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I’m tired of ipsos doing what they want like not paying shoppers at all for no reason or paying late and just saying sorry. No one ever gets back. They cheat shoppers out of pay regularly for shops done correctly.
40 hours a week? I do that in 2 days most of the time. I range 80-120 a week. If I’m awake, I’m working. I’m only checking this post because I’m taking a break.
“If you’re in a situation where you don’t even blink if you’re paid a month late, well, nice for you but pretty cruel to be so cavalier about others.”
Not only does it belie a callousness, it also demonstrates a lack of knowledge regarding how big routes can quickly limit finances. (It must be nice to be a hobbyist who collects a pension and only does shops “for fun” and “to get out of the house.”)
I do not collect a pension. I operate a business. I am a professional, not a hobbyist. Like any business owner, I devote well over 40 hours per week to my business. I typically shop a two-state area, but regularly do shops across a ten state swat.
It is presumptuous to think that people are lacking knowledge or hobbyists. And I am hardly callous. It would be proper to remove your insinuations.
Payments are one day late. Last time this happened, they paid Friday. I'm expecting a couple of thousand, and yes I need the money now. But it's not time to panic and throw aspersions at those who dont.
Does anyone else think Rousseau is getting paid to post positive things about ipsos and be so condescending to others who post anything negative against the company, which in this case is deserved. But God forbid you are the only one with ipsos doing something to you or a few people with that issue.
Hardly worth either worrying or complaining about. IPSOS proactively notified its suppliers - shoppers - that payment would be late and will be made.Late payments are part of any business' accounts payable. When they get 30 days past due - and they won't - then there will be reason to be concerned.
Its likely just the case that IPSOS forgot that Monday was a holiday and did not transfer funds from their treasury to PayPal in time for PayPal to make the distributions on Tuesday.
Anyone whose business - that of a professional shopper - is so under capitalized that they cannot deal with a late payment from a single customer - IPSOS - a payment which hardly very past due, ought consider whether they are suited to be in business.
When late payments cause me serious hardship -- whether they be late by one day, one week, one month, or one year -- I would consider whether I was suited to be in this business. This is not a judgement of my competence or intelligence. Just a recognition that running a business entails risks and uncertainties, and that I might be better served with a regular job that provides relative stability.
For the two plus years I’ve worked for Ipsos that’s never happened. Lots of holidays are on Mondays. There have only been two payments that I was expecting that didn’t come in on a Tuesday (it’s possible there were others when I hadn’t worked the previous week, but I don’t think so). One came Wednesday and they added extra more recent shops to it to make up for it, and then this year’s issue. Not a terrible average, just worrying that it hasn’t been all that long since the previous time; I just hope it won’t continue to get more frequent. The fact they’re cutting pay at the same time just makes it more concerning. Plus I was counting on it.@JohnInNC wrote:
Notme2021: I "did" notice Chime sent me an email two/three days ago that yesterday was officially Juneteenth, which is a recognized Federal Holiday.only since last year. Banks closed yesterday "could" cause a domino effect of funds getting to PayPal by today's usual afternoon drop....which usually occurs at 2pm for me.@Notme2021 wrote:
They sorta blame it on PayPal but don’t quite say it’s because of a PayPal issue.
@F and L TeleComm wrote:
ok, so I've followed this post from beginning to end and observed the tangents and put-downs and implications. I am basically a career shopper. I don't have multiple income streams yet, but I am working on it. I started investing in the stock market (via stockpile) during COVID and have not stopped. I have not withdrawn ANYTHING, even when I am broke and need money or when prices fall (the value of my stocks drop) I have not panicked and sold off stocks at a low price. (I have 25 shares of a battery(lithium) company that has dropped to a dollar something) I have a rent house that is unfinished because I don't have 8-10 k to do the electrical work. However, I do work with MULTIPLE MSPs on various pay schedules. I do give IPSOS the majority of my IC work because they offer the assignments I like to do for a reasonable price. Occasionally, they pay well. Sometimes they don't and I skip shops that are too grossly underpaid. Considering the MF fiasco about a year ago I keep every CPI now. (I didn't before that). But I still work for them. Why? Because as a whole they tend to "pay as agreed". Do I know exactly what day I will be paid each month? NO! But generally as a rule it is between the 20th -25th. I also work for CI which pays monthly and not weekly. Now back to the IPSOS thing. I do shops every week for IPSOS. As a general rule, I usually make something rather than nothing from IPSOS even when it's slow. Following my shop log, looking at shop date submitted, shop date actually paid, and date edited, there is not a valid prediction from date shop to date paid other than to say I am usually paid within 3 weeks of the original shop date! Have I ever had a shop rejected by IPSOS? Absolutely, Remember the interim when the green and white station was on the USA portal? I lost one of my green and whites out of town. Was I happy about it? absolutely not. But I do keep up with rejected shops and write the cost of doing that shop off as a business loss on my taxes. ( I am not a scheduler) I get paid from IPSOS on Fridays and at the beginning of the week and I don't know which shops get paid when... But what really confuses me is that since I don't know exactly how much /which shops I will be paid for on a given date with IPSOS (until I see "payment pending" how is it that there is so much panicking and driveling over a one-day pay delay (yes, I got paid yesterday too and it was "hundreds" of dollars (over the 5 mark)? It brings to mind the aphorism." in a perfect world"...
@F and L TeleComm wrote:
Point taken. But what about shops that somehow get "stuck" in the system and don't get edited for a period of time? We've had two shops that I distinctly remember having to send an email because they were in "limbo-land". it was promptly fixed and paid but still, it happens. There are editing delays sometimes. Again, "in a perfect world"... I know for a fact, based upon my shop log that shops are sometimes paid on the following week and sometimes not. In some of the shops I get paid within a week, some just over a week, and some have taken longer. I am too busy to sit and analyze it every single week. A few weeks ago I did an overnight route to Augusta (Wednesday evening through Friday) I was paid for some the next week and some 2 weeks later. (On the same route). I'm looking at my shop log right now "shop submitted 6-03 paid 6-7 (4 days turn around) Shop submitted 6- 2, Paid 6-14 (12-day turn around), shop submitted 6-6 paid 6-14 (8 days turn around), Shop submitted 6-13 paid 6-22 (9 days turn around) I have unpaid shops on my board right now that say 6-15 and they are not paid. Granted that normally shops done the same day were normally paid together. However, I have also noticed that the blue gas station that requires every single pump to be photographed is normally paid quicker than the blue and red Indian sign station. Upon reviewing my payment history in PayPal I've shown a payment on a Thursday this year and a payment on a Monday this year. (with an incomplete search) Thus my conclusion is that the system is not 100%.