@bestofbothworlds wrote:
Hell's bells! If they can work at Bedminster and Mar-a-Lago, they can figure out a way to beat the MSC's IT and HR departments!
@roflwofl wrote:
Of course, if an undocumented immigrant is here illegally already, what's another felony or two?
@azncollege wrote:
If they fall under the DACA program, then they would have a SSN and be able to mystery shop.
@bestofbothworlds wrote:
Hell's bells! If they can work at Bedminster and Mar-a-Lago, they can figure out a way to beat the MSC's IT and HR departments!
Trying to stay in the information realm rather than political commentary:@bgriffin wrote:
Being an undocumented immigrant is rarely a felony. A majority of undocumented immigrants are here because they overstayed their visa. That is actually not a criminal offense in the US. It's not something you can go to jail for. So an undocumented immigrant who overstays their vis is not here illegally and has not committed a felony by being here. If an undocumented immigrant who overstays their visa is found they are simply extradited.
@iShop123 wrote:
The Sassie system verifies your SSN before allowing payment.
@bgriffin wrote:
@roflwofl wrote:
Of course, if an undocumented immigrant is here illegally already, what's another felony or two?
Hopefully this won't be construed as a political post as it's simply a post about legalities but....
Being an undocumented immigrant is rarely a felony. A majority of undocumented immigrants are here because they overstayed their visa. That is actually not a criminal offense in the US. It's not something you can go to jail for. So an undocumented immigrant who overstays their vis is not here illegally and has not committed a felony by being here. If an undocumented immigrant who overstays their visa is found they are simply extradited.
The other major way (but significantly less than half) undocumented immigrants are here is by entering the country without being processed. That is illegal, but in most cases is only a misdemeanor. A huge majority of the ones who are here without being processed also have not committed a felony.
The only way being an undocumented immigrant in the US becomes a felony is if you have been extradited previously and have returned without being processed prior to the end of what is usually a 3 year ban on entering the US. THEN it becomes a felony. But that is a statistically irrelevant number.
@iShop123 wrote:
Trying to stay in the information realm rather than political commentary:@bgriffin wrote:
Being an undocumented immigrant is rarely a felony. A majority of undocumented immigrants are here because they overstayed their visa. That is actually not a criminal offense in the US. It's not something you can go to jail for. So an undocumented immigrant who overstays their vis is not here illegally and has not committed a felony by being here. If an undocumented immigrant who overstays their visa is found they are simply extradited.
It's not a FEDERAL crime, but it is a civil violation of the law (so, yes, illegally -- that's why the legal term is UNLAWFUL presence.) If you overstay a nonimmigrant visa, you have an "unlawful presence" in the United States. If it's for a period of one (1) year or more after the18th birthday, then there is a (10) year penalty under INA section 212(a)(9)( B ). It's far less if you've overstayed less than 180 days.
[/quote]@heartlandcanuck wrote:
Anyone who refers to another person as "an illegal," is dehumanizing them. People may be undocumented, may be working illegally, may have overstayed a visa, may be living here illegally, and so forth. "Illegal," as a noun, is dehumanizing language. Dehumanizing language is a step towards seeing people as inferior, or as less deserving of compassion or basic rights. The people who may be present without documentation, working without authorization, or have overstayed visas are still living, breathing people with thoughts and feelings, hopes and dreams.
quote=Irene_L.A.]
Trump will (now) deport them, it's so over for illegal's.
[/quote]@heartlandcanuck wrote:
Anyone who refers to another person as "an illegal," is dehumanizing them. People may be undocumented, may be working illegally, may have overstayed a visa, may be living here illegally, and so forth. "Illegal," as a noun, is dehumanizing language. Dehumanizing language is a step towards seeing people as inferior, or as less deserving of compassion or basic rights. The people who may be present without documentation, working without authorization, or have overstayed visas are still living, breathing people with thoughts and feelings, hopes and dreams.
quote=Irene_L.A.]
Trump will (now) deport them, it's so over for illegal's.
@iShop123 wrote:
It's not a FEDERAL crime, but it is a civil violation of the law
@tstewart3 wrote:
It is a misdeamonor to enter the country without a visa the first time, a felony a 2nd time. It is not a "statistically irrelevant number".