. I can do something else now. winking smiley

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
Oh no, not me. I don't love it. I detest it. Let's not make this a political thing, please.

@Shop-et-al wrote:

I love the waiting week
Shop-et-al..your "book writing" is interesting, however, are you on the correct thread?

Live consciously....


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@JASFLALMT wrote:

Oh no, not me. I don't love it. I detest it. Let's not make this a political thing, please.

@Shop-et-al wrote:

I love the waiting week

Too late. sad smiley

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@Irene_L.A. wrote:

Shop-et-al..your "book writing" is interesting, however, are you on the correct thread?

Yes!!! I am not a lawyer, but I believe that some judge, somewhere, might allow my comments, especially if they were in the form of questions. winking smiley Many women have gone mad and, in their loony anger, they are destroying any hope for appropriate relations in any realm of life. When will the other women speak up, speak out, and teach us better ways to be, to behave, and to respond? So far, these activists have shown that college degrees are worthless, women can and do declare themselves exempt from laws of land and life, and they never have to do anything except behave like the @#$%& and bastards they hate. This is just a shift of power. It is not an intelligent motion toward health.

This is extremely sick. It is unfortunate that it is the loudest collective voice at this time.

At some point, the current lunatic activists will have to surrender their claims to use all former wounds as fodder and also stop perpetrating their own acts of committed and omitted wounding. This is the only way for women to have individual and collective health. Continuing in their destructive mode will only hurt all persons and people groups.

Each woman needs to deal with herself. For me, this means limiting my :"books" to just a few per decade or possibly per century grinning smiley and spending more time and energy on my most favorite activities.What does it mean for each other woman? (Where is our resident mathematician? This person might formulate an equation that explains the possible effects of women's behavior change from other-destruction to self-nurturance.)

Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
You are just pissing me off with the insinuation that women who possibly have a legitimate complaint are loony and have gone mad. You have no idea what the truth is, so just stop it.
I'm shocked at your writings..... guess if a trauma hasn't happened to you, you have no sympathy for others.

Live consciously....


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2018 02:07AM by Irene_L.A..
knock it off......woman are finally finding their voice.

Live consciously....


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So how are you, Irene? Maybe we can redirect a little. But on the same vein I do admire your cousin a great deal, BTW.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2018 04:13AM by JASFLALMT.
THX....yes, she has class. I was still in SF when she was Mayor, very honest politician. Everything I write double posts, go figure. I have been watching T.V. in between dental appt's. Thinking the old way that politics and religion shouldn't be discussed seems a thing of the past with everyone's business out there. Whatya been cooking lately?

Live consciously....
I was just thinking of you the past few days...they hsve a new yogurt from Yoplait that is all natural, 15 grams of protein, and only 9 grams of sugar. I've been doing demos with it. The plain has only 1 gram of sugar and 17 g of protein. I've been using it in salad dressings and lots of other stuff at home on my own.
They have different yogurts lactose free and low sugar......I also found lactose pills taken half hour before that work, so once a week I indulge.....there's no good lactose free ice cream. I haven't been cooking, my sink needs the pipes cleaned.

Live consciously....
Those awful women who don't want to be raped or marginalized really need to get a life. Preferably ironing the socks of their men.
I have sympathy for BK & his family for what the left 1/2 of the USA had done to him. Shameful.
@tstewart3, if what he is accused of ends up being true, I have no sympathy for him. All I know for sure right now is he really likes beer, and lied under oath about it being legal when he was in high school.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2018 11:01PM by PaulinMI.
I have no sympathy for him now. I think it's likely he is lying about the incident with Mrs. Ford, but maybe not about the high school drinking thing...because, if he was 18 and a senior, it might have been legal in his state at that time. I know when I was 18 (1980)and living in Florida, the drinking age was 18 at the time, though in earlier years it was 21. It then changed to 19, and shortly after it changed back to 21 again.

I would like to know why, if Mrs. Ford took a polygraph and passed, BK won't do the same. It would help his credibility if he took the test and passed it.
Even if we lay aside the multiple times he has lied under oath and the multiple people he is alledged to have assaulted - which we ought not do - one thing is clear from his testimony: Kavanaugh is not suited to be a judge, much less a justice on the SCOTUS. He is a bitter, mysogonistic, partisan hack.

One can only hope that Sen. Flake holds true to his desire to protect the reputation of both the Senate and the court and blocks confirmation when the Senate votes as a whole.
The drinking age thing as I understand it was when the law was changed in Maryland, if your 18th birthday was before a certain date, you were grandfathered in. BK's birthday fell after that date, so it was illegal for him to be drinking at the time he testified to, and claiming it to be legal. Really, I couldn't care less about that. Though the passion he spoke with for his beer and the other stories worry me in picking a Supreme Court justice. I'm just glad the there is going to be an investigation into the other accusations.

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