Blue Bank Shops for Maritz vs. RSG
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I believe they are the same. I tried to do one on one of my routes for RSG and was told that I had to live within 20 miles of the bank so I could add my vacation home's address to my profile so I would be eligible. Well, if I had a couple million for a vacation home in that area, it is unlikely I would be mystery shopping. I was not completely sure if they were suggesting I lie in my profile or not.
I did one of these shops the other day close to home. RSG pays more and both had the shop on their boards. I decided to go with Maritz because I felt they do not sanction cheating. But, in the process of looking at the two boards, I started to wonder if the two companies are part of the same parent company. I can't remember now what suggested that to me, but there was something.
I did one of these shops the other day close to home. RSG pays more and both had the shop on their boards. I decided to go with Maritz because I felt they do not sanction cheating. But, in the process of looking at the two boards, I started to wonder if the two companies are part of the same parent company. I can't remember now what suggested that to me, but there was something.
Maybe you saw that RSG was recruiting for the cell phone [credit check] shops on behalf of Maritz. That said, I do not think they are part of the same company.
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WhiteRosie, I was told that Maritz has subcontracted with RSG and KSS in order to gain a younger/more varied shopper base.
As for RSG, they do make exceptions to the 20 mile rule, but you have to contact a scheduler and run it by them, and have them schedule it for you. I have picked up surcharge and signage shops as far as 120 miles away.
As for RSG, they do make exceptions to the 20 mile rule, but you have to contact a scheduler and run it by them, and have them schedule it for you. I have picked up surcharge and signage shops as far as 120 miles away.
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Maybe. I can't remember. My eyes could have been playing tricks on me also as I believe they also go by "Mystery Research" and I thought it read "Maritz Research."
whiterosie Wrote:
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> Maybe. I can't remember. My eyes could have been
> playing tricks on me also as I believe they also
> go by "Mystery Research" and I thought it read
> "Maritz Research."
Nope, you are 100% correct. Maritz has subcontracted with RSG/Mystery Researchers on certain projects.
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> Maybe. I can't remember. My eyes could have been
> playing tricks on me also as I believe they also
> go by "Mystery Research" and I thought it read
> "Maritz Research."
Nope, you are 100% correct. Maritz has subcontracted with RSG/Mystery Researchers on certain projects.
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I'm still trying to figure out why Maritz will let me do all of these that I want, but RSG says I am not "eligible to shop for XXXXXXXX" and won't let me assign any of them. They're the same banks. Why am I eligible with Maritz but not RSG? One of the branches in question (that I don't shop, because I bank there) that Maritz calls all the time trying to get me to do is just 6 miles from my home. But I am "not eligible to shop for xxxxxxxx" so I can't apply for that one either.
I don't know if xxxxxxxx has blacklisted me for RSG because I've done so many for Maritz. If they're trying to get a younger demographic, that could be why. Or maybe they just want new blood. But the nature of the shop is such that the age of the shopper should not affect whether the banker does what he is required to do. None of the scenarios have anything to do with age or lifestyle. People of all ages bounce checks, use debit cards, and like rewards points.
I don't know if xxxxxxxx has blacklisted me for RSG because I've done so many for Maritz. If they're trying to get a younger demographic, that could be why. Or maybe they just want new blood. But the nature of the shop is such that the age of the shopper should not affect whether the banker does what he is required to do. None of the scenarios have anything to do with age or lifestyle. People of all ages bounce checks, use debit cards, and like rewards points.
Time to build a bigger bridge.
I shop out of state frequently at banks that only allow you to be from their state only, Credit Unions. I never give my name or address, they don't know the difference. I might tell them I'm moving there soon and need information. I have shopped over 2000 banks, obviously I mix them up. It doesn't matter if you have an account or not if you are doing a platform shop as long as you don't frequent there or have shopped the SSR within several months. I never give my name or where I live. I'm new to the area, my sister lives down the street, etc.
The issue that DSpeakes mentioned is not to do with giving your address to the bank, it's with MysteryResearchers/RSG's 20 mile radius rule for assigning shops.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/06/2014 05:13AM by Shop2LiveinFL.
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dspeakes. Simply call the Team handling these shops @ Maritz. The can do a bypass for you. They have for me...
Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/06/2014 05:14AM by Shop2LiveinFL.
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“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain
“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain
“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
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I realize that Maritz is not the problem. I have already run into this. They are however, the solution. As Cettie would say - "That hand picked stuff is a Bunch of Mule Fritters!...
Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
I'm still learning 24/7.
Let me add a little sumptin, sumptin. Check out the post in the jobs forum by Darius for MR. I have already sent him an email about this "Jobs in Your Area" Crap. I am hoping for a positive response and edit to his post. If not, their office is only a 45 minute drive for me...
Shopping Bama and parts of Georgia.
I'm still learning 24/7.
I'm still learning 24/7.
I don't think it's the radius that is getting me. I actually tried to get my local bank and got the same response. I cannot do the shop because my profile answer to "eligible to shop for xxxxxxx" is not set to "yes." When I asked how it gets set to "yes" I was told that xxxxxxx told RSG who can and can't shop for them. They said nothing about radius.
I *do* bank there, so it's possible they don't want any customers of the bank doing these shops, but I think I've heard from another one who is a customer and is allowed to do them. So I really don't know.
Maybe I'll ask Maritz if they know what's going on, but they probably want me working directly for them for $x.xx instead of for RSG for more money.
I *do* bank there, so it's possible they don't want any customers of the bank doing these shops, but I think I've heard from another one who is a customer and is allowed to do them. So I really don't know.
Maybe I'll ask Maritz if they know what's going on, but they probably want me working directly for them for $x.xx instead of for RSG for more money.
Time to build a bigger bridge.
Do not ask Maritz about RSG's jobs. That is not a good idea. They are in competition for this bank's business.
And like I said in a previous post, there is no rhyme or reason as to how the bank client hand-picked their shoppers. I have two accounts with this bank. I shop for both MSCs. And I occasionally perform a shop at the location where I opened the account. Since I do all my banking online and I use a fake name at the branch, no one has a clue to who I am.
And like I said in a previous post, there is no rhyme or reason as to how the bank client hand-picked their shoppers. I have two accounts with this bank. I shop for both MSCs. And I occasionally perform a shop at the location where I opened the account. Since I do all my banking online and I use a fake name at the branch, no one has a clue to who I am.
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“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain
“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
~ Jimi Hendrix
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~ Mark Twain
“To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” ~ J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
If they have a 20 mile radius, there are going to be a lot of banks that will never get shopped without huge bonuses because there are few shoppers who will come up to these remote areas without them. I don't think RSG has ever gotten anyone to do my local bank because it's always on the list in the emails. I just wish they'd stop emailing me about them if I'm not eligible to do them.
Time to build a bigger bridge.
I don't live in the area served by Blue, but I have done them for [edited to remove the name of RSG's client] when I visit friends in the area. I always have a cover story ready, particularly where I live (a town is usually sufficient and I grew up in the area so I can generally easily pass for a current local). The shop itself is generally fairly quick, but all of the required scans are time consuming. RSG seems to have fewer of them, but the description is the same. When I am in the area again, I will apply for one with RSG and will then learn if I am approved to do one. (I am afraid to Apply just to see if I can. Even though RSG doesn't usually approve quickly, it would be just my luck to have it assigned to me before I can delete the request.)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2014 09:45PM by myst4au.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2014 09:45PM by myst4au.
JenW Wrote:
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> Maybe you saw that RSG was recruiting for the cell
> phone shops on behalf of Maritz. That said, I do
> not think they are part of the same company.
I just did two of those and they pay much better and the report is so much easier than phone shops by Maritz.
I don't understand why and how though.
The shops are for Maritz but Maritz don't post them and RSG pays much better. Puzzling to me.
FYI, there's lots of those shops available right now in Tampa but you can't shop your own provider and I already did the two other ones :-(
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> Maybe you saw that RSG was recruiting for the cell
> phone shops on behalf of Maritz. That said, I do
> not think they are part of the same company.
I just did two of those and they pay much better and the report is so much easier than phone shops by Maritz.
I don't understand why and how though.
The shops are for Maritz but Maritz don't post them and RSG pays much better. Puzzling to me.
FYI, there's lots of those shops available right now in Tampa but you can't shop your own provider and I already did the two other ones :-(
Are these the cell phone shops which RSG has been raising the fee on because very few people are willing to have their credit scores impacted? Almost none of them have been picked up in the Philadelphia metropoitan area and the price is up to $35 this morning. This has been the subject of discussion in another thread. As I pointed out there, whenever I do a shop for the hyphenated cell phone company, they always want to check my credit so that they can tell whether to let me pay off the cost of the cell phone. Despite the assurances that this is a "light" credit check, no one (including me) is willing to accept that. Not is anyone convinced that the cell phone company paying for this shop (whichever it is) can really expunge the initial credit check from your credit records at the various credit reporting agencies.
This is NOT the same cell phone shop which Maritz is doing directly for the hyphenated company.
This is NOT the same cell phone shop which Maritz is doing directly for the hyphenated company.
Shopping Southeast Pennsylvania, Delaware above the canal, and South Jersey since 2008
What's a couple of points when your have good credit? I guess I need the money more than the points ;-)
I may be doing different shops, but I always tell them, "My credit is excellent. You can check it later if I decide to do this." Since none of them require us to go through with a purchase, there is no hit, soft or otherwise.
It's amazing how many different MSCs seem to do the same cell phone shops. I'm sure some of them, the store you're in is the company that is paying for the shop. But I wonder how many are competitor shops or are commissioned by the manufacturers of the phones.
The one I did yesterday for a company for whom I've never done a cell phone shop before did not require me to take a photo of the store front of the hyphenated store that normally requires one. (I took one anyway, just in case) And the report was very different from the others. I think this one was commissioned by a cell phone manufacturer because the focus was on one brand.
And she didn't ask to check my credit. But she didn't do any of the other things she was supposed to do either, other than be very pleasant and smile a lot.
It's amazing how many different MSCs seem to do the same cell phone shops. I'm sure some of them, the store you're in is the company that is paying for the shop. But I wonder how many are competitor shops or are commissioned by the manufacturers of the phones.
The one I did yesterday for a company for whom I've never done a cell phone shop before did not require me to take a photo of the store front of the hyphenated store that normally requires one. (I took one anyway, just in case) And the report was very different from the others. I think this one was commissioned by a cell phone manufacturer because the focus was on one brand.
And she didn't ask to check my credit. But she didn't do any of the other things she was supposed to do either, other than be very pleasant and smile a lot.
Time to build a bigger bridge.
The current cell phone shop which RSG is scheduling specifically requires that you allow the cell phone company to run a credit check. The initial solicitation also required that you give the client the right to run a credit check before the approve you to do the shops (they promised to somehow remove that hit after the fact),but I think that requirement is now gone (I think they found out that they can not expunge the record as had been promised).
The cell phone shops done for a cell phone manufacturer are very different than the ones done by the cell phone company itself and can usually be identified because you have to ask specific questions about a particular manufacturer of cell phones. Then to confuse things even more, there are competitive shops where one cell phone company is shopping another cell phone company. Then there are cell phone shops in big box stores and mass merchandisers such as the blue store and the red store. BTW, the bottom end of service and knowledge about cell phones and computers is in the blue stores.
The cell phone shops done for a cell phone manufacturer are very different than the ones done by the cell phone company itself and can usually be identified because you have to ask specific questions about a particular manufacturer of cell phones. Then to confuse things even more, there are competitive shops where one cell phone company is shopping another cell phone company. Then there are cell phone shops in big box stores and mass merchandisers such as the blue store and the red store. BTW, the bottom end of service and knowledge about cell phones and computers is in the blue stores.
Shopping Southeast Pennsylvania, Delaware above the canal, and South Jersey since 2008
Here are the posting guidelines copied and pasted from just below the reply box:
"Posting Guidelines: Be honest. Add a positive contribution to the community. You are responsible for all the content of your post. Do not reveal the clients of MYSTERY SHOPPING COMPANIES. We're in this together. And most importantly: Have fun!"
The one basic rule of this forum is do not name the clients of MSCs in the same thread as the MSC. Or at least, that has been the rule. The title of this thread is virtually a violation as there is only one bank associated with the color blue...or has it been decided that it is okay to violate ICAs in the forum now?
"Posting Guidelines: Be honest. Add a positive contribution to the community. You are responsible for all the content of your post. Do not reveal the clients of MYSTERY SHOPPING COMPANIES. We're in this together. And most importantly: Have fun!"
The one basic rule of this forum is do not name the clients of MSCs in the same thread as the MSC. Or at least, that has been the rule. The title of this thread is virtually a violation as there is only one bank associated with the color blue...or has it been decided that it is okay to violate ICAs in the forum now?
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Have PV-500 & willing to travel.
"Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard." (The Fourth Doctor, The Face of Evil, 1977)
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Have PV-500 & willing to travel.
"Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard." (The Fourth Doctor, The Face of Evil, 1977)
"Somedays you're the pigeon, somedays you're the statue.” J. Andrew Taylor
"I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him." Galileo Galilei
I wasn't aware that 'almost' counted.
Only one bank associated with the color blue? I just Googled "Blue Bank" and a bunch of banks popped up. Just because WE know doesn't mean that EVERYONE knows.
Only one bank associated with the color blue? I just Googled "Blue Bank" and a bunch of banks popped up. Just because WE know doesn't mean that EVERYONE knows.
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There are lots of banks associated with the color blue including a large regional bank in the Middle Atlantic and a national bank out of NYC. They even have overlapping service areas. There is even (to my surprise) a bank named Blue Bank. There are many references on this site to to "red", "yellow", "blue", and "green" gasoline stations. Even references to McD as something like Golden FF. Five Guys is sometimes referred to as the Peanut Hamburger. I have never seen anyone take issue with that before.
Shopping Southeast Pennsylvania, Delaware above the canal, and South Jersey since 2008
Compared to some of the others I've come across here (Arches FF, Four Plus One Dudes, Swedish Build-Your-Own Furniture Store, Bath & Bed Store)....Blue Bank doesn't even come close.
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Plan the work. Work the plan.
By the way, if either Maritz or RSG happens to be doing shops for Blue Bank (the one with that actual name), please let me know and I will edit my post. At least one officially named Blue Bank is located in Slovakia. there are others.
Shopping Southeast Pennsylvania, Delaware above the canal, and South Jersey since 2008
There's also a Blue Bank International in Venezuela.
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myst4au Wrote:
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> There are lots of banks associated with the color
> blue including a large regional bank in the Middle
> Atlantic and a national bank out of NYC. They even
> have overlapping service areas.
The issue here is a deliberate effort to technically stay within the rules while blatantly breaking the spirit of the rules, and that is a problem.
A number of years back this forum had the reputation for the 'loosest lips' about information which companies have every right to expect to be confidential. Company complaints led to the establishment of the non-disclosure rule within this forum for the protection of the forum and its owner. You can scream all you want about "free speech" and the right to bend rules any way you wish, but if companies complain, you could have no speech if the forum owner decides it is just too much of a hassle.
Honoring both the spirit and the fact of non-disclosure rules is the professional behavior and if we expect the companies we work with to act professionally towards us, we need to behave professionally ourselves.
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> There are lots of banks associated with the color
> blue including a large regional bank in the Middle
> Atlantic and a national bank out of NYC. They even
> have overlapping service areas.
The issue here is a deliberate effort to technically stay within the rules while blatantly breaking the spirit of the rules, and that is a problem.
A number of years back this forum had the reputation for the 'loosest lips' about information which companies have every right to expect to be confidential. Company complaints led to the establishment of the non-disclosure rule within this forum for the protection of the forum and its owner. You can scream all you want about "free speech" and the right to bend rules any way you wish, but if companies complain, you could have no speech if the forum owner decides it is just too much of a hassle.
Honoring both the spirit and the fact of non-disclosure rules is the professional behavior and if we expect the companies we work with to act professionally towards us, we need to behave professionally ourselves.
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