MarketForce Make an Offer

Maybe this has been discussed before, but I looked and couldn't find the topic if it was.... I think it would be a good idea if MF allowed shoppers to counter if their original offers were declined. I put in an offer on a shop yesterday. It's due tomorrow at the latest. My offer was declined. (It was a dollar more than the last shop I did for them of the same type; I guess that offer was their upper limit!). Anyway, it's still on the board and still due tomorrow. I'd do it for less than my original offer, but there's no way in the system to counter offer. I've written to the Help Desk asking if I can counter, but it would be simpler if they just let you do it through the system. Or do they get miffed if your offer is too high and "punish" you by giving you only a "take it at our original fee or leave it" option? Seems it would be to their benefit as well as good for shoppers if they had this option. Not that they should allow multiple back and forths, but one opportunity for the shopper to counter at a lower fee seems both sensible and beneficial. At least to me. .

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Why would they do that? The current system encourages you to make lower bids. Your system would it would encourage you to make higher bids and then bring them down. Their system will get the shop done a fee lower than the maximum they are willing to pay more often than your system would.

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Well, nobody's taking them at base or at their $2 bonused amount, and deadline is looming. Still seems to me they'd be better off having a reliable, competent shopper doing these by deadline and paying a few dollars more. It's good business. Getting a job done at the cheapest price available isn't necessarily a good deal for the MSC. Or any business or individual. It may seem cost-effective, but often it's not.

Plus, given their payment issues, with some shoppers saying they won't shop for them until that's back on track, I don't think they should deny a shopper the chance to come back with a lower price. They're still getting it done at less than the original offer amount.

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Their shops aren't exactly rocket surgery. I'm not sure that there would be a huge difference between an exceptional shoppers report and a barely adequate shoppers report.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2019 11:29PM by bgriffin.
I agree, they need to improve the way Make An Offer interacts. The current system is pretty much not interactive. I'd think at minimum it would alert a scheduler they have someone interested.

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@bgriffin wrote:

Their shops aren't exactly rocket surgery. I'm not sure that there would be a huge difference between an exceptional shoppers report and a barely adequate shoppers report.

Well, we'll have to disagree on that. There could very well be a large difference between a good shopper's report and a not-so-good shopper's report. Their shops themselves aren't rocket surgery, but even as little narrative as most have, I'm pretty sure they still want correct grammar, spelling, punctuation, sentence construction, etc. Most shoppers should be more than capable of that, but I'm not so sure that's true. sad smiley

But maybe MF doesn't care. I have no idea.

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What's rocket surgery?

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The make an offer feature used to be great. Now they decline my offers that they always took before. Then they move the due dates forward until they cant anymore. Then they call me and pay me the amount I offered in the first place. Its stupid.
@HonnyBrown wrote:

What's rocket surgery?

A cross between rocket science and brain surgery.

I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
They posted a few paragraphs about this a while back. It's still on the Home page. They stated if your offer is declined, you can e-mail your lower offer to the HelpDesk and they will respond.

I offered $45 each on two shops on make an offer, and the first one was granted before I even finished the second request. The very next e-mail I got was accepting the second one. Never got such rapid responses before.

Shops are going begging here -- not just the little green flame that means "make an offer", but also a little red flame. Not sure what that means, but it seems to denote some urgency.

I then asked for 5 or 6 more shops at reasonable fees, and they were all instantly denied.

I called a scheduler, she e-mailed help desk and explained I needed them for a mini-route, and the e-mails started arriving before we finished our phone call!

Which reminds me....I've gotta quit messing around here and get those reports done, LOL!!!
I always found it a bit annoying that once they decline your first offer, you are "locked out" of making another offer. Like MrsChaney, I've had several initial offers "declined', and the jobs stay on the board. Then MFI ends up calling me to sign me up for the shop at the fee that they previously declined. Seems like a lot of unnecessary steps and lost time, but I guess I understand they are trying to get the lowest-fee shopper first before they'll accept my higher bid.
@ceasesmith wrote:

They posted a few paragraphs about this a while back. It's still on the Home page. They stated if your offer is declined, you can e-mail your lower offer to the HelpDesk and they will respond.

Thanks; I missed that. They could save themselves time (i.e., money) if they'd just build a counter-offer function into the auto system.

I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Yeah, I know. Instead of a red banner that says "Your make an offer was declined", the banner COULD merely say "Your offer was outside our parameter of $45. Will you accept $45?"
Hmmmm. Maybe astronauts flying to the Hubble Space Telescope and fixing the lens? That might be considered "Rocket Ophthalmology" ! smiling smiley
@HonnyBrown wrote:

What's rocket surgery?

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@ceasesmith wrote:

Yeah, I know. Instead of a red banner that says "Your make an offer was declined", the banner COULD merely say "Your offer was outside our parameter of $45. Will you accept $45?"

Like that'll ever happen! LOL.

At least, they could add "If you would like to submit another offer, use the function at right," then add a "resubmit offer" button. If they think we're really dense, they could repeat: "If your offer is outside of our parameters, we cannot accept it."

I learn something new every day, but not everyday!
I've learned to never trust spell-check or my phone's auto-fill feature.
Of course, they think we're really dense. Wasn't it MF spokesperson who said the main requirement for being a shopper was "breathing"?
I put in an offer to do a route of 10 telecommunications audits for $10 over base pay and they ignored it. Now I see the shop pay going up by 50 cents every week to eventually they will be paying the $10 over base pay. Guess they just want to wait until the last minute in case there is someone out there desperate to do an hour+ shop for not even gas mileage
MF, give me a break....no more, lousy reimbursement, job said open till the 23rd, so did it on the 22nd and it was denied. Frickin ass company, done, now to de-activate. Report was not fun, may other burger places to shop where you are not a # and actually have communication. I ask a question and get an email answering something totally different...what the....didn't want to do it in the first place, phony sweetness got to me.

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They called me last week and offered me a job for $2 more than the offer they declined. I said sure smiling smiley
I have been frustrated as well with making an offer and having it declined. I don't like the line in the email that basically says, We are not going to take your offer, but if you want to do it for the amount posted you are welcome to do it. Really? You ask me to make an offer and then you say no, do it at the amount posted or don't do it? I asked only for what I have been paid in the past, not some crazy amount. It's a frustrating game they are playing and it is wearing on my last nerve.
@Irene_L.A. wrote:

MF, give me a break....no more, lousy reimbursement, job said open till the 23rd, so did it on the 22nd and it was denied. Frickin ass company, done, now to de-activate. Report was not fun, may other burger places to shop where you are not a # and actually have communication. I ask a question and get an email answering something totally different...what the....didn't want to do it in the first place, phony sweetness got to me.
I am not aware of any MF jobs that have date ranges once you have accepted the job.

It could have had June 22 or June 23 when you chose it, but you have to pick an exact date or reschedule it.
Guess Imy bad...I'm not a MF shopper, second job and last.....enjoyed the hot dog, but can get one on my own for 5/6 bucks since I don't eat fries.

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This was posted on the site on June 19th.. Seems there's one or thing that isn't working

Make an Offer Feature
June 19, 2019
We believe there that our Make an Offer option appearing on the shopper website might be temporarily unavailable. If you see a shop with the Make an Offer feature, and you decide to make an offer, and if you receive the immediate message that the offer was declined, please submit your offer instead to the Help Desk and we will be sure it gets to our hard-working Scheduling team.

If you would like to make an offer, please include the following details in your email to Help Desk:

1) Shopper ID,
2) type of shop or name of the Client,
3) full address of the shop location,
4) date(s) on which you can do the shop, and
5) fee amount you are requesting.


Please keep in mind that we will not be able to accept the fee offer unless it is within our acceptable fee parameters. Also note that you will not receive a reply if your offer cannot be accepted. We recommend that you review the Shopper Support Article under the Help tab entitled "Tips on Making Shop Offers" in order to have the best chance of success of your offer being accepted.
wyldfire50 - this is exactly how I made my offer. I sent an email to the help desk. I did not hear back and the jobs are still sitting on their job board - but inching up to the price I said I would do them 3 weeks ago. The only reason I stated my price is 3 months ago I did the same shops for exactly what I was asking for in my email. MF just doesn't understand we have a business to run too. A low paying food shop is great if it is on your way to and from other high paying jobs; however, one can not live off of fast food pay - they are only fillers or for people who are hungry.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2019 02:10PM by lbtweety47.
They understand they just do not care. Since the spent all of the money that they ripped off from the clown burger place it does not matter anymore they want to see if we are that stupid surprise surprise some people are.


@lbtweety47 wrote:

wyldfire50 - this is exactly how I made my offer. I sent an email to the help desk. I did not hear back and the jobs are still sitting on their job board - but inching up to the price I said I would do them 3 weeks ago. The only reason I stated my price is 3 months ago I did the same shops for exactly what I was asking for in my email. MF just doesn't understand we have a business to run too. A low paying food shop is great if it is on your way to and from other high paying jobs; however, one can not live off of fast food pay - they are only fillers or for people who are hungry.
Ha! You realize that was subcontracted. They didn't have that contract, another MSC did

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Why make an offer? They don't pay for shops we do. They say to be "patient". They're 'working' on it. Bull....
Wouldn't make an offer on any of their shops till they pay shoppers what is owed for May. Then I wouldn't take any shops until June is paid. Finally, would be very cautious in taking future shops from them. It's ashame that they used to be a reliable MSC to do business with, but not anymore. The fact that they keep misrepresenting when shoppers will get paid is a fine example.
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