Intellishop caused me $300 in financial damages
Vince, I was going to recommend the same thing. Call your credit card company and dispute the charges, based on fraud.
@vince wrote:
non-payment of a bill is not a police matter.
Try not paying your dinner bill and see who the restaurant calls....
My point was not that they would call the police for you not paying your bill, but the property dispute would be a police matter if they refused to return your vehicle. It's yuur property unless they can prove they have a valid case to put a lein on it, and the police would step in to enforce either side of that. I seriously doubt it would have come to that, or that the mechanic would have the authority or pertantent information to negatively affect your credit.
This is not really a debt until you have agreed to the terms and then not been able to, or refused, to pay. At the point you were at, it was simply an unauthorized charge that they wanted to apply to you. I can't fathom how that could possibly destroy your credit rating.
no, i agree with you. i'm just saying that the police will not likely support me either way when it comes down to bill payment.@SteveSoCal wrote:
Try not paying your dinner bill and see who the restaurant calls....
the police would likely write something incriminating against both parties in a police report. i already have all the paperwork that i need to dispute the work. a negative police report would not likely have helped out at all, in my personal opinion.@ wrote:
My point was not that they would call the police for you not paying your bill, but the property dispute would be a police matter if they refused to return your vehicle. It's yuur property unless they can prove they have a valid case to put a lein on it, and the police would step in to enforce either side of that.
anyone who reports non-payment of a bill can negatively affect your credit. they don't need proof or evidence. they just report non-payment of a bill and/or they send a debt collector after you and it works against you. then you have to make effort to clear the report of non-payment. meanwhile creditors will refrain from issuing new credit accounts while the credit blemish exists. unresolved disputes negatively affect the credit score, whether they are valid or not.@ wrote:
I seriously doubt it would have come to that, or that the mechanic would have the authority or pertantent information to negatively affect your credit. This is not really a debt until you have agreed to the terms and then not been able to, or refused, to pay. At the point you were at, it was simply an unauthorized charge that they wanted to apply to you. I can't fathom how that could possibly destroy your credit rating.
yes, thank you. that's what i did. however, intellishop is ultimately responsible for representing their client.@myshop wrote:
Vince, I was going to recommend the same thing. Call your credit card company and dispute the charges, based on fraud.
I am not sure about America, but in Canada at least in Quebec where I am from, it is illegal for them to start work without giving you a written quote.
@Canuck wrote:
I am not sure about America, but in Canada at least in Quebec where I am from, it is illegal for them to start work without giving you a written quote.
It's the same here.
in chicago, we don't actually have laws here. anything goes.@SoCalMama wrote:
@Canuck wrote:
I am not sure about America, but in Canada at least in Quebec where I am from, it is illegal for them to start work without giving you a written quote.
It's the same here.
They could have put a mechanics lein on your property. If you didn't pay, they could have eventually auctioned off your vehicle.
@vince: Granted, I have not lived in Chicago for over five years, and things may have changed since then, but when we left in 2009, they still had laws. They also had snow.
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I pointed out the mechanic's lein issue a few days ago. And they can charge a daily fee for storage of your vehicle.
I am convinced that the shop was wrong, but the reality of getting it straightened out without paying the bill would not be easy. At best, it would be time consuming.
For this and other reasons which I pointed out (not the least of which is the driveability issue), I refuse to even consider doing a "free brake inspection". And I am very cautious when I get my oil changed.
I am convinced that the shop was wrong, but the reality of getting it straightened out without paying the bill would not be easy. At best, it would be time consuming.
For this and other reasons which I pointed out (not the least of which is the driveability issue), I refuse to even consider doing a "free brake inspection". And I am very cautious when I get my oil changed.
Shopping Southeast Pennsylvania, Delaware above the canal, and South Jersey since 2008
I would never, EVER do a oil change shop, a brake inspection or ANY thing to do with my car. I would rather pay $30 for my own oil change, than to have someone screw with my car...
The oil change places like to "pump up the price" by saying you need more things...
I found a wonderful place a mile from my home, who did an oil change the other day and they did not say I needed 15 more things... They have been so honest, second time visiting them and they always have the opportunity to say you need this, this, this and this. But they have not said I needed other things..
It's nice to get free things through mystery shopping but you can keep the oil change shops..
No thanks I say, to oil change shops!
The oil change places like to "pump up the price" by saying you need more things...
I found a wonderful place a mile from my home, who did an oil change the other day and they did not say I needed 15 more things... They have been so honest, second time visiting them and they always have the opportunity to say you need this, this, this and this. But they have not said I needed other things..
It's nice to get free things through mystery shopping but you can keep the oil change shops..
No thanks I say, to oil change shops!
That is against the law -- to perform unauthorized car service. If you live in California, you should contact The Consumer Affair's Office, or the Attorney General's Office in your state. They got my money back when I was in a similar situation.
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Jeez...just let it friggin' go and move on. Let this be a learning experience for being "taken for a ride".
Just another chapter in the "book of vince" as there chapters in the "book of brian".
If this is the biggest issue you have, to rant about this, then you're fortunate.
Just another chapter in the "book of vince" as there chapters in the "book of brian".
If this is the biggest issue you have, to rant about this, then you're fortunate.
Kindly see my observation on the other discussion of this same topic.
It's getting kinda/sorta tiresome, to say the least.
Lets all pitch in a few $$$ to reimburse vince so we don't have to listen to all this armchair lawyer-ing from folks who are well-meaning but don't really have a clue.
It's getting kinda/sorta tiresome, to say the least.
Lets all pitch in a few $$$ to reimburse vince so we don't have to listen to all this armchair lawyer-ing from folks who are well-meaning but don't really have a clue.
actually, everyone's been quite constructive and helpful in their advice. no rant here. you're the only one getting tired or agitated here. no need to minimize others' financial loss or input. if you want to move on, then you're welcome to post in another thread. bring your impatience elsewhere. we're enjoying ourselves here. or take a nap and come back when your mood is better.@parkcitybrian wrote:
Jeez...just let it friggin' go and move on. Let this be a learning experience for being "taken for a ride".
Just another chapter in the "book of vince" as there chapters in the "book of brian".
If this is the biggest issue you have, to rant about this, then you're fortunate.
actually, everyone's been quite constructive and helpful in their advice. no rant here. you're the only one getting tired or agitated here. no need to minimize others' financial loss or input. if you want to move on, then you're welcome to post in another thread. bring your impatience elsewhere. we're enjoying ourselves here. or take a nap and come back when your mood is better.@parkcitybrian wrote:
Kindly see my observation on the other discussion of this same topic.
It's getting kinda/sorta tiresome, to say the least.
Lets all pitch in a few $$$ to reimburse vince so we don't have to listen to all this armchair lawyer-ing from folks who are well-meaning but don't really have a clue.
@myst4au wrote:
I pointed out the mechanic's lein issue a few days ago. And they can charge a daily fee for storage of your vehicle.
exactly. thanks for your input.@audrialyn30 wrote:
They could have put a mechanics lein on your property. If you didn't pay, they could have eventually auctioned off your vehicle.
in this case, i probably would have gotten the vehicle back since i didn't sign the work authorization. however, since the paperwork is already in my favor, a police presence really wasn't necessary. getting a negative credit hit for non-payment was actually a bigger threat to me than getting my car impounded.
the snow is often more reliable than the laws here, lolol.@stilllearning wrote:
@vince: Granted, I have not lived in Chicago for over five years, and things may have changed since then, but when we left in 2009, they still had laws. They also had snow.
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thanks, i can add this to my arsenal.@mysterytrina wrote:
That is against the law -- to perform unauthorized car service. If you live in California, you should contact The Consumer Affair's Office, or the Attorney General's Office in your state. They got my money back when I was in a similar situation.
Have you tried complaining to corporate ( the actual company)? I also would deactivate myself.
Actually, it is the repair shops fault for not getting permission from you to do the work. That is who you should sue.
there is joint liability for misrepresentation.@IrishMiss wrote:
Actually, it is the repair shops fault for not getting permission from you to do the work. That is who you should sue.
yes, they are attempting to shift responsibility.@audrialyn30 wrote:
Have you tried complaining to corporate ( the actual company)? I also would deactivate myself.
@IrishMiss wrote:
Actually, it is the repair shops fault for not getting permission from you to do the work. That is who you should sue.
Actually and factually, IrishMiss, you are correct.
The problem is the whiny guy who started this vitriol against IntelliShop doesn't quite get it that they had nothing to do with his getting fleeced (and i'm not sure that he really did, just accepting his word?). All IntelliShop did was schedule him for an assignment which he probably didn't do correctly? Sorry but I just can't read through all his ranting and raving and trying to shift responsibility for his naivete.
@parkcitybrian wrote:
The problem is the whiny guy who started this vitriol against IntelliShop doesn't quite get it that they had nothing to do with his getting fleeced (and i'm not sure that he really did, just accepting his word?). All IntelliShop did was schedule him for an assignment which he probably didn't do correctly? Sorry but I just can't read through all his ranting and raving and trying to shift responsibility for his naivete.
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be careful, irish miss. this one's a troll.
Troll: Definition
4. To post inflammatory or irrelevant material on (an electronic forum) to provoke responses.
he's just trying to convolute the discussion to stir controversy.
apparently, you haven't even read people's posts, brian. you're the only one bringing vitriol into this thread, 'whiny guy'. everyone else in this thread disagrees with you. everyone has contributed to this thread productively but you. you've been spotted a mile away.
Speaking from first hand experience and have been successful when suing an MSC.
100% the MSC has responsibility since they are the one that hired the IC.
do your own research
100% the MSC has responsibility since they are the one that hired the IC.
do your own research
Not everybody here agrees OR disagrees with Brian. Nor does everyone agree or disagree with you, vince. But I find calling Brian a troll extremely offensive. Just as I would find it offensive if Brian called YOU a troll.
Either way, name-calling is unnecessary. Because someone expresses a different opinion than yours does not make him a troll.
If anyone believes he has spotted a troll, or if a post is offensive, he should use the Report feature to report to a moderator, who will determine whether that is the case. The moderator will take whatever action is necessary.
Name-calling is offensive. Anyone offended by the name-calling (I certainly am) should use the Report feature to report the name-calling post to a moderator.
Either way, name-calling is unnecessary. Because someone expresses a different opinion than yours does not make him a troll.
If anyone believes he has spotted a troll, or if a post is offensive, he should use the Report feature to report to a moderator, who will determine whether that is the case. The moderator will take whatever action is necessary.
Name-calling is offensive. Anyone offended by the name-calling (I certainly am) should use the Report feature to report the name-calling post to a moderator.
fully agreed. i've received completely constructive advice from most everyone in this thread.@jackaroe wrote:
Speaking from first hand experience and have been successful when suing an MSC.
100% the MSC has responsibility since they are the one that hired the IC.
do your own research
thanks. but this works both ways, and he does fit the definition. i posted whats called a troll alert.@AustinMom wrote:
Not everybody here agrees OR disagrees with Brian. Nor does everyone agree or disagree with you, vince. But I find calling Brian a troll extremely offensive. Just as I would find it offensive if Brian called YOU a troll.
Either way, name-calling is unnecessary. Because someone expresses a different opinion than yours does not make him a troll.
thanks, i'll do this too. unfortunately, it can be offensive to call a troll out.@ wrote:
If anyone believes he has spotted a troll, or if a post is offensive, he should use the Report feature to report to a moderator, who will determine whether that is the case. The moderator will take whatever action is necessary.
Name-calling is offensive. Anyone offended by the name-calling (I certainly am) should use the Report feature to report the name-calling post to a moderator.
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