SHOPPERS BEWARE of BRG & Summit Scheduling

The following is the last letter sent to a scheduler at Summit Scheduling after they refused to compensate me for a shop performed for BRG.

Ms. Summit Scheduler:

Please be aware that my stance has not changed regarding this matter nor did the error and subsequent modification of the assignment, by your client, make performing this shop easier as claimed in your last electronic mail. In the contrary, your clients error regarding the employee to be targeted coupled with the modification of the assignment, after it had already commenced, put me at risk of losing my anonymity as a shopper. As such, I am due compensation for the shop I did indeed perform for BRG.

As you are already aware I spoke to Mr. John Doe of BRG on September 19, 2012 at 3:44 p.m. EST as I was in the field and did not have access to the internet so that I could contact you directly. However, my entire discussion with Mr. Doe was not communicated to you as it was only necessary to respond to your electronic mail stating that my shop was overdue. Be informed, that in addition to granting a one (1) day extension for this shopping assignment that Mr. Doe additionally authorized me to telephone this agency after 4:00 p.m., despite the guidelines of the shop, as it had been communicated that the targeted employee would be in meetings until approximately 4:15 p.m. Furthermore, Mr. Doe further changed the guidelines of the assignment by advising that once the target had been reached that I should state, if asked, that I had only wished to speak to the target as she had come highly recommended by an acquaintance of mine. I was further instructed to only give a fictitious first name of an acquaintance and state that I would telephone at a later time with the acquaintances last name, if need be.

As you are privy to the recorded communications made to this agency I would suggest that you listen to all four (4) of the discussions had, if you have not already done so. As previously communicated, via electronic mail, during my fourth (4th) telephonic contact with this agency I was put on hold by the target and my call was responded to by another agent who I had previously spoken with and moreover had previously denied her offer of assistance. As you are also aware, based upon our written communications, that this particular agent referred to me by utilizing my complete name stating "Is this Ms. ...". Further, despite my request that I continue my conversation with the targeted employee I was informed that the target did not furnish such information so once again the communication was ended politely giving a plausible excuse.

I find it utterly bewildering how you can state that your clients error related to the target for this assignment in addition to the clients subsequent modification of this assignment in fact made this assignment easier for me to complete based upon the following:

1. Numerous attempts were made to reach the specific target who I later found out was unable to furnish the information being sought as it was not within the realm of her job description.

2. That I spoke with every agent, in this very small agency, and had further declined assistance from each and every one them as this assignment was target specific.

3. That this agency requires that all blocked calls be unblocked prior to accepting telephonic communications so that they may monitor exactly who is calling.

4. That this shop required that I furnish true and correct personal information regarding myself, such as my home address, in order to receive the information being sought by the client. Therefore, if discovered as a Mystery Shopper this company would not only have my full name and telephone number from their caller ID but other personal information such as my home address, social security number and the like.

5. That your client furnished erroneous target information and then expected that this assignment could be modified, after it had commenced, and still be completed by the same shopper. Furthermore, as it is commonplace that businesses ask how a potential customer has been referred what plausible explanation would I have given if asked why I had attempted to contact the same agent several times over such a short period of time. Would I have followed the instructions for this shop by stating that I saw her name online, in an ad or the like? I think not, as the targeted employee does not even furnish information as was detailed by this assignment. Should I have utilized the suggestion of your colleague, Mr. Doe, and stated that I had been recommended by an acquaintance to conduct business with this particular employee? Once again, I think not as it is highly unlikely that one would be referred to an employee who is incapable of providing the assistance needed. Furthermore, please note that during the fourth (4th) recorded conversation that I was immediately addressed by both my first and my last name although I had not yet been asked for this information. Further, the next statement made by the employee was not the customary "how may I help you" but an inquiry as to how I had been referred to this location. Without question the aforementioned is not commonplace when contacting a business strictly for informational purposes.


As a scheduler you must be aware that once a shopper is outed as a Mystery Shopper they are not compensated for efforts put forth to complete an assignment nor is the shopper generally assigned future shops with the Mystery Shopping Company in question. Additionally, the "outed" shoppers circumstances may not remain only with the Mystery Shopping Company where the assignment was to be completed as schedulers often schedule assignments for numerous MSC's, as is the case here, thereby hindering future earnings for the shopper with other shopping companies.

Moreover, as previously communicated, no shoppers anonymity should ever be compromised due to an error caused by the client nor should this type of behavior be condoned by Mystery Shopping Companies and/or their schedulers. Let it be understood that I upheld my contractual duties, as per the original assignment, and it is not due to any error on my part that this assignment could not be completed. Therefore, your refusal to compensate me appropriately for my efforts is without merit.

This assignment which compensated only a mere $15.00 has to date rendered four (4) recorded calls to reach the targeted employee, one (1) telephone call to BRG as you did not provide a contact telephone number for yourself at Summit Scheduling and fifteen (15) electronic mails. Therefore, as promised if your stance remains unchanged after receipt of this communication then my very unfortunate shopping experience with BRG and Summit Scheduling will be shared with other shoppers, so that hopefully they can prevent the same, in addition to my taking any and all other necessary measures to be compensated appropriately. As such, this matter is closed to any further discussion and/or debate.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!

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MissyH71 Wrote:
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> 1,159 words for a $15.00 shop fee?
>
> Why?


Very simply, to share my very unfortunate shopping experience with BRG and Summit Scheduling so that other shoppers could avoid this situation.

It's not just a matter of the compensation ... it's the principle that counts! When a shopper performs an assignment they deserve to be paid!

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
I've worked with Judith Gill, the owner of Summit Scheduling for several years and always found her not just professional but fair. Did you try to contact her directly?
suzieboz Wrote:
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> I've worked with Judith Gill, the owner of Summit
> Scheduling for several years and always found her
> not just professional but fair. Did you try to
> contact her directly?


Yes, I've recently contacted Ms. Gill. As such, I'm awaiting a response.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
This is Judith from Summit Scheduling. I have never received a communication from you about an issue with BRG, so that is not accurate information. I have no idea who you even are, since you are hiding behind a forum nickname.

Your quite wordy post is intended to elicit some response, but let me make one thing perfectly clear: Summit NEVER pays shoppers. The end client always pays the shoppers. If you have an issue with your shop being accepted for some reason, that is not something we can control. Our contract with every client ends when the shop goes into editing. Either the shop is accepted, or it's not and we are asked to schedule it again. We normally don't even see the shop contents once it enters editing.

Why you would 1) not contact me and then 2) come here and say that you did is beyond me. I can assure you that if I had received anything like the above in my email, I would certainly remember it.

Owner
Summit Scheduling and Editing
Summit Scheduling Wrote:
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> This is Judith from Summit Scheduling. I have
> never received a communication from you about an
> issue with BRG, so that is not accurate
> information. I have no idea who you even are,
> since you are hiding behind a forum nickname.
>
> Your quite wordy post is intended to elicit some
> response, but let me make one thing perfectly
> clear: Summit NEVER pays shoppers. The end
> client always pays the shoppers. If you have an
> issue with your shop being accepted for some
> reason, that is not something we can control. Our
> contract with every client ends when the shop goes
> into editing. Either the shop is accepted, or
> it's not and we are asked to schedule it again.
> We normally don't even see the shop contents once
> it enters editing.
>
> Why you would 1) not contact me and then 2) come
> here and say that you did is beyond me. I can
> assure you that if I had received anything like
> the above in my email, I would certainly remember
> it.

Ms. Gill:

You were indeed contacted via electronic mail. The following has been attached as proof of that fact, omitting my personal e-mail address:

To judith@summitscheduling.com
From:
Sent: Tue 9/25/12 12:42 PM

Do you deny having a scheduler by the name of Ms. Roberts who is the reason that this matter has been brought to this forum? Will you also deny that I was scheduled and subsequently performed a shop for a location on both September 19th & 20th for BRG? Be advised that I have proof of the aforementioned but due to client confidentiality I cannot post the proof on this forum.

In the contrary, I will be in contact with the MSPA regarding this matter.

A fellow shopper previously posed the question of "Why" for just a $15.00 shop - well I hope now that it is understood that this type of dishonest behavior is exactly why!!!

Lastly, unlike suzieboz I find you, Ms. Gill, to be neither professional nor fair not to mention honest.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
It seems the email to Judith was apparently sent less than an hour before she responded, so I would say there is a fair chance she had not even gotten to reading it yet. Schedulers get a lot of email.

@promysteryshopper66; I'm guessing from your post that you were never actually able to make contact with the target, so they shop was never actually performed or submitted...correct?

Is your issue that you were assigned a shop that was impossible to complete and want to be remunerated for the time spent?
Hi Everyone! Well this is interesting and I do have to say this shopper did warn me. LOL The shopper did not fully follow the instuctions and so the client told me to advise the shopper she would not be paid.

The shopper did have a target to reach but was having trouble and was finally told that her target did not handle the type of calls we complete anymore. I immediately contacted BRG and they contacted the end client. It was handed back to me from the end client through BRG that the shopper could then simply ask anyone to complete the assignment. A quote is required for payment for these assignments and that is clearlyl laid out in the instructions. The shopper then decided she did not want to call again (even though removing the target made this an EASIER phone call assignment) and requested to be paid.

Here are excertps from mine and the shoppers emails and she can attest nothing is altered.

In this email, the shopper let me know she would try 3 more times to reach the target:

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Hello Ms. Roberts,

Thank you for your prompt response. If for any reason I am unable to reach the targeted employee today after three attempts I'll inform you accordingly

*******************

Below is when I let her know she can ask for ANYONE and not the target.

*******************************
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:37:35 -0500
Hi _____________!

My boss called the agent and I have been told to remove the target. My boss said if you could call back and speak to whomever answers for an auto-quote (so you can get the quote) and to simply ask for a cheaper rate than what you currently have.

Thanks!

Deva Roberts

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Ok this is the last part of one of her emails where she is 'letting me know' she better be paid even though she's letting me know she will NOT call back.

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However, as I attempted to perform this shop in good faith and it was your client that decided, after four (4) attempts had been made, to modify this assignment that I should nonetheless be compensated according to contractual agreement. Please forward this electronic mail to your supervisor on my behalf.

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I emailed her this below after receiving the above email and passing her email to the owner of BRG. I was told by BRG that she would not be paid and I had to pass that information along to the shopper and also why she would not be paid.

BTW the part that starts with the "**" was pulled directly from the shoppers instructions where it states a quote must be received in order for the shopper to be paid. Those entire 4 lines I copied and pasted straight from the instructions. ( have ____ to remove end client information)

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I'm sorry but you will not be compensated for this assignment as you did not fully complete the assignment.

In the email below, you state that you want to make sure BRG honors the 'contractual agreement'. In the instructions, it states (mid-way on the 2nd page):

**YOU MUST OBTAIN A QUOTE FOR THE SHOP TO BE VALID- We can not accept a shop report where a quote was not obtained. If you were calling the agent back to get your quote and can not reach them, do NOT submit your report with “Could not get agent on a second call so no quote was given”. If you are having trouble with your shop, email me and I will walk you through the next step.

When it was realized that your target did not take ____ quotes any more, my boss contacted that _____________ office to find out how to proceed. The assignment was actually made EASIER because now, you would not have to ask for ANYONE in particular - simply get a quote from whomever you talked to.

When I emailed you yesterday morning letting you know I would find out about the target, you responded that you would try three more times. Then when I let you know that you didn't have to ask for the target any more, you decided not to make any more calls and wanted to be paid even though you did not complete the assignment correctly.


Thanks!

Deva Roberts

Thanks!

Deva Roberts, Scheduler
Summit Scheduling & Editing Services

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Your post above time stamped 10:55 am says you "recently contacted me" and then you copied in something that said you emailed me at 12:42 pm. Which is it?

I contacted my scheduler this morning and asked for copies of the correspondence with you, which all happened almost a week ago. But today you chose to come to this forum and post contradictory information about something from last week, slamming my company BEFORE you ever contacted me. I'm sorry if you find me unprofessional, but I find you the same way. You can contact the MSPA all you want, but your story does not add up.

Owner
Summit Scheduling and Editing
To clear up the time stamp issue on the posts; Those can vary depending on your computer and time zone set. Mine all display EST, so I see the OP saying they sent an email at 12:42 PM and then posting about it at 12:55 PM.

I would say that Summit has certainly responded to the complaint in a timely manner, however. The shop was turned from a targeted to non-targeted shop and the shopper refused to perform the shop within the guidelines when given the option, so I don't see the point of the complaint.

It would have been less work at that point to simply finish the shop within the required specifications than compose a diatribe about the unprofessionalism of these companies.
SteveSoCal Wrote:
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> It seems the email to Judith was apparently sent
> less than an hour before she responded, so I would
> say there is a fair chance she had not even gotten
> to reading it yet. Schedulers get a lot of
> email.
>
> @promysteryshopper66; I'm guessing from your post
> that you were never actually able to make contact
> with the target, so they shop was never actually
> performed or submitted...correct?
>
> Is your issue that you were assigned a shop that
> was impossible to complete and want to be
> remunerated for the time spent?


My original issue was based upon the fact that I did indeed reach the targeted employee after four (4) recorded attempts over a two day period. The following is what transpired (excerpt from my original post follows)

"I was put on hold by the target and my call was responded to by another agent who I had previously spoken with and moreover had previously denied her offer of assistance. As you are also aware, based upon our written communications, that this particular agent referred to me by utilizing my complete name stating "Is this Ms. ..." ? Further, despite my request that I continue my conversation with the targeted employee I was informed that the target did not furnish such information so once again the communication was ended politely giving a plausible excuse".

Deva Roberts was informed of the before mentioned and subsequently responded by stating that the original shop assignment had been modified, after it had already commenced, due to the clients error relating to the targeted employee. For some bizzare reason Ms. Roberts and Ms. Gill are under the false assumption that modifying a shop assignment once a shopper has already commenced is acceptable - and it is not!

It is no secret that I refused the modified assignment, in order to be compensated a mere $15.00, and the reasons behind the decision are very well detailed in my original post. It is absolutely ridiculous of a scheduler to ask a shopper to re-shop the same assignment, within 24 hours, once that shopper is known at that location. I have never been detected as a Mystery Shopper to date and I was most certainly not going to let Summit Scheduling put me in that position.

My newest issue with Summit Scheduling is Ms. Gill's utter unprofessionalism. It is well known that schedulers receive alot of e-mail as stated by SteveSoCal and I would imagine that MSC owners receive their fair share as well. However, Ms. Gill's adamant written claim, on this forum, stating that she had NEVER received any communication from me is rather disturbing as anyone who is indeed a true professional would at the very minimum review their e-mails before making such a claim. It is also rather ironic that after my response to her untrue posting that within a blink of an eye both she and her scheduler knew exactly who I was. Furthermore, unlike the claim previously made by Ms. Gill it was an e-mail from Ms. Roberts, not BRG, that informed me that based upon the decision of her boss that I would not be paid.

Being denied compensation because a shop could not be fully completed due to a client error is wrong when the shopper has shopped in good faith as per the assignments guidelines! Further, being denied the contractual compensation because one would not agree to a modified shop assignment, after commencement, is equally wrong!


So the long of the short of it is, that I firmly maintain that I should be compensated appropriately.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
SteveSoCal Wrote:
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> To clear up the time stamp issue on the posts;
> Those can vary depending on your computer and time
> zone set. Mine all display EST, so I see the OP
> saying they sent an email at 12:42 PM and then
> posting about it at 12:55 PM.
>
> I would say that Summit has certainly responded to
> the complaint in a timely manner, however. The
> shop was turned from a targeted to non-targeted
> shop and the shopper refused to perform the shop
> within the guidelines when given the option, so I
> don't see the point of the complaint.
>
> It would have been less work at that point to
> simply finish the shop within the required
> specifications than compose a diatribe about the
> unprofessionalism of these companies.

The complaint is simple ...

"It is absolutely ridiculous of a scheduler to ask a shopper to re-shop the same assignment, within 24 hours, once that shopper is known at that location. I have never been detected as a Mystery Shopper to date and I was most certainly not going to let Summit Scheduling put me in that position".

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
Summit Scheduling Wrote:
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> Your post above time stamped 10:55 am says you
> "recently contacted me" and then you copied in
> something that said you emailed me at 12:42 pm.
> Which is it?
>
> I contacted my scheduler this morning and asked
> for copies of the correspondence with you, which
> all happened almost a week ago. But today you
> chose to come to this forum and post contradictory
> information about something from last week,
> slamming my company BEFORE you ever contacted me.
> I'm sorry if you find me unprofessional, but I
> find you the same way. You can contact the MSPA
> all you want, but your story does not add up.

Ms. Gill:

Did it not occur to you that I may not be in the same time zone as the server for this website forum. Thereby explaining the time differences of the electronic mail that you did indeed receive and the post that I made to this forum ???

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
IMO, reason and substance trump attitude and verbosity. YMMV.

Some of the posts in this thread remind me of an old trick some law firms use when they are required to provide documents to the other side (discovery). Bury the incriminating document(s) in hundreds or thousands of other documents.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2012 01:15AM by BusyBeeBuzzBuzzBuzz.
I am sorry it has all led to this. Again, in the instructions that has my contact information on it, it says if you are having trouble to contact me and I will let you know the next step. Trouble happened, you contacted me, I let you know the next step.

This is actually a common occurance (at least a few times a month, there has been a change in the target - having to ask for someone else or no particular target and we do not know until the shopper has called the location).



Here again are from the instructions:

**YOU MUST OBTAIN A QUOTE FOR THE SHOP TO BE VALID- We can not accept a shop report where a quote was not obtained. If you were calling the agent back to get your quote and can not reach them, do NOT submit your report with “Could not get agent on a second call so no quote was given”. If you are having trouble with your shop, email me and I will walk you through the next step.

Thanks!

Deva Roberts, Scheduler
Summit Scheduling & Editing Services

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Summit Scheduling Wrote:
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> Your post above time stamped 10:55 am says you
> "recently contacted me" and then you copied in
> something that said you emailed me at 12:42 pm.
> Which is it?
>
> I contacted my scheduler this morning and asked
> for copies of the correspondence with you, which
> all happened almost a week ago. But today you
> chose to come to this forum and post contradictory
> information about something from last week,
> slamming my company BEFORE you ever contacted me.
> I'm sorry if you find me unprofessional, but I
> find you the same way. You can contact the MSPA
> all you want, but your story does not add up.


Ms. Gill:

Once again you are in error as it was not today that I choose to come to this forum regarding this matter. As you have already checked the date and time stamps of my posts made today why haven't you done the same regarding my original post concerning this matter.

Indeed I may be wordy however that has earned me 10/10 with the majority of MSC's that I shop for. That being said, if you had taken the time to fully read my "wordy" letter, that was specifically addressed to your attention, then you would know that I stated to Ms. Roberts, well before my original post, that I would share this very unpleasant experience with other shoppers so that they could avoid the same.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
promysteryshopper66,

You are also modifying the assignment by asking to get paid without the supplied quote, so how is that any different from what Summit was asking? They offered you an option to get you paid and you refused because you didn't like the conditions. I would argue that it's within your right to reject the shop once it was modified, but then you should also be willing to forfeit the payment.

Here's the moral to this story: Things like this can be worked out of you are communicative, professional and understanding with each other. Going to battle over $15 for what boils down to a difference of opinion seems like a waste of resources, IMHO. Myself, I would have secured the quote from the person who offered when the targeted employee transferred me, since that seems to fit the bill of reaching the target AND getting a quote. Outside of that, there is always the option of using a different phone to call in from as well if you were concerned about being made on a repeat call.

The issue is not the $15, really, but the future payments you are forfeiting in not working with over MSCs that Summit schedules for...
DevaSSE Wrote:
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> I am sorry it has all led to this. Again, in the
> instructions that has my contact information on
> it, it says if you are having trouble to contact
> me and I will let you know the next step. Trouble
> happened, you contacted me, I let you know the
> next step.
>
> This is actually a common occurance (at least a
> few times a month, there has been a change in the
> target - having to ask for someone else or no
> particular target and we do not know until the
> shopper has called the location).
>
>
>
> Here again are from the instructions:
>
> **YOU MUST OBTAIN A QUOTE FOR THE SHOP TO BE
> VALID- We can not accept a shop report where a
> quote was not obtained. If you were calling the
> agent back to get your quote and can not reach
> them, do NOT submit your report with “Could not
> get agent on a second call so no quote was
> given”. If you are having trouble with your
> shop, email me and I will walk you through the
> next step.


Ms. Roberts:

I reinerate that "It is absolutely ridiculous of a scheduler to ask a shopper to re-shop the same assignment, within 24 hours, once that shopper is known at that location. I have never been detected as a Mystery Shopper to date and I was most certainly not going to let Summit Scheduling put me in that position".

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
promysteryshopper66 Wrote:
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> MissyH71 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1,159 words for a $15.00 shop fee?
> >
> > Why?
>
>
> Very simply, to share my very unfortunate shopping
> experience with BRG and Summit Scheduling so that
> other shoppers could avoid this situation.
>
> It's not just a matter of the compensation ...
> it's the principle that counts! When a shopper
> performs an assignment they deserve to be paid!

I think you wasted alot of (breath) and words on this shop.

Move on.
promysteryshopper66 Wrote:
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> I have never been detected
> as a Mystery Shopper to date and I was most
> certainly not going to let Summit Scheduling put
> me in that position.

Well...now you've been detected as a someone who is argumentative and difficult to work with :^)
Well, after reading this thread, I do know how to avoid this situation.

Don't act like promysteryshopper66 did/does.

Not going to waste any more of my time in this thread.
Also, OP, think how LONG it took you to write that letter above, along with the shop itself, YOUR gas, time, wear and tear, paper, ink, time to enter the report, photos, receipts... Isn't it time to call it a "wash?" smiling smiley
SteveSoCal Wrote:
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> promysteryshopper66,
>
> You are also modifying the assignment by asking to
> get paid without the supplied quote, so how is
> that any different from what Summit was asking?
> They offered you an option to get you paid and you
> refused because you didn't like the conditions. I
> would argue that it's within your right to reject
> the shop once it was modified, but then you should
> also be willing to forfeit the payment.
>
> Here's the moral to this story: Things like this
> can be worked out of you are communicative,
> professional and understanding with each other.
> Going to battle over $15 for what boils down to a
> difference of opinion seems like a waste of
> resources, IMHO. Myself, I would have secured the
> quote from the person who offered when the
> targeted employee transferred me, since that seems
> to fit the bill of reaching the target AND getting
> a quote. Outside of that, there is always the
> option of using a different phone to call in from
> as well if you were concerned about being made on
> a repeat call.
>
> The issue is not the $15, really, but the future
> payments you are forfeiting in not working with
> over MSCs that Summit schedules for...

SteveSoCal,

I must respectfully disagree with you as four recorded calls were made and it was determined that the target could NOT give the quote. As such, I was not contractually obligated to accept a modified assignment in order to be compensated for the numerous efforts that had already been made for this assignment. I performed the assignment as required and it is certainly no fault of mine that I could not get a quote from an employee who was not authorized to provide such information. Moreover, what Summit Scheduling actually offered me by requiring that I re-shop a modified assignment, at the same location within a 24 period, was no more than the opportunity to lose my anonymity as I was already known at this location.

Further, if I understand you correctly then I should just chalk this all up to my being asked to perform an assignment that was impossible to accomplish from the start. As though it is not bad enough that no written forewarning was given before accepting this shop that errouneous targets are sometimes given to shoppers for these assignments. Why wasn't the aforementioned tidbit included in the shop description, as this information was already known by Summit Scheduling, so that shoppers could make an informed decision BEFORE accepting the assignment? See Ms. Roberts most recent post regarding the aforementioned confirming the same. Or perhaps, I should just accept that my time spent calling the targeted employee in addition to documenting information from each call over a two period does not merit compensation. I don't know about you but I certainly do not enjoy working for free!

However, I do agree with you that this issue is not just about $15.00 but is rather based upon principle. When shoppers shop they should be paid - no excuses! And as stated in my OP "... no shoppers anonymity should ever be compromised due to an error caused by the client nor should this type of behavior be condoned by Mystery Shopping Companies and/or their schedulers".

This is the first, and believe you me, the last shop that I will ever schedule with Summit Scheduling. Further, before this unfortunate situation with SS I was indeed capable of scheduling my monthly assignments with other reputable MSC's therefore not utilizing Summit Scheduling will not affect my overall earnings nor my enthusiasm for Mystery Shopping.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
I'm confused. All I keep reading is how phone calls were made. Did you visit the site in person or were these just calls? If they were just calls were you required to use your real name or was an alias acceptable?

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
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DevaSSE Wrote:
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> I am sorry it has all led to this. Again, in the
> instructions that has my contact information on
> it, it says if you are having trouble to contact
> me and I will let you know the next step. Trouble
> happened, you contacted me, I let you know the
> next step.
>
> This is actually a common occurance (at least a
> few times a month, there has been a change in the
> target - having to ask for someone else or no
> particular target and we do not know until the
> shopper has called the location).
>
>
>
> Here again are from the instructions:
>
> **YOU MUST OBTAIN A QUOTE FOR THE SHOP TO BE
> VALID- We can not accept a shop report where a
> quote was not obtained. If you were calling the
> agent back to get your quote and can not reach
> them, do NOT submit your report with “Could not
> get agent on a second call so no quote was
> given”. If you are having trouble with your
> shop, email me and I will walk you through the
> next step.

Ms. Roberts:

As it is actually a common occurence that errouneous targets are supplied for these shops, as you stated above, would it had not been prudent of Summit Scheduling to include this important information in the shop description so that shoppers could make an informed decision BEFORE committing to such an assignment?

Quite honestly, if the before mentioned information had been provided this forum discussion would not have been necessitated as I would have NEVER accepted such an assignment!

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
SteveSoCal Wrote:
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> promysteryshopper66 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have never been detected
> > as a Mystery Shopper to date and I was most
> > certainly not going to let Summit Scheduling
> put
> > me in that position.
>
> Well...now you've been detected as a someone who
> is argumentative and difficult to work with :^)


LOL (: You have no idea what I'm like when I wish to be argumentative. Here, I am just simply providing the facts based upon a bad experience that I had with Summit Scheduling.

However, tagging me as "hard to work with" how could you possibly know? Have I worked for your MSC and you found this to be the case? I think not.

Sharing one's story and rebuting falsehoods hardly makes one argumentative and/or hard to work with.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
LisaSTL Wrote:
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> I'm confused. All I keep reading is how phone
> calls were made. Did you visit the site in person
> or were these just calls? If they were just calls
> were you required to use your real name or was an
> alias acceptable?


Real name, birthdate, current home address and social security number were among the requirements.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
promysteryshopper66 Wrote:
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> I performed the
> assignment as required and it is certainly no
> fault of mine that I could not get a quote from an
> employee who was not authorized to provide such
> information. Moreover, what Summit Scheduling
> actually offered me by requiring that I re-shop a
> modified assignment, at the same location within a
> 24 period, was no more than the opportunity to
> lose my anonymity as I was already known at this
> location.


Did your agreement have a stipulation that you would paid after 4 unsuccessful attempts to get a quote? If not, you are simply not owed the money. It's black and white as far as I'm concerned. It's not your fault that the employee was unshoppable, but the shop was not performed as required, despite you insisting that it was.

If I hire you to build a bridge and while you are attempting to get a building permit, you discover bridges are not legally allowed to be built in the specified location, do I still owe you the fee for building the bridge? Not unless it's in the contract...

As for as your reputation; It's pretty easy to discern your argumentative nature from the posts.
SteveSoCal Wrote:
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> promysteryshopper66 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I performed the
> > assignment as required and it is certainly no
> > fault of mine that I could not get a quote from
> an
> > employee who was not authorized to provide such
> > information. Moreover, what Summit Scheduling
> > actually offered me by requiring that I re-shop
> a
> > modified assignment, at the same location within
> a
> > 24 period, was no more than the opportunity to
> > lose my anonymity as I was already known at
> this
> > location.
>
>
> Did your agreement have a stipulation that you
> would paid after 4 unsuccessful attempts to get a
> quote? If not, you are simply not owed the money.
> It's black and white as far as I'm concerned.
> It's not your fault that the employee was
> unshoppable, but the shop was not performed as
> required, despite you insisting that it was.
>
> If I hire you to build a bridge and while you are
> attempting to get a building permit, you discover
> bridges are not legally allowed to be built in the
> specified location, do I still owe you the fee for
> building the bridge? Not unless it's in the
> contract...
>
> As for as your reputation; It's pretty easy to
> discern your argumentative nature from the posts.


Sharing one's story, rebuting falsehoods and not agreeing 100% with your opinion, or the opinions of others for that matter, hardly classifies as being argumentative.

As for this discussion, my intended message to warn other shoppers from falling into a pitfall with Summit Scheduling has been accomplished as I'm sure that this post has been read and will continue to be read by more than just those who have left postings here today.

ProMysteryShopper66 * MSPA Silver Certified & Reaching For GOLD!
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