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Second 2 None SUCKS!

June 23, 2012 01:10PM
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Refusing to pay for jobs completed. Waited over a month to tell me they had an issue with 10 shops I did for them. I sent the information they wanted and still refused to pay me. I have bee told they will use your report and find a problem with your report so they don't have to pay. STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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June 23, 2012 01:20PM
I LOVE Second to None.

They pay promptly, they never write me back for clarification and they have never refused my shopssmiling smiley
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June 23, 2012 01:21PM
What were the issues with your reports?

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June 23, 2012 01:29PM
I have received clarification requests but I respond to them in a timely fashion and there is no problem. I have always gotten paid from them.
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June 23, 2012 01:42PM
They don't ask for clarification often, but as long as it is sent everything works out. They've paid me for everything. On one of more my recent jobs an associate was not at the location and I was still paid in full.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
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June 23, 2012 01:48PM
I did have a problem in April with STN refusing to pay me for two shops I completed - they said that I didn't follow the instructions.

As I recall, there were several people in the forums discussing this; someone (editor? project manager?) at STN had dismissed a large number of reports.

I argued (politely) with STN via email and had my shops reinstated. And was paid the next week.

But - the whole experience HAS made me a little gun-shy. Haven't gone back to do a shop for STN since April.
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June 23, 2012 01:53PM
I have performed a total of 6 shops since mid-December 2011 for this MSC. My quickest payment only took 17 days while my slowest payment was 40 days. I have never had a problem with payment. In fact, I received full payment for a shop where the business had closed just two days earlier.

To have 10 reports declined, I have a feeling that the shopper did not follow the client guidelines. But we would need more information.

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~ Jimi Hendrix

“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain

“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
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June 23, 2012 01:56PM
STN only pays once a month. That said, they pay on timesmiling smiley

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
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June 23, 2012 04:06PM
They were the first company that paid me when I started. Not the first company I worked for but the first to pay.

"It's not THE way, it's just A way"
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June 23, 2012 04:33PM
I have preformed several shop for STN and I enjoy them. When they have shops in my area, I try to get them. They are easy shops normally, reasonable pay, and the reports are pretty easy. I have completed about 20 shops for them nad have not had one issue with them.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2012 06:23PM by ffrieszell.
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June 23, 2012 05:46PM
I have worked several years with 2nd to None with no problems. You had TEN shops with issues? All the same client? What was the issue? Have you contacted your scheduler to understand the issue? We can all provide some guidance but you need to be more specific about your problem if you want help.

Hmmmm....I just looked back at your past posts. You had difficulties with Maritz, ACE, Service Check, and Intellishop, all of whom I like and consider easy to work with. Are there any companies you like?

There are also ICA violations in some of your posts. Revealing the clients of mystery shopping companies violates the independent contractor agreements with companies and the posting guidelines of our forum. I encourage you to go back to your past posts, use the "edit" button and remove client names from your posts.
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June 23, 2012 06:01PM
Now, now. The OP did once post that Beyond Hello was okaywinking smiley But then again there was also a post where he did not receive pay for 10 (yes 10 again) shops from Maritz.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
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June 23, 2012 06:11PM
Well, after discovering that the OP has or is having issues with so many companies NOT accepting his reports... I think it's time to give the same advice I tell my oldest son who seems to get fired from his jobs so frequently:

"If you keep getting fired from your jobs, it's obvious that the problem is not with the companies. I thinks it's time that you took a look at yourself and that will be where the problem lies."

--My "Momism"

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Proud To Be A Soldier's Mom


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2012 06:12PM by r@inyDayZ3.
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June 23, 2012 06:55PM
Should we nominate the OP for the "Shopper of the Month" award? ;-)

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~ Jimi Hendrix

“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain

“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
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June 23, 2012 06:57PM
Let me see, what is that name you are so fond of calling me?

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
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June 23, 2012 07:01PM
LisaSTL, R U talking to me? (in my best DiNiro voice)

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“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix

“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain

“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
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June 24, 2012 12:07AM
I love STN. I have done a ton of shops for them and only a couple of times have I been asked for clarification. I responded promptly and never had an issue. They pay right on time.
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June 24, 2012 12:56AM
I had two Second to None shops rejected recently. One was totally my fault (I went to the wrong location on a university campus). The second was kind of a ticky-tacky rejection, but probably my fault as well.

In one of their client sandwich shops, you had to order a build-your-own sub. I didn't ask what was on the build your own sub, just told the sandwich maker what I wanted. Wrong. Somehow it just seems too weird to say I'd like to build my own sub, and then ask what comes on it!

But, live and learn. I had to eat those shops (pun intended).

Second to None has always paid me promptly. The sandwich shops are a good gig if you can work them into other area shops on the same day. Easy reports.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2012 04:36AM by sportsed1.
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June 24, 2012 01:15AM
I've performed more than 20 of their shops and never had an issue. However, I think the core of this bloggers issue is the number of rejected reports. I've shopped for 6 years and had 2 reports rejected (wrong location and forgot to ask a question). To have 10 reports rejected from more than one company means mystery shopping may not be a good fit for the shopper. That or reporting. Maybe he/she can have someone input the results for him/her.
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June 24, 2012 01:18AM
jimntx3 - Lots of good companies aren't paying for your reports. That's a clue you're missing the guidelines. Pay close attention to what they want, and don't deviate from the guidelines. They pay for what they want, not for whatever you decide to do.

Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
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June 24, 2012 02:09AM
sportsed1 Wrote:
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> I had two Second to None shops rejected recently.
> One was toally my fault (I went to the wrong
> location on a university campus). The second was
> kind of a ticky-tacky rejection, but probably my
> fault as well.
>
> In one of their client sandwich shops, you had to
> order a build-your-own sub. I didn't ask what was
> on the build your owb sub, just told the sandwich
> maker what I wanted. Wrong. Somehow it just seems
> too wierd to say I'd like to build my own sub, and
> then ask what comes on it!
>
> But, live and learn. I hate to eat those shops
> (pun intended).
>
> Second to None has always paid me promptly. The
> sandwich shops are a good gig if you can work them
> into other area shops on the same day. Easy
> reports.

The reason they want you to ask the sandwich maker what is on the sandwich, is to see if he/she will give a "descriptive" explanation such as : warm melted cheese, sauteed mushrooms, thinly sliced turkey, crisp fresh lettuce. smiling smiley
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June 24, 2012 02:30AM
I do get that. I've done six of these shops. Never once has the sandwich maker been descriptive. When and if they do, I'm ready for it
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June 24, 2012 03:54AM
I'm sorry. Could you be a little more specific in how you feel about Second to None? I'm just not understanding. winking smiley

BTW, no problems for me. Ever.
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June 24, 2012 04:09AM
AlwaysAngie Wrote:
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> I'm sorry. Could you be a little more specific in
> how you feel about Second to None? I'm just not
> understanding. winking smiley
>
> BTW, no problems for me. Ever.


7 years with minimal grief. Really, they waited a month.?? That seems almost impossible, since they have to get the reports to the clients within days. If we do not hear back from you, I, for one, will assume that this is a flakey post. We will not be staying away as they are an upstanding MSC and pay on time.
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June 24, 2012 05:30AM
What?!!!! You mean the managers don't met up for happy hour and discuss the employees?....LOL This same rule applies to children with behavior problems. The teachers don't have time to call the former school to plan and plot on picking on kids.


r@inyDayZ3 Wrote:
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> Well, after discovering that the OP has or is
> having issues with so many companies NOT accepting
> his reports... I think it's time to give the same
> advice I tell my oldest son who seems to get fired
> from his jobs so frequently:
>
> "If you keep getting fired from your jobs, it's
> obvious that the problem is not with the
> companies. I thinks it's time that you took a
> look at yourself and that will be where the
> problem lies."
>
> --My "Momism"
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June 24, 2012 08:58PM
sporsed1: If you look at the directions, you have to choose ANOTHER sandwich on the menu and ask about it. Then you order the build your own sandwich. You don't ask about the sandwich you are actually ordering.
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June 24, 2012 09:09PM
I did the sandwich shop for them 8 days ago and received this yesterday:

What time did you enter the line?

What time did you finish stating the type of sub/salad you wanted at the submaker station?

What time was your transaction complete? (You have paid AND you have your entire order)

Did your sub go through the toaster/warmer?

When did you first order your fountain drink?

Had the employee offered you a drink or combo at that point? Please explain.

I answered ALL these question when I filled out the form. It won't accept the report if these questions are not answered!! Not worth the hassle for $9.00 to have to answer the same quesions again, especially 8 days later.
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June 24, 2012 09:16PM
To both Karen IL and sun&fun: I have performed several of these shops but some of my questions and timings were different from what you two have posted. And all of reports have been accepted and I have been paid for everything except a recent June shop. I have even received my bonuses.

Does anyone know if MSC's have different forms/reports for the same client but in different states? I would think that would be confusing to the editors.

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“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix

“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain

“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
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June 24, 2012 09:27PM
sportsed1 Wrote:
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> I do get that. I've done six of these shops. Never
> once has the sandwich maker been descriptive. When
> and if they do, I'm ready for it


I have not had one employee yet being descriptive eithersmiling smiley..I always answer "no"...

I just wish just one person would say "Virgina baked ham, with melted provolone cheese and a hint of oil and vinegar." lol...
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June 24, 2012 09:41PM
STN is a very good company. I normally do about 45-60 shops for them each month and have never had any problems. Over the past year I have had a couple of shops rejected, but they were my own error. Some of their office supply shops will bite you if you don't carefully read the instructions.
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