Second to None Warning Payment

prettygul1 Wrote:
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> EPMS posted that they will only pay with Dierect
> Deposit. I am so glad. I have a checke that was
> supposed to be sent on the 22nd but still note
> here. And they want their shops in on time.

What doe EPMS stand for?

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I'm doing DD through them; I try to get as much as I can directly into checking so its there already and I can pay bills directly from it instead of Paypal which can drive me crazy with transfers, how long it takes, etc.
My experience with PayPal is you get charged a fee as a merchant of their services if you are not using the premium accounts they offer. It also happens when you have gone over the monthly limit on transactions. I know of many companies outside MSCs that charge independent contractors a processing fee. Can sometimes be $5 to $15 a check or deposit.

I shop for S-to-N and chose direct deposit from the start. I like the DD because I get the cash right away. With paypal, I have to transfer the money to my account, which adds extra days.

In any case, the most important thing is that we get paid for the work we do!
I also got the notice. I was not happy about it but Direct Deposit is fine with me anyway. As far as the time it takes to transfer PayPal to your bank. I have a PayPal debit card, the transfer is instant! No wait time. It is also a good way to transfer money to someone else that has the card also. My son and I have done that before (he has the debit also) I'm in FL he is in IN and out of gas! Instant gas money.
I don't like Paypal anyways (Google the lawsuits against Paypal) but it's annoying to have the signup for direct deposit link popup lately. I'll sign up for DD soon though!

Now as far as pay from S2N I did a job at [censored] and did more for that company during the next 18 months. The pay was $18-30 per shop.
I have done a few shops with STN. Today I tried logging on and it says my account is inactivated. "Contact help desk." Any ideas why this might happen? Strange. I have done all of four or five shops. Never missed one.
Okay, I give. What is BTT?

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
Thank you!

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I got my payment from second-to-none on 11/14/2011 and I haven't had to pay a $1.00 fee. Ithink that was maybe a plan, but I think they thought it overand didn't go with it.
You mean you got it through PayPal and no fee was deducted? To me having the DD is 2 days faster. I have a PayPal account designated strictly for mystery shopping. The money goes into my checking account and nowhere else. It makes record keeping sooooo much easiersmiling smiley To me using a PayPal debit card or making online purchases would just muddy the waters at tax time.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
I just did my first shop with them. After reading this chain I changed my payment to direct deposit from paypal. I have several shops lined up this month and not only will I appreciate the extra $ but I'll get it dater.


Thanks

~~*~~*~~*~~ kal ~~*~~*~~*~~
Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just forget to load the film.
Oh Gosh....I hope we don't soon have an "Occupy STN"! I really don't find the charge that offensive. I personally think they are a great company and worth the buck.
I am sure I have this wrong, but I thought if you made one transfer to your bank account or something there was no charge.

Yet another reason not to shop StN. They are cheap. And they aren't respectful.

A lot of companies say you must accept Paypal (if you want to shop with them)

YIKES

lisams901 Wrote:
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> Irene_L.A. Wrote:
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> > Paypal is free...if all MSC's don't charge the
> > 1.00 why should 2nd 2 none. I think it's just
> > another way for them to jip the shopper and act
> > like they have a reason. Another shopper makes
> a
> > good point, saying they are saving $$ by not
> > sending checks, so why not pass some of the $
> on
> > to us....cheap shot, glad I said by to them
> long
> > ago. Funny how these companies package things
> to
> > make themselves look pretty.
>
>
> Paypal is not free.
richraynor Wrote:
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> Oh Gosh....I hope we don't soon have an "Occupy
> STN"! I really don't find the charge that
> offensive. I personally think they are a great
> company and worth the buck.


I just looked-and my Oct 14 and Nov 15 payments did not charge a buck. They are for the exact small amount of the fee and reimbursible. I cannot find anything on their site either. Can someone point me to the right place?

I shop for them very little any more, they have very few jobs here and the fees are tiny. Nothing over $10 unless I want to pretend to buy Medicare for my parents.
Too funny, I love how you start off by saying "I'm sure I have this wrong" but you still call StN disrespectful and cheap based off your "wrong" info. I think PayPal limits the amount of cash you can withdrawl to your bank account at around $500 before you have to pay any fees. If you ever sell anything on ebay PayPal gets a small percentage of the total cost, so StN is getting charged for every single transaction they deposit which I am sure has to be thousands a month. Most companies are willing to eat the cost because that is the only option to payout they offer and its still cheaper than sending a check. By the way I usually do several bank shops for them that pay $20 a piece not bonused that are very easy, maybe they don't have high paying jobs where you are but they do for me. Also those low paying jobs always get bonused so just wait.


jersey07032 Wrote:
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> I am sure I have this wrong, but I thought if you
> made one transfer to your bank account or
> something there was no charge.
>
> Yet another reason not to shop StN. They are
> cheap. And they aren't respectful.
>
> A lot of companies say you must accept Paypal (if
> you want to shop with them)
>
> YIKES
>

Triple Platinum Certified - Shopping South Central Kansas
I could be wrongsmiling smiley I thought PayPal also had a limit on transfers to my bank account and the would charge a fee, but at this point every transfer I've made has been free and my guess is I've gone over $500 in a single.

As far as STN choosing to pass along the PayPal fee to the shopper, since they offer Direct Deposit as a free alternative I don't understand the big deal. If there was no alternative that would be a different story.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
When you reach your $500 limit you can transfer more by making sure that Paypal has 2 of 3 identifiers on you. One is a credit or debit card number and another is your social security number. I forget what the third is. Transfers beyond the $500 per month can then be done and there is no charge.
Good to know Flash. That must be it because I used to have a ton of audits for GFK every month so from the alone I was exceeding $500.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
HI shopperlogists. (the study of mystery shopping)

First of all I take responsibility for not asking a question to the scheduler, however i am curious what others thing. I did a computer shop for Staples, the pay was $4.00 with a reimbursement up to $65.00 for a drop of computer pick it up a couple of days later, check up. They charge I believe it was $20 to $29.00 for the service. I don't remember the exact cost, however it was under $30.00 The guy at Staples said, they could do a complete diagnostic check for $69.00. My computer had been acting up,so i figured i'd pay the additional $4.00 out of my own pocket. When it came to picking up my computer they said they couldn't find anything wrong and couldn't explain why I kept getting an error message. They agreed to as a courtesy transfer all of my stuff onto a disc, so it my computer went south I would have the information. Four and a half hours later I received the disc. I submitted my report and was told i was supposed to only do a computer check up for which they only pay up to i think it was $29.00 Since I did the shop they were going to pay the shop fee of$14.00 but NOTHING else, no reimbursement for the computer work Staples completed for me. When I asked why they offered a rimbursement of up to $65.00 IF THEY ONLY PAID UP TO $29.00, she couldn't answer me. I asked her to send me the instructions for the shop and she did and they do say to do a computer tune up.SHE DID NOT SEND THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE REIMBURSEMENT COST WAS. Personally I thought the guy did an "upsell" and I took the offer. I was wrong and I paid for it entirely out of my own pocket. I am curious about what others think about the situation, and what they would have done.

Thanks,
SMH
I recently had a spa shop. While I don't remember the specifics on reimbursement there were options to get one of 3 different services, one of which was a manicure, with reimbursement up to say $75. Since the service was coming well under the reimbursement I asked about adding another service and the scheduler told me it would be full reimbursement for the cost of one service and gratuity, but not a full $75. In my case I was able to take an upsell to a more expensive manicure and since it was still the required service I was paid for that.

Your original instructions stated a specific service and nothing more. A higher reimbursement was probably listed in case the service has different prices from state to state. Truthfully, getting a different service could impact the report and you may be lucking out that they decided to use the report and pay you rather than invalidate the whole thing.

You may also want to remove the name of the client from your post. Linking them and the MSC is a violation of both this forum's posting guidelines and your IC agreement.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2011 06:46PM by LisaSTL.
just wanted to clarify....I wasn't suggesting that StN was disrespectful or cheap based on the PayPal issue. I am not sure how PayPal works except to say I have never incurred a charge. It is my understanding that you can transfer up to $500 a month to the account they have on file without assessing any fees or charges. As for StN...if they are passing on the $1 fee to the IC, yep, I think they are cheap. As for disrespectful. I have had bad experiences with StN. They WERE rude to me, basically called me a liar, and refused to pay me for a shop. All because I said a store did not have a kiosk and explained that it had shelves instead. If others enjoy shopping for them, fine. I am not willing to shop for a company that does not respect me. Others might not have had the same experience. If that is the case, I would love to read positive posts. Maybe things have changed with them. I have only been a member of this forum for a while and I have yet to see anything positive about StN. Neutral maybe, but no glowing recommendations.

Brak Wrote:
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> Too funny, I love how you start off by saying "I'm
> sure I have this wrong" but you still call StN
> disrespectful and cheap based off your "wrong"
> info. I think PayPal limits the amount of cash you
> can withdrawl to your bank account at around $500
> before you have to pay any fees. If you ever sell
> anything on ebay PayPal gets a small percentage of
> the total cost, so StN is getting charged for
> every single transaction they deposit which I am
> sure has to be thousands a month. Most companies
> are willing to eat the cost because that is the
> only option to payout they offer and its still
> cheaper than sending a check. By the way I usually
> do several bank shops for them that pay $20 a
> piece not bonused that are very easy, maybe they
> don't have high paying jobs where you are but they
> do for me. Also those low paying jobs always get
> bonused so just wait.
>
>
> jersey07032 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am sure I have this wrong, but I thought if
> you
> > made one transfer to your bank account or
> > something there was no charge.
> >
> > Yet another reason not to shop StN. They are
> > cheap. And they aren't respectful.
> >
> > A lot of companies say you must accept Paypal
> (if
> > you want to shop with them)
> >
> > YIKES
> >
Dustygirl Wrote:
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> I also got the notice. I was not happy about it
> but Direct Deposit is fine with me anyway. As far
> as the time it takes to transfer PayPal to your
> bank. I have a PayPal debit card, the transfer is
> instant! No wait time. It is also a good way to
> transfer money to someone else that has the card
> also. My son and I have done that before (he has
> the debit also) I'm in FL he is in IN and out of
> gas! Instant gas money.


Dusty
Doesn't paypal dbt card have a monthly fee?
I did a copy shop (where you take a thumb drive in and have them make flyers, brochures, etc.). They were supposed to be in black and white and the clerk offered color, said they'd look better. Quick thinking me remembered that if they offered something I was to accept. What was that something.....hmmm...must have been "color copies". OK, color it is! Cost an extra $30. Got outside and re-read the guidelines. Oops, wrong upsell. They reimbursed for B&W and I was out the extra. Lesson learned.



PAID2PEEK Wrote:
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> HI shopperlogists. (the study of mystery
> shopping)
>
> First of all I take responsibility for not asking
> a question to the scheduler, however i am curious
> what others thing. I did a computer shop for
> Staples, the pay was $4.00 with a reimbursement up
> to $65.00 for a drop of computer pick it up a
> couple of days later, check up. They charge I
> believe it was $20 to $29.00 for the service. I
> don't remember the exact cost, however it was
> under $30.00 The guy at Staples said, they could
> do a complete diagnostic check for $69.00. My
> computer had been acting up,so i figured i'd pay
> the additional $4.00 out of my own pocket. When it
> came to picking up my computer they said they
> couldn't find anything wrong and couldn't explain
> why I kept getting an error message. They agreed
> to as a courtesy transfer all of my stuff onto a
> disc, so it my computer went south I would have
> the information. Four and a half hours later I
> received the disc. I submitted my report and was
> told i was supposed to only do a computer check up
> for which they only pay up to i think it was
> $29.00 Since I did the shop they were going to pay
> the shop fee of$14.00 but NOTHING else, no
> reimbursement for the computer work Staples
> completed for me. When I asked why they offered a
> rimbursement of up to $65.00 IF THEY ONLY PAID UP
> TO $29.00, she couldn't answer me. I asked her to
> send me the instructions for the shop and she did
> and they do say to do a computer tune up.SHE DID
> NOT SEND THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE
> REIMBURSEMENT COST WAS. Personally I thought the
> guy did an "upsell" and I took the offer. I was
> wrong and I paid for it entirely out of my own
> pocket. I am curious about what others think
> about the situation, and what they would have
> done.
>
> Thanks,
> SMH
cynb Wrote:
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> Dustygirl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I also got the notice. I was not happy about it
> > but Direct Deposit is fine with me anyway. As
> far
> > as the time it takes to transfer PayPal to your
> > bank. I have a PayPal debit card, the transfer
> is
> > instant! No wait time. It is also a good way to
> > transfer money to someone else that has the
> card
> > also. My son and I have done that before (he
> has
> > the debit also) I'm in FL he is in IN and out
> of
> > gas! Instant gas money.
>
>
> Dusty
> Doesn't paypal dbt card have a monthly fee?

Not Dusty, but no it does not. Have had mine for about 5 years and could not be happier. I use it as credit and get 1% cash back. No credit approval required.
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