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Bob, I think dustup may be a Texas term but I was surprised a year or so ago to discover it's in the dictionary. In my area, when we say Billy Joe and Jim Bob got into a dustup, we mean they argued, it developed into a fist fight in the street, and both went home vertical. The next escalation would be a shooting, in which gunplay erupted and one or both were shot but both lived. The next escalation would be a successful shooting, which we call a killing.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
Mary,
I'm not a fan of comedy, so never watch sit-coms, but you've a sense of satirical humor that brought me several chuckles this morn; thank you.
I'm not a fan of comedy, so never watch sit-coms, but you've a sense of satirical humor that brought me several chuckles this morn; thank you.
I am not happy about this, I loved the fact I could count on FP (payment on the 8th and 22nd) it's budgetting. Now I have to wait 30-60 days.
Ludlow, I know most of us don't want to wait 60 days for payment, but look on the bright side. Although you'll have a 60 day drag with no money under the new terms, when you quit shopping you'll still be getting money for 60 more days. After the first 60 days passes, you won't notice it at all. If getting through that first 60 days is really a financial problem, add a few more shops to make up the difference.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
Good Luck Shoppers, Sentry is one messed up company. Their pay sucks and you do not get paid for 60 days. Feedback plus was the best and watch out for a particular scheduler that is snotty and rude and wants everything correct for her but does not admit to her errors.
Every post (of the 6 total you posted on this forum) is negative. Knock it off. Back it up with facts if you have any. Give me a break!
Sisterstrollin, that's a rude and snotty post. Way to go. Lookin' better all the time.
Mary Davis Nowell. Based close to Fort Worth. Shopping Interstate 20 east and west, Interstate 35 north and south.
Well, after all, examine the name. Could be a sister who's strollin', or, could be.....
I love Feedback Plus... and I've been checking their site for jobs. When they have them in my area, they are soooo easy to do and sooo quick to pay. One of my favorites. I've worked with Sentry, but they don't have much in my area. I don't remember that they take 60 days as everyone indicates though... but we will see.
EFFECTIVE APRIL 1, 2014: All payments will be processed 30-60 days from the date the shop is conducted.
Question: I submitted my shop on the 3rd and wasn't paid on the 8th. When will I be paid?
Answer: We no longer process payments on the 8th and 22nd of the month. Shoppers can expect to be paid 30-60 days after the conducted shop date.
I have a response: I won't be doing shops for feedbackplus anymore : )
There is zero reason for a company to take 60 days to pay unless they
have cashflow problems.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2014 03:19PM by techman01.
Question: I submitted my shop on the 3rd and wasn't paid on the 8th. When will I be paid?
Answer: We no longer process payments on the 8th and 22nd of the month. Shoppers can expect to be paid 30-60 days after the conducted shop date.
I have a response: I won't be doing shops for feedbackplus anymore : )
There is zero reason for a company to take 60 days to pay unless they
have cashflow problems.
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There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
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When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
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When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
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I suggest that Feedback Plus change their name to Feedback since the plus of a good pay frame has been removed.
TeriW Wrote:
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> I suggest that Feedback Plus change their name to
> Feedback since the plus of a good pay frame has
> been removed.
TeriW, a better change would be Feedback Minus
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> I suggest that Feedback Plus change their name to
> Feedback since the plus of a good pay frame has
> been removed.
TeriW, a better change would be Feedback Minus
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There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
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When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
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When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
And here I was, trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, Techman01.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2014 09:42PM by TeriW.
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See the link above, as well as the link at the top of the page, for more discussions about Sentry.
See the link above, as well as the link at the top of the page, for more discussions about Sentry.
techman01 Wrote:
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> There is zero reason for a company to take 60 days
> to pay unless they
> have cashflow problems.
If that's the case, then how does the company that pays in 60 days purchase the company that pays twice a month?
I can think of a number of reasons for an MSC to wait on paying shops. Why is it so unfathomable to think that it may be a business decision, rather than a cash flow issue? 30-60 days is a relatively standard time frame for the MS industry.
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> There is zero reason for a company to take 60 days
> to pay unless they
> have cashflow problems.
If that's the case, then how does the company that pays in 60 days purchase the company that pays twice a month?
I can think of a number of reasons for an MSC to wait on paying shops. Why is it so unfathomable to think that it may be a business decision, rather than a cash flow issue? 30-60 days is a relatively standard time frame for the MS industry.
I actually emailed Feedback Plus about a job done 3/19. This was the response:
Thank you for your inquiry. The payment policy does change effective April 1, but we are processing a payment on April 8 for the shops done in March, which will include your <don't name the client!!> shop.
So I expect it today. It's hardly fair that shoppers did not know about this until April. if you know,you can make the decision to take that work or not...
Mod note: Remember not to name the client!! Thanks!!
Thank you for your inquiry. The payment policy does change effective April 1, but we are processing a payment on April 8 for the shops done in March, which will include your <don't name the client!!> shop.
So I expect it today. It's hardly fair that shoppers did not know about this until April. if you know,you can make the decision to take that work or not...
Mod note: Remember not to name the client!! Thanks!!
SteveSoCal Wrote:
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> techman01 Wrote:
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> -----
> > There is zero reason for a company to take 60
> days
> > to pay unless they
> > have cashflow problems.
>
> If that's the case, then how does the company that
> pays in 60 days purchase the company that pays
> twice a month?
>
> I can think of a number of reasons for an MSC to
> wait on paying shops. Why is it so unfathomable
> to think that it may be a business decision,
> rather than a cash flow issue? 30-60 days is a
> relatively standard time frame for the MS
> industry.
I disagree with you here. I have worked with dozens of msc's
over the years and the vast majority do not take 60 days to pay.
Most shops are paid on a set date by the msc the month following
the month a shop was completed in or sooner.
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> techman01 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There is zero reason for a company to take 60
> days
> > to pay unless they
> > have cashflow problems.
>
> If that's the case, then how does the company that
> pays in 60 days purchase the company that pays
> twice a month?
>
> I can think of a number of reasons for an MSC to
> wait on paying shops. Why is it so unfathomable
> to think that it may be a business decision,
> rather than a cash flow issue? 30-60 days is a
> relatively standard time frame for the MS
> industry.
I disagree with you here. I have worked with dozens of msc's
over the years and the vast majority do not take 60 days to pay.
Most shops are paid on a set date by the msc the month following
the month a shop was completed in or sooner.
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There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
ludlow, please edit the client name out of your post.
Did anyone get paid for march shops? Just wondering if new policies apply to shops after 4/1, or the last few in march as well. :-/
techman01 Wrote:
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> I disagree with you here. I have worked with
> dozens of msc's
> over the years and the vast majority do not take
> 60 days to pay.
> Most shops are paid on a set date by the msc the
> month following
> the month a shop was completed in or sooner.
C'mon Tech, I said 30-60 days is standard. Your example falls right within that range.
If I perform a shop on April 1st for most MSCs, I would expect payment by end of May. Usually around the 25th or so. Since the 25th of May is a Sunday this year, the payment may show up the following Monday, which is 56 days. Sometimes, due to weekends and holidays, the payments may come a day to 2 later than that, so isn't 30-60 days pretty much the same as saying. "We will pay you by the end of the month, of the month following your shop date"?
The amount of time it takes really depends on the accounting system of the MSC and the day of the month you performed the shop. I seem to recall my last payment from Sentry being right in the middle of that range, at 45 days. Are you saying that's unprofessional and an indicator the company is in financial distress? That's standard to me.
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> I disagree with you here. I have worked with
> dozens of msc's
> over the years and the vast majority do not take
> 60 days to pay.
> Most shops are paid on a set date by the msc the
> month following
> the month a shop was completed in or sooner.
C'mon Tech, I said 30-60 days is standard. Your example falls right within that range.
If I perform a shop on April 1st for most MSCs, I would expect payment by end of May. Usually around the 25th or so. Since the 25th of May is a Sunday this year, the payment may show up the following Monday, which is 56 days. Sometimes, due to weekends and holidays, the payments may come a day to 2 later than that, so isn't 30-60 days pretty much the same as saying. "We will pay you by the end of the month, of the month following your shop date"?
The amount of time it takes really depends on the accounting system of the MSC and the day of the month you performed the shop. I seem to recall my last payment from Sentry being right in the middle of that range, at 45 days. Are you saying that's unprofessional and an indicator the company is in financial distress? That's standard to me.
geauxcj, ludlow provided the answer to your question.
ludlow123 Wrote:
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> I actually emailed Feedback Plus about a job done
> 3/19. This was the response:
>
> Thank you for your inquiry. The payment policy
> does change effective April 1, but we are
> processing a payment on April 8 for the shops done
> in March, which will include your shop.
ludlow123 Wrote:
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> I actually emailed Feedback Plus about a job done
> 3/19. This was the response:
>
> Thank you for your inquiry. The payment policy
> does change effective April 1, but we are
> processing a payment on April 8 for the shops done
> in March, which will include your shop.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
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"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
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I don't use the beginning of the month test since that
is misleading. I use the end of the month test. If I complete
a shop on the 22nd, when will it be paid. For most msc's,
it will be in 30 days or less. If I complete a shop on the 22nd
in April, will I still be paid sometime in May be Sentry?
That's the test...if it stretches into June then that is unacceptable
to me and a sign of stress at the company and stress can cover
a number of things.
is misleading. I use the end of the month test. If I complete
a shop on the 22nd, when will it be paid. For most msc's,
it will be in 30 days or less. If I complete a shop on the 22nd
in April, will I still be paid sometime in May be Sentry?
That's the test...if it stretches into June then that is unacceptable
to me and a sign of stress at the company and stress can cover
a number of things.
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There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
Thanks. I did notice it earlier, but was wondering if the money came through. Couldn't remember if they paid late in the day or not. Since it's the 8th, I was curious what would happen...or if it would be later. 
Oh. Please let us know if the payments for March did come through today. It will not be an auspicious start if they are several days late.
Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.
Mine doesn't show in Paypal. But, the day isn't over yet.
techman01 Wrote:
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> I don't use the beginning of the month test since
> that is misleading. I use the end of the month test.
Hahaha...how is the beginning of the month test any more misleading than the end of the month test? Test both and you will get a result close to 30-60 days.
If you just prefer MSCs that pay on a particular date, that's fine. Just say so.
I still contend the most realistic answer is that it's simply an indicator of how Dave likes to pay. Perhaps he was beaten with a calendar as a child and like to avoid them. Perhaps he has commitment issues. As long as I get paid accurately for my shops in a reasonable amount of time (for me that's 60 days) without ever having to remind the MSC about payment, I'm good with the payment process.
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> I don't use the beginning of the month test since
> that is misleading. I use the end of the month test.
Hahaha...how is the beginning of the month test any more misleading than the end of the month test? Test both and you will get a result close to 30-60 days.
If you just prefer MSCs that pay on a particular date, that's fine. Just say so.
I still contend the most realistic answer is that it's simply an indicator of how Dave likes to pay. Perhaps he was beaten with a calendar as a child and like to avoid them. Perhaps he has commitment issues. As long as I get paid accurately for my shops in a reasonable amount of time (for me that's 60 days) without ever having to remind the MSC about payment, I'm good with the payment process.
I dont have a particular date, I have a very simple standard, if I do shop
anytime in month A then I expect to be paid at the absolute latest in
month B. If your pay schedule pushes it into month C, then it's an issue.
So if we are in April now, I expect to have all my shops paid for sometime
in May. Anyone that stretches it to June, I consider that unreasonable.
I'm sure many others agree that being paid no later then the month
after is more then fair.
anytime in month A then I expect to be paid at the absolute latest in
month B. If your pay schedule pushes it into month C, then it's an issue.
So if we are in April now, I expect to have all my shops paid for sometime
in May. Anyone that stretches it to June, I consider that unreasonable.
I'm sure many others agree that being paid no later then the month
after is more then fair.
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There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
When you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody
Understood, but not all shops are paid that way, Tech. It doesn't make the MSC in question evil or financially distressed.
Your standard is strictly based on the calendar month and theirs is based on elapsed time. Sometimes the two may intersect and other times they may not. I don't think it's an issue of fairness. It's just a difference in style.
In the end, this works like everything the MS world. You don't have to take shops that you don't want. You don't have to work for companies who's pay timeline does not meet your standards. Shoppers don't get to personally dictate how a MSC pays, but If an MSC is having a problem getting assignments filled due solely to their pay timeline, they will either have to change their ways or go out of business.
This discussion does beg the question, however, of why a MSC with a quick pay cycle sold out to a company with a 30-60 day pay cycle. At first glance it would seem to me that a quick pay cycle is not a surefire recipe for success in the MS industry.
Your standard is strictly based on the calendar month and theirs is based on elapsed time. Sometimes the two may intersect and other times they may not. I don't think it's an issue of fairness. It's just a difference in style.
In the end, this works like everything the MS world. You don't have to take shops that you don't want. You don't have to work for companies who's pay timeline does not meet your standards. Shoppers don't get to personally dictate how a MSC pays, but If an MSC is having a problem getting assignments filled due solely to their pay timeline, they will either have to change their ways or go out of business.
This discussion does beg the question, however, of why a MSC with a quick pay cycle sold out to a company with a 30-60 day pay cycle. At first glance it would seem to me that a quick pay cycle is not a surefire recipe for success in the MS industry.
I guess the money was right. Also, what if the owner of an MSC who was very inolved in his/her business wanted to retire and get out of the business, or perhaps start a different type of business? Selling doesn't mean that they were unsuccessful. I did a search and found out that Feedback Plus was founded in 1971. Both Sentry and Feedback Plus are Texas based companies, Feedback in Dallas and Sentry in Plano (25 minutes outside of Dallas).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2014 07:05PM by JASFLALMT.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2014 07:05PM by JASFLALMT.
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