INTELLI SHOP: New report grading??
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I just submitted one last night, i'll let ya know! lol
For my experience over the last 8 years plus with them they always were especially for a lot of the automotive shops I used to do for them. I have not had anything out of the ordinary.
I am waiting for the next exciting opportunity!
My shop got a 10 but it is a pretty straight forward shop.
I have not experienced any change with the MSCs grading. It certainly could be that I have not completed work for a specific client that warrants closer scrutiny. A second possibility is the editor decided any shopper whose screen name is taken from a tombstone, needs to be held to a higher standard.
@shopperbob wrote:
I have not experienced any change with the MSCs grading. It certainly could be that I have not completed work for a specific client that warrants closer scrutiny. A second possibility is the editor decided any shopper whose screen name is taken from a tombstone, needs to be held to a higher standard.
My friend doesn't understand the tombstone thing. Could you elaborate for me...I mean... her?
@sestrahelena wrote:
@shopperbob wrote:
I have not experienced any change with the MSCs grading. It certainly could be that I have not completed work for a specific client that warrants closer scrutiny. A second possibility is the editor decided any shopper whose screen name is taken from a tombstone, needs to be held to a higher standard.
My friend doesn't understand the tombstone thing. Could you elaborate for me...I mean... her?
Apparently a reference to the name on a tombstone of a character never seen in the 3 Clint Eastwood "Dollar" spaghetti western movies.....[dollarstrilogy.fandom.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/14/2022 11:47PM by guysmom.
Oh! I thought is was shopperbob on the tombstone and googled the wrong thing! Duh.
I mean, my friend did.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2022 12:07AM by sestrahelena.
I mean, my friend did.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2022 12:07AM by sestrahelena.
I have found their in-house editors are more fair. If you get wordsmith pros doing them then you get graded a little bit more harshly. But it really doesn't matter, as long as it's accepted and paid, I'm good!!
My comment was strictly in jest. Arch Stanton was the name on a tombstone in "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly." It was the cemetery where the three named characters had a final shoot-out.
19 out of the last 22 that I did over the last 4 months scored 10’s. I probably spend more time on some of them than I need to.
I am waiting for the next exciting opportunity!
Wordsmith Pros? I had one where they graded me low with a whole bunch of criticism regarding complex sentences, spelling e.g. lead instead of led. I was incredulous. This was maybe 3-4 years ago? Wrote to the scheduler as Wordsmith would not respond to me. The scheduler cared enough to read my report, said she thought it was great, nothing wrong with it and changed my score to a 10. Ha!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2022 04:13AM by Madetoshop.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2022 04:13AM by Madetoshop.
I had a Wordsmith Pros editor knock 10% off because I put 69 inches for height instead of 5'9". One told me I'm too white glove and marked 20% off, the next said I missed grime (10% off). This was for a different MSC. I think they get paid for making up errors 
@Madetoshop wrote:
Wordsmith Pros? I had one where they graded me low with a whole bunch of criticism regarding complex sentences, spelling e.g. lead instead of led. I was incredulous. This was maybe 3-4 years ago? Wrote to the scheduler as Wordsmith would not respond to me. The scheduler cared enough to read my report, said she thought it was great, nothing wrong with it and changed my score to a 10. Ha!
Wordsmith Pros are the most uniformed editors I've ever encountered. A freelance client of mine uses them for copywriting and complains about them. Which is why I get their work to re-do! LOL.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
@BirdyC wrote:
Wordsmith Pros are the most uniformed editors I've ever encountered. A freelance client of mine uses them for copywriting and complains about them. Which is why I get their work to re-do! LOL.
“Uninformed,” not uniformed, right?
I’m giggling at the thought of an army of Gen Z college kids (how I imagine the Wordsmith Pros) sitting in coffee shops with open laptops- all wearing some sort of Dickensian scribe uniform.
@ColoKate63 wrote:
@BirdyC wrote:
Wordsmith Pros are the most uniformed editors I've ever encountered. A freelance client of mine uses them for copywriting and complains about them. Which is why I get their work to re-do! LOL.
“Uninformed,” not uniformed, right?
I’m giggling at the thought of an army of Gen Z college kids (how I imagine the Wordsmith Pros) sitting in coffee shops with open laptops- all wearing some sort of Dickensian scribe uniform.
LOL! Yes; uninformed. So much for the writer/editor being correct! Sigh. What happens when I'm in a hurry and don't proofread. This proves the value of manual proofing and not letting one's software write and proof!
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/16/2022 05:07PM by BirdyC.
Since “lead” as the past tense of “to lead” is a pet peeve of mine, I can tell you that you’re in good company because I see it in the New York Times and other newspapers and magazines on a daily basis. I doubt the client would notice, and it shouldn’t be marked off it’s so common.
I’ve been marked off by WSP for ridiculous alleged grammatical mistakes that I know aren’t mistakes.
Getting marked off for an alleged capitalization mistake on a form that has the question, “At which pump did you fuel at?” (Different MSC) is infuriating.
I’ve been marked off by WSP for ridiculous alleged grammatical mistakes that I know aren’t mistakes.
Getting marked off for an alleged capitalization mistake on a form that has the question, “At which pump did you fuel at?” (Different MSC) is infuriating.
@Madetoshop wrote:
Wordsmith Pros? I had one where they graded me low with a whole bunch of criticism regarding complex sentences, spelling e.g. lead instead of led. I was incredulous. This was maybe 3-4 years ago? Wrote to the scheduler as Wordsmith would not respond to me. The scheduler cared enough to read my report, said she thought it was great, nothing wrong with it and changed my score to a 10. Ha!
I did a report a few weeks ago on a job I have done many times ( at least 50 over the past few years). I did it exactly as I always have. The Wordsmith editor gave me a 9/10 and chastised me for doing "the bare minimum." As in, I did exactly what the guidelines asked for? That is the only thing I could think of. When those jobs popped up this month the pay had been cut 30%, so I decided to pass since they did not care for my "bare minimum" efforts.
There’s an editor who almost never gives a comment but I get the idea that he’s starting with a 9 and deducts from there and if you wow him he’ll give you a 10. As if there’s a way to go above and beyond on a report? Is there extra credit somewhere for making a mess and then documenting an infraction or something? He’s given me as low as a 4 with no comment! I wasn’t feeling well that day, but still, I should go back and look at that report some day and see if I see gaping mistakes worthy of a “find another job” rating. I used to try to avoid submitting during his working hours but he seems to have changed his schedule. And if the other MSC is changing their rules about submission I couldn’t do that anyway. (This is all wordsmith I’m talking about).
@Ideagirl wrote:
I did a report a few weeks ago on a job I have done many times ( at least 50 over the past few years). I did it exactly as I always have. The Wordsmith editor gave me a 9/10 and chastised me for doing "the bare minimum." As in, I did exactly what the guidelines asked for? That is the only thing I could think of. When those jobs popped up this month the pay had been cut 30%, so I decided to pass since they did not care for my "bare minimum" efforts.
@sestrahelena wrote:
“At which pump did you fuel at?”
That one has been driving me nuts for many, many years.
And then they ding us for incorrect grammar and usage! Which they should do, of course, but maybe whoever writes the guidelines needs to learn proper usage as well.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
@Notme2021 wrote:
I doubt the client would notice, and it shouldn’t be marked off it’s so common. [/quote=Notme2021]
@Madetoshop wrote:
...spelling e.g. lead instead of led. I was incredulous.
Honestly? You both don't think that a blatant misspelling shouldn't be marked down because it's so common? They are two different words with two different tenses.
That's why we're losing the ability to use language properly. "Everybody does it" leads to everybody doing it and nobody remembering what's correct. If we make a mistake, and I include myself in that (because I do, and I expect to be marked down for it), we should be dinged for it. Why wouldn't we be? We're being paid to write properly. Or should we just say, "Oh, you know what I mean. It doesn't matter that I did it wrong."
Sorry, but THIS is one my MY pet peeves. People not caring that they made a mistake because "you know what I mean" and/or everybody does it. Well, no; sometimes we don't.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2022 02:21AM by BirdyC.
No I don’t think someone should lose 1 point out of 10 for a mistake the NYT makes almost daily and the client wouldn’t notice. 1 point if it were a 100-point scale? Sure. I have had editors point out a mistake with a photo and still give me a 10. So ofc fix it, and let the shopper know. But I don’t think that every small error like that has to be marked off, especially considering the fact the editors make their own mistakes and/or mark off for non-mistakes.
I said it’s my pet peeve because I *do* think people should know it and not make the mistake. However, everything doesn’t have to be about punishing the shopper. A 10-point scale should be just that.
I said it’s my pet peeve because I *do* think people should know it and not make the mistake. However, everything doesn’t have to be about punishing the shopper. A 10-point scale should be just that.
@BirdyC wrote:
@Notme2021 wrote:
I doubt the client would notice, and it shouldn’t be marked off it’s so common. [/quote=Notme2021]
@Madetoshop wrote:
...spelling e.g. lead instead of led. I was incredulous.
Honestly? You both don't think that a blatant misspelling shouldn't be marked down because it's so common? They are two different words with two different tenses.
That's why we're losing the ability to use language properly. "Everybody does it" leads to everybody doing it and nobody remembering what's correct. If we make a mistake, and I include myself in that (because I do, and I expect to be marked down for it), we should be dinged for it. Why wouldn't we be? We're being paid to write properly. Or should we just say, "Oh, you know what I mean. It doesn't matter that I did it wrong."
Sorry, but THIS is one my MY pet peeves. People not caring that they made a mistake because "you know what I mean" and/or everybody does it. Well, no; sometimes we don't.
OM goodness. I used led instead of lead. Apologies if I did not convey that correctly in my post. Maybe that's why I deserve what I get, LOL. Honestly, always. Why would one lie? Thank you all.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2022 04:13AM by Madetoshop.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2022 04:13AM by Madetoshop.
@Madetoshop wrote:
OM goodness. I used led instead of lead. Apologies if I did not convey that correctly in my post. Maybe that's why I deserve what I get, LOL. Honestly, always. Why would one lie? Thank you all.
I'm not understanding! You used "led" instead of "lead" and not "lead" instead of "led"? In any event, it sounds like whichever one you used instead of the other was the wrong one, and you felt you should not have been dinged. Is that right?
Maybe MSCs need to use half-points so they could grade a report a 9.5 instead of a 9 for a grammar or spelling issue. I don't know. I just think that expecting a perfect grade for something that has errors in it is very strange. Regardless of the number of total points involved.
All that aside, I agree that Wordsmith Pros and many, many other editors do not themselves have appropriate language skills and mark down for things that are correct, but which they think are incorrect. I've had that happen a number of times. It's maddening.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/19/2022 12:12AM by BirdyC.
I do a couple of projects for intellishop that have used wordsmithpros for editing for several months now. I do anywhere from 50-100 shops a month for Intellishop, and almost all get edited by WSP. I get 10s about 97% of the time. When I get less than 10 it's usually because I uploaded the wrong photo and had to resubmit or had spelling/dictation errors because I was too lazy to thoroughly proofread. My experience is that they have been quite reasonable in editing.
@BirdyC.
Wrong. I used "led." Correct tense and spelling. :-)
Wrong. I used "led." Correct tense and spelling. :-)
@BirdyC wrote:
@Madetoshop wrote:
OM goodness. I used led instead of lead. Apologies if I did not convey that correctly in my post. Maybe that's why I deserve what I get, LOL. Honestly, always. Why would one lie? Thank you all.
I'm not understanding! You used "led" instead of "lead" and not "lead" instead of "led"? In any event, it sounds like whichever one you used instead of the other was the wrong one, and you felt you should not have been dinged. Is that right?
Maybe MSCs need to use half-points so they could grade a report a 9.5 instead of a 9 for a grammar or spelling issue. I don't know. I just think that expecting a perfect grade for something that has errors in it is very strange. Regardless of the number of total points involved.
All that aside, I agree that Wordsmith Pros and many, many other editors do not themselves have appropriate language skills and mark down for things that are correct, but which they think are incorrect. I've had that happen a number of times. It's maddening.
@Madetoshop wrote:
@BirdyC.
Wrong. I used "led." Correct tense and spelling. :-)
@Madetoshop wrote:
So your usage was correct, and they decided it was wrong? Ohforcryin' out loud! Almost nothing frustrates me more than when that happens. An editor marks you down for something that was correct in your report. Because *they* don't know the proper usage. Argh.
I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2022 03:46PM by BirdyC.
Agree 
@BirdyC wrote:
All that aside, I agree that Wordsmith Pros and many, many other editors do not themselves have appropriate language skills and mark down for things that are correct, but which they think are incorrect. I've had that happen a number of times. It's maddening.
I just got a 9 with copious praise; they didn't say what I did wrong.
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