I don't interpret Shopetal to be speaking or "preaching" sanctimoniously, pegc, but rather articulating and espousing a particular economic ideology that is limiting of the scope of government.@pegc wrote:
Sanctimoniously donating used clothing and a few boxes of food to a food pantry is a drop in the bucket.
Oh yeah. Another good point. I brought that up in a thread before too. I doubt, unfortunately, it will get done, as the mass roll-out of things means trade-offs, such as tailoring the bailout to be region specific for COL considerations.@Tarantado wrote:
I want to see the income limits adjusted depending on the city, living status, etc., so I can actually qualify for it....
Surprisingly, he found those who were conservative in political orientation gave more than those of a liberal one and also those who were of lower-incomes gave more than those of higher incomes.
... Anyway, I think there is only so much the conservatives, Christians, churches, and others can do. In order for charity to work exclusively, it will require all to do their all. I don't see that happening. So, a little proper government intervention can go a long way.
Per Arthur Brooks, he might turn the question back on those who are secular in religious views and liberal in political orientation and ask why THEY aren't giving more of their income/wealth to the needy, 1forum1. His book shows that religious, conservatives, who are of the lowest income levels, give the most to charity.@1forum1 wrote:
OK... about individuals, Christians, conservatives, and the church giving and donating..... Either they're not enough of them in this country doing it to meet the needs... If individuals, Christians, conservatives, corporations, and the church are doing all this giving, why is homelessness or near homelessness and hunger an issue?
If federal unemployment benefits were $200 a week, the researchers found that the replacement rate would decline by 44% and spending would fall by 28%. At $400 a week, the replacement rate would fall by 29% and spending would fall by 12%.
This is a scary read.@ wrote:
Wave of evictions sweeps US amid impasse over coronavirus protections
Moratorium in federal housing expired at end of July
Trump stopgap measures seen as of doubtful efficacy
I am for both private charity and government support during this pandemic global recession. We seem to need both. Key word: both.@Shop-et-al wrote:
Remember all that drive and talent you mentioned some posts ago? Where is your support for the idea of basic, ordinary people helping other basic, ordinary people? Someone needs talent and drive to make this last until the govt. figures out how to advance the stimulus dialogue and actions.
Even without ongoing unemployment benefits, some people will streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch their few bucks.
Also, we have seen huge food price inflation and some household goods inflation too (like paper products).@Flash wrote:
The real bone of contention, as I see it, comes from context. In some areas of the country $15 per hour is pretty close to a living wage while in other parts of the country it is far from that.
There definitely have been some crazy stories.@maryr6881 wrote:
I believe the $600 a week should be lowered to at least $200-$300 a week If that. Many of those unemployed are making more from unemployment then they would if they were working.
I agree no one should have an expectation of a guaranteed level of living standard of their own choosing. I don't think that's what's happening right now, though.@Shop-et-al wrote:
When did anyone guarantee us the privilege of living as we believe that we ought to live-- the location, the space, the stuff, the funds, the other circumstances... ? This is an ego issue, not a thing for the fed to provide.
Shopetal - That is good you are responsibly working to support yourself and have emergency savings to meet these unexpected needs. Yes, everyone should do this.@ wrote:
@shoptastic: This week, I have an unexpected car repair. There is no shop type for this brand and situation and there wasn't one pre-covid. But I will have the money to pay for it it when I get paid for recent shops and merches. Perfect timing! I surmise that some people do not want to do the types of work that I do. This is okay-- as long as whatever work they do or did will pay for their car repairs, etc. Am I lucky or living proof that wearing masks and gloves on the job have kept me free from covid?
I believe the $600 a week should be lowered to at least $200-$300 a week If that.
Pelosi Favors Slimmed-Down Stimulus Now, Then More in January