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Like most everything else, the masks are seemingly for the greater good. It's becoming apparent that communities who sport masks have a lower infection rate. It's hard to argue with that.
And borrowing the argument that many have used to defend MS companies; You have the option too simply not go out if you don't like the new rules
And borrowing the argument that many have used to defend MS companies; You have the option too simply not go out if you don't like the new rules
You may recall that in my state, which has yet to receive requested millions of units of protective gear, we are not dying from COVID-19. Perhaps there is something more effective than masks: that would be staying in one's own little part of the world. We are doing well, overall and all things considered. And we don't have the da@#%%$^ I mean demanded masks.
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
@Niner wrote:
As far as going back, as a teacher, I'm concerned. Both parents of a kid in my class have it, and I'm sure there are many others whose families have covid also. The kids are likely asymptomatic carriers. I teach in NY, and we are supposed to return at the end of this month. I'm scared since I have bad asthma and don't want to get this (not that anyone does!)
Looks like NYC has closed schools for remainder of academic year - good for them!
[www.bloomberg.com]
Are you outside of NYC, Niner?
Local university is doing virtual ed at least through summer school. Huazzah! A teacher halfway across the state hopes that fed money will reach some needy families soon. Some of them are struggling (due to COVID-19 and other reasons unique to the state). *crosses fingers*
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
WA, OR and CA have closed schools for the rest of the year too.
I didn't realize you had been tested. There is no way to know if you are an asymptomatic carrier or not without being tested. And like Steve posted, communities where people wear masks have a lower rate of confirmed cases.
@Shop-et-al wrote:
I resent that I am ordered to wear a mask that will not protect others from a disease that I do not have
My friend was in the $1 store Dollar Tree yesterday and she said they had a shelf full of tp. unknown brand but still they had it and enough for lots of people at 1 pkg per person.
@shoptastic wrote:
@SteveSoCal wrote:
I will be shocked and jealous if you can order TP for pickup. Tomorrow will be a month since I last saw it on a shelf anywhere in L..A.
How r people getting by without it? I can imagine ways...not so sanitary or perhaps "messy" ways, but still asking..
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Here is an interesting article about the best materials for masks and their tested effectiveness. I was about to make a mask out of my enviro vacuum cleaner bags last week but then they said a bandana works well but nope, it does not work that well. Some of these masks provide protection for others but not for the wearer but some do offer quite decent protection for the wearer as well. So now I am going to grab my vacuum cleaner bags and make those masks. You can make 4 out of one bag if you have them. but caution is you must wear them correctly and be careful when taking them off too.
Here is an interesting article about the best materials for masks and their tested effectiveness. I was about to make a mask out of my enviro vacuum cleaner bags last week but then they said a bandana works well but nope, it does not work that well. Some of these masks provide protection for others but not for the wearer but some do offer quite decent protection for the wearer as well. So now I am going to grab my vacuum cleaner bags and make those masks. You can make 4 out of one bag if you have them. but caution is you must wear them correctly and be careful when taking them off too.
@sandyf wrote:
My friend was in the $1 store Dollar Tree yesterday and she said they had a shelf full of tp. unknown brand but still they had it and enough for lots of people at 1 pkg per person.
I went out for some exercise today and saw a guy leaving Walgreens with 2 large packs of Charmin! There's a hope on the horizon....
Costco has pallets and pallets of toilet paper every single day. They are not "out" any longer. Plus, nearly every store has some at some point. I haven't bought any since January and have enough for 6 months at least. That's how much I usually have. Nothing new.
My daughter is an RN and I mentioned to her that I might try making a mask out of a T-shirt. She said she had researched it and the material you use should not be stretchy and if you put it up to light and can see through it, it isn't acceptable.
I went out yesterday, first time in 25 days and stopped at my daughter's to rescue my Cokes that she had ordered for me from Amazon, went to Freddy's for a burger that I was craving and stopped at a Chicken/Mexican food place and got 10 burritos so I can freeze some.
I dithered last year for about 2 months about buying a freezer and, boy, am I glad I did. I, too, have been eating food I brought home from some of my shops.
I did put together an order for curbside pickup at Walmart on Monday (they were booked 2 days but time available third day) and then I should be all set to stay in another 25/30 days.
I went out yesterday, first time in 25 days and stopped at my daughter's to rescue my Cokes that she had ordered for me from Amazon, went to Freddy's for a burger that I was craving and stopped at a Chicken/Mexican food place and got 10 burritos so I can freeze some.
I dithered last year for about 2 months about buying a freezer and, boy, am I glad I did. I, too, have been eating food I brought home from some of my shops.
I did put together an order for curbside pickup at Walmart on Monday (they were booked 2 days but time available third day) and then I should be all set to stay in another 25/30 days.
BTW, when I pickup my Walmart order I also plan to go by Panda Exp. and get one of their family meals for 4 at $20. Hopefully, the way I eat, I can break that down to half doz. meals to pop in the freezer.
@JASFLALMT wrote:
I didn't realize you had been tested. There is no way to know if you are an asymptomatic carrier or not without being tested. And like Steve posted, communities where people wear masks have a lower rate of confirmed cases.
I have not been within 20 feet of another person or touched a surface in a public place since March 18th. I have not been tested yet can absolutely say I do not have it and am not an asymptomatic carrier.
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I got a couple for my parents. My thinking was that if I had to take them to the doctor, they could wear them and it would protect them against someone coughing at them in the waiting room or wherever. We don't have the N95 masks so I thought something would be better than nothing. Fortunately, their family doctor is now doing telemedicine visits if they need an appointment.
@HonnyBrown wrote:
I've seen people wearing face shields instead of masks. Face shields are to protect the face against splashes. I'm not sure how effective they would be against a virus.
Kim
What do you mean by forcing your hands to your face - you mean to take the mask on/off?
My friend's daughter works as an x-ray tech in NYC and she told her mom to always handle the mask by the elastic or ties or whatever holds it to your face. Touching the front of the mask is where the germs are and will certainly contaminate you, if that's what you meant.
Another thing I learned from an article from the NY Times (I think) was if you are an apartment dweller, put your mask on before leaving your apartment. Don't wait to put it on anywhere outside your apt like in the elevator because that's where germs could lurk - like if you touched a common surface and picked up the virus on your hands, then put on the mask.
All that being said, I just recently started wearing a mask in public. I have to admit, it took some getting used to, and I have to constantly remember not to put my hands on the mask to adjust it. BUT, it has kept me from touching my face.
My friend's daughter works as an x-ray tech in NYC and she told her mom to always handle the mask by the elastic or ties or whatever holds it to your face. Touching the front of the mask is where the germs are and will certainly contaminate you, if that's what you meant.
Another thing I learned from an article from the NY Times (I think) was if you are an apartment dweller, put your mask on before leaving your apartment. Don't wait to put it on anywhere outside your apt like in the elevator because that's where germs could lurk - like if you touched a common surface and picked up the virus on your hands, then put on the mask.
All that being said, I just recently started wearing a mask in public. I have to admit, it took some getting used to, and I have to constantly remember not to put my hands on the mask to adjust it. BUT, it has kept me from touching my face.
@Shop-et-al wrote:
I resent that I am ordered to wear a mask that will not protect others from a disease that I do not have and which simultaneously puts me at risk for contracting the disease by forcing my hands to my face even when I cannot practice proper sanitation then due to the guidelines for when to wear the masks.
Kim
Nope. When my hands are tired, they will not do that. They will do what they can, which is insufficient for me and the mask. This is why I need one pair of gloves to put the thing on and a different pair to remove it. And then, I just have to pray like heelll that any germs have not gone from mask to hair or to anything in my car. ICK! This mask mandate is ridiculous! Meanwhile, I will use three times as many gloves as I used to when I only needed them for the daily job. The daily job has money attached to it which pays for things like gloves... this mandate along with the absence of other work are costing me money and creating new, non-reimbursed expenses. This Is Inappropriate! Gah!
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Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
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Seems like it would be a tax write off since you are using it for business purposes?
I have to wear the mask every time I leave the house for any purpose. My use of ever more gloves is not covered as part of the early job. It is just an unwanted expense. This new mandate does not create a tax deduction situation.
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
Hmm. So the early job is as an employee and not an IC?
Shop, do you have a mask that ties on? That sounds more difficult to put on/take off than the elastic kind.
Kim
@shoptastic wrote:
@Niner wrote:
As far as going back, as a teacher, I'm concerned. Both parents of a kid in my class have it, and I'm sure there are many others whose families have covid also. The kids are likely asymptomatic carriers. I teach in NY, and we are supposed to return at the end of this month. I'm scared since I have bad asthma and don't want to get this (not that anyone does!)
Looks like NYC has closed schools for remainder of academic year - good for them!
[www.bloomberg.com]
Are you outside of NYC, Niner?
I teach in Westchester, so we are open as far as I know.
@Niner wrote:
I teach in Westchester, so we are open as far as I know.
When opening back up, is there a way to social distance in the classroom? Or, is seating quite cramped?
@shoptastic wrote:
@Niner wrote:
I teach in Westchester, so we are open as far as I know.
When opening back up, is there a way to social distance in the classroom? Or, is seating quite cramped?
Everyone is close together. Well, I'm waiting on Cuomo to hopefully end it for the year.
It sounds like Cuomo wants to reopen New York. This article makes it sound like Cuomo wants to open schools while De Blasio wants to keep them closed for the rest of the school year?
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Thank you. I bought a new infinity scarf (it is ugly because covid-19 is ugly). It is washable and can be held to my head with very large, flat hair clips that I had about the place. I am willing to add a few stitches, bits of painter's tape, or safety pins on the face side of the thing so that my little adjustments do not show to the world. This will cause the layers of fabric to remain flat and without gaps. This is not a good solution, but it is affordable and adaptable. I could add ties to this thing, though... I still have the ribbons from blankie packaging, or something....
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I bought a new infinity scarf (it is ugly because covid-19 is ugly). It is washable and can be held to my head with very large, flat hair clips that I had about the place. I am willing to add a few stitches, bits of painter's tape, or safety pins on the face side of the thing so that my little adjustments do not show to the world. This will cause the layers of fabric to remain flat and without gaps. This is not a good solution, but it is affordable and adaptable. I could add ties to this thing, though... I still have the ribbons from blankie packaging, or something....
@kimmiemae wrote:
Shop, do you have a mask that ties on? That sounds more difficult to put on/take off than the elastic kind.
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
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So we have joined the rest of the infected world and have recorded a death from COVID-19. The elderly person had risk factors. *sigh*
Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished. - Lao-Tzu
@Niner wrote:
@shoptastic wrote:
@Niner wrote:
I teach in Westchester, so we are open as far as I know.
When opening back up, is there a way to social distance in the classroom? Or, is seating quite cramped?
Everyone is close together. Well, I'm waiting on Cuomo to hopefully end it for the year.
If anything happens, Niner, fight!
I will be praying for you. Take inspiration from Geneva Wood (90 y/o) and Anna Fortunato (90 y/o), who beat the virus.
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[www.today.com]
Chris Cuomo, in a recent interview, also says we have to fight if we catch COVID-19 and have complications. Have the will to fight and beat the dang thing!
I just heard a 97-year old woman in Brazil survived the corona virus and was released from the hospital. That's so awesome!
106 year old woman in my town recovered from the virus and was released from the hospital on her 107th birthday. She lived through the Spanish Flu too.
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