BARE and the mysterious shipping company
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All of that paperwork and at least 45 minutes at the Post Office filling out a claim for a box of cereal? You must be kidding! They won't even reimburse her the postage, just replace the box of cereal (at best). Far better to use the crumbs as breading.
I'm more irked at the 9 rating (reviewer comments, in toto, "Thank you for your informative report!"
and to a lesser extent, the loss of my boot box.
The Wheaties won't be wasted.
and to a lesser extent, the loss of my boot box.
The Wheaties won't be wasted.
nicelytwicely Wrote:
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> All I can tell you is that I've done this when I
> HAVEN'T been on a shop. No one has ever told me
> it was illegal. In fact, a postal worker
> suggested that I do this just the other day, when
> it was discovered that the box of magazines I
> wanted to mail would be less expensive to mail via
> media mail. As per their suggestion, I returned
> with the same box, wrapped in brown paper.
If you had already used the priority mailer (addressed it, wrote on it, etc.) then yes, the postal worker could have suggested that. It was already a trashed mailer. They can, and will, get written up if they are caught telling people to use the priority mailers covered with brown paper. If there is any rip in the brown paper wrap, the recipient will have to pay the difference if not already priority mail. If the postal system suspects that the package is a priority mailer, they can, and will, make a small tear to check.
(I say this based on the words from a friend who works at the po)
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> All I can tell you is that I've done this when I
> HAVEN'T been on a shop. No one has ever told me
> it was illegal. In fact, a postal worker
> suggested that I do this just the other day, when
> it was discovered that the box of magazines I
> wanted to mail would be less expensive to mail via
> media mail. As per their suggestion, I returned
> with the same box, wrapped in brown paper.
If you had already used the priority mailer (addressed it, wrote on it, etc.) then yes, the postal worker could have suggested that. It was already a trashed mailer. They can, and will, get written up if they are caught telling people to use the priority mailers covered with brown paper. If there is any rip in the brown paper wrap, the recipient will have to pay the difference if not already priority mail. If the postal system suspects that the package is a priority mailer, they can, and will, make a small tear to check.
(I say this based on the words from a friend who works at the po)
I was told the same when I turned the priority mailer inside out. If if it was noticed, the recipient would be charged the difference. I really didn't expect a problem since I was using a PO Box and sending through the PO, but was wrong.
FYI someone previously mentioned that these boxes have identification on the inside. I just checked several in my garage and that is not so.
FYI someone previously mentioned that these boxes have identification on the inside. I just checked several in my garage and that is not so.
ShopUntilYouDrop Wrote:
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> I was told the same when I turned the priority
> mailer inside out. If if it was noticed, the
> recipient would be charged the difference. I
> really didn't expect a problem since I was using a
> PO Box and sending through the PO, but was wrong.
>
> FYI someone previously mentioned that these boxes
> have identification on the inside. I just checked
> several in my garage and that is not so.
The boxes you have in your garage are not the newer ones. ALL of the newer boxes have priority words written on the inside. Some post offices may get the unmarked ones every now and then because of old stock, but all newly printed priority mailers are marked inside and out.
You really risk the chance that the po will check your box. They know what their boxes look like. They can ask you to open it in front of them and then request the difference.
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> I was told the same when I turned the priority
> mailer inside out. If if it was noticed, the
> recipient would be charged the difference. I
> really didn't expect a problem since I was using a
> PO Box and sending through the PO, but was wrong.
>
> FYI someone previously mentioned that these boxes
> have identification on the inside. I just checked
> several in my garage and that is not so.
The boxes you have in your garage are not the newer ones. ALL of the newer boxes have priority words written on the inside. Some post offices may get the unmarked ones every now and then because of old stock, but all newly printed priority mailers are marked inside and out.
You really risk the chance that the po will check your box. They know what their boxes look like. They can ask you to open it in front of them and then request the difference.
KitKat, I have no intentions of using the illegal boxes again. I was just explaining my earlier mistake. FYI the postal clerk did recognize the box, although it was inside out, as theirs. BTW I am a coin buyer/collector, and the flat rate boxes are excellent for sending heavy coins.
Flash Wrote:
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> All of that paperwork and at least 45 minutes at
> the Post Office filling out a claim for a box of
> cereal? You must be kidding! They won't even
> reimburse her the postage, just replace the box of
> cereal (at best). Far better to use the crumbs as
> breading.
Yes it might be a box of cereal but, the requirements for the shop says, "if asked to purchase insurance, you must say the package is between $25 and $40, under $50. ' Now what is stopping the mailer from placing $(2-$20) in that box =$40.
If you put cash in the box and the box is crushed or damaged. The money could have fallen out. The only person to know for sure is the sender. But you bought insurance........................ Maybe the handler is five finger discounter.
My Gs loves a certain cereal, you don't think I wouldn't put a extra few dollars in the box for him, when I send him that package. Com'on FLASH, the shipper can not discriminate what you can insure and what you can't.
Let them replace the cereal but you informed them the package was worth at least $50 insurable.
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> All of that paperwork and at least 45 minutes at
> the Post Office filling out a claim for a box of
> cereal? You must be kidding! They won't even
> reimburse her the postage, just replace the box of
> cereal (at best). Far better to use the crumbs as
> breading.
Yes it might be a box of cereal but, the requirements for the shop says, "if asked to purchase insurance, you must say the package is between $25 and $40, under $50. ' Now what is stopping the mailer from placing $(2-$20) in that box =$40.
If you put cash in the box and the box is crushed or damaged. The money could have fallen out. The only person to know for sure is the sender. But you bought insurance........................ Maybe the handler is five finger discounter.
My Gs loves a certain cereal, you don't think I wouldn't put a extra few dollars in the box for him, when I send him that package. Com'on FLASH, the shipper can not discriminate what you can insure and what you can't.
Let them replace the cereal but you informed them the package was worth at least $50 insurable.
KitKat Wrote:
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> nicelytwicely Wrote:
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> -----
> > All I can tell you is that I've done this when
> I
> > HAVEN'T been on a shop. No one has ever told
> me
> > it was illegal. In fact, a postal worker
> > suggested that I do this just the other day,
> when
> > it was discovered that the box of magazines I
> > wanted to mail would be less expensive to mail
> via
> > media mail. As per their suggestion, I
> returned
> > with the same box, wrapped in brown paper.
>
> If you had already used the priority mailer
> (addressed it, wrote on it, etc.) then yes, the
> postal worker could have suggested that. It was
> already a trashed mailer. They can, and will, get
> written up if they are caught telling people to
> use the priority mailers covered with brown paper.
> If there is any rip in the brown paper wrap, the
> recipient will have to pay the difference if not
> already priority mail. If the postal system
> suspects that the package is a priority mailer,
> they can, and will, make a small tear to check.
> (I say this based on the words from a friend who
> works at the po)
That is exactly the case, the box was already addressed.
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> nicelytwicely Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All I can tell you is that I've done this when
> I
> > HAVEN'T been on a shop. No one has ever told
> me
> > it was illegal. In fact, a postal worker
> > suggested that I do this just the other day,
> when
> > it was discovered that the box of magazines I
> > wanted to mail would be less expensive to mail
> via
> > media mail. As per their suggestion, I
> returned
> > with the same box, wrapped in brown paper.
>
> If you had already used the priority mailer
> (addressed it, wrote on it, etc.) then yes, the
> postal worker could have suggested that. It was
> already a trashed mailer. They can, and will, get
> written up if they are caught telling people to
> use the priority mailers covered with brown paper.
> If there is any rip in the brown paper wrap, the
> recipient will have to pay the difference if not
> already priority mail. If the postal system
> suspects that the package is a priority mailer,
> they can, and will, make a small tear to check.
> (I say this based on the words from a friend who
> works at the po)
That is exactly the case, the box was already addressed.
ShopUntilYouDrop Wrote:
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> FYI someone previously mentioned that these boxes
> have identification on the inside. I just checked
> several in my garage and that is not so.
You have an older box then. When I was first aware of them offering the free Priority boxes (about 10 years ago through eBay), they didn't have anything printed on the inside. Then a lot of people started flipping them inside out and they started printing on the inside. I am looking at the inside of one right now and every couple of inches they have it marked for Priority shipping only.
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> FYI someone previously mentioned that these boxes
> have identification on the inside. I just checked
> several in my garage and that is not so.
You have an older box then. When I was first aware of them offering the free Priority boxes (about 10 years ago through eBay), they didn't have anything printed on the inside. Then a lot of people started flipping them inside out and they started printing on the inside. I am looking at the inside of one right now and every couple of inches they have it marked for Priority shipping only.
I don't understand the big whoop-ha over a box.
1) We aren't prurchasing P boxes for the shop. nor are we mailing a a package in a P box (or flat rate as the shoppee calls them.
2) WE are to let the shop handler decsribes various ways our package can travel----from most exspenxive to least expensivdee, to more days or least amounrt of days.
3) You are turning a box inside out, what's up with that....????
4) The shop handler is ripping the package to make sure it is not a P box, what's up with that,....?
5) You are being chargwed extra for a used and abused P box ------how does that figuing into you fee and reimbursement,....?
6) The scenario for purchasing a box is......> the Dim weight shop (scenario C).
To use a P box defeats the purpose of the shop. This hy the guidelines gives you only four packages to chose from. and a regular box is a regular box.
I am pretty sure everyone on this post has various boxes hanging around to ship someting in, even it is a shoe box.
1) We aren't prurchasing P boxes for the shop. nor are we mailing a a package in a P box (or flat rate as the shoppee calls them.
2) WE are to let the shop handler decsribes various ways our package can travel----from most exspenxive to least expensivdee, to more days or least amounrt of days.
3) You are turning a box inside out, what's up with that....????
4) The shop handler is ripping the package to make sure it is not a P box, what's up with that,....?
5) You are being chargwed extra for a used and abused P box ------how does that figuing into you fee and reimbursement,....?
6) The scenario for purchasing a box is......> the Dim weight shop (scenario C).
To use a P box defeats the purpose of the shop. This hy the guidelines gives you only four packages to chose from. and a regular box is a regular box.
I am pretty sure everyone on this post has various boxes hanging around to ship someting in, even it is a shoe box.
Sojo, I think you are confusing the discussions. There are sort of two discussions here. The posts about the priority boxes have nothing to do with the mystery shops.
Insurance = from my exerience, you have to prove the value inside. It does not matter IF you insured it for 49.99. If you sent a cereal box, then they will ONLY reimburse you for the cereal box. It will not matter what insurance value you have put on it.
The local clerks can process the insurance claim right away (unless it has changed) Since the package was mailed back to you, it will be easy. You will need to take your insurance claim ticket, the mailing, the contents, the damaged cereal and maybe your postal receipt with you. You will not get to keep your cereal box. They will keep it.
Wow. Good luck IF you decide to file the claim. I'd be too afraid of looking silly, but a point is a point. In all honestly, I'd be interested to see if they pay or deny the claim. You have to pack it securely in order for them to pay up. I've packed super secure before, still got broken, and they denied the claim. I used packing paper, bubbles, sytrofoam and tape. The item would not move inside. The only way it could get broken is if they really abused it and ignored the fragile words written several times. (I know... the word fragile means football to them, LOL) They said I didnt pack it secure enough, suggested I use wood to sandwich it next time. Really. Wood?!
Tell us how it goes, if you do file the claim. It would be interesting and you could educate all of us. (or humor us)
The local clerks can process the insurance claim right away (unless it has changed) Since the package was mailed back to you, it will be easy. You will need to take your insurance claim ticket, the mailing, the contents, the damaged cereal and maybe your postal receipt with you. You will not get to keep your cereal box. They will keep it.
Wow. Good luck IF you decide to file the claim. I'd be too afraid of looking silly, but a point is a point. In all honestly, I'd be interested to see if they pay or deny the claim. You have to pack it securely in order for them to pay up. I've packed super secure before, still got broken, and they denied the claim. I used packing paper, bubbles, sytrofoam and tape. The item would not move inside. The only way it could get broken is if they really abused it and ignored the fragile words written several times. (I know... the word fragile means football to them, LOL) They said I didnt pack it secure enough, suggested I use wood to sandwich it next time. Really. Wood?!
Tell us how it goes, if you do file the claim. It would be interesting and you could educate all of us. (or humor us)
KitKat, your post really summed up what I've so loved and appreciated with them since my eBay shipping days.
I once asked one of the ladies that worked at my local one if I should write Fragile on a fragile package. She was nice, but she was like, "Well you can if you want, but no one is really going to pay attention."
I once asked one of the ladies that worked at my local one if I should write Fragile on a fragile package. She was nice, but she was like, "Well you can if you want, but no one is really going to pay attention."
KitKat Wrote:
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> Insurance = from my exerience, you have to prove
> the value inside. It does not matter IF you
> insured it for 49.99. If you sent a cereal box,
> then they will ONLY reimburse you for the cereal
> box. It will not matter what insurance value you
> have put on it.
>
> The local clerks can process the insurance claim
> right away (unless it has changed) Since the
> package was mailed back to you, it will be easy.
> You will need to take your insurance claim ticket,
> the mailing, the contents, the damaged cereal and
> maybe your postal receipt with you. You will not
> get to keep your cereal box. They will keep it.
>
> Wow. Good luck IF you decide to file the claim.
> I'd be too afraid of looking silly, but a point is
> a point. In all honestly, I'd be interested to
> see if they pay or deny the claim. You have to
> pack it securely in order for them to pay up. I've
> packed super secure before, still got broken, and
> they denied the claim. I used packing paper,
> bubbles, sytrofoam and tape. The item would not
> move inside. The only way it could get broken is
> if they really abused it and ignored the fragile
> words written several times. (I know... the word
> fragile means football to them, LOL) They said I
> didnt pack it secure enough, suggested I use wood
> to sandwich it next time. Really. Wood?!
>
> Tell us how it goes, if you do file the claim. It
> would be interesting and you could educate all of
> us. (or humor us)
Wow - that sounds awful. I have only filed one claim, not shopping-related. I purchased a sock knitting machine on ebay, and, although the seller packed it well, the main knitting cylinder arrived broken. I called the seller, who gave me the shipping info I needed, and I printed my invoice from ebay and took the box with broken part and the invoice and I filled out the paperwork right at the post office window. I had no problems and they paid the whole amount. I can't remember how long it took to get the money, maybe 3 weeks. But it was much easier than I expected.
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> Insurance = from my exerience, you have to prove
> the value inside. It does not matter IF you
> insured it for 49.99. If you sent a cereal box,
> then they will ONLY reimburse you for the cereal
> box. It will not matter what insurance value you
> have put on it.
>
> The local clerks can process the insurance claim
> right away (unless it has changed) Since the
> package was mailed back to you, it will be easy.
> You will need to take your insurance claim ticket,
> the mailing, the contents, the damaged cereal and
> maybe your postal receipt with you. You will not
> get to keep your cereal box. They will keep it.
>
> Wow. Good luck IF you decide to file the claim.
> I'd be too afraid of looking silly, but a point is
> a point. In all honestly, I'd be interested to
> see if they pay or deny the claim. You have to
> pack it securely in order for them to pay up. I've
> packed super secure before, still got broken, and
> they denied the claim. I used packing paper,
> bubbles, sytrofoam and tape. The item would not
> move inside. The only way it could get broken is
> if they really abused it and ignored the fragile
> words written several times. (I know... the word
> fragile means football to them, LOL) They said I
> didnt pack it secure enough, suggested I use wood
> to sandwich it next time. Really. Wood?!
>
> Tell us how it goes, if you do file the claim. It
> would be interesting and you could educate all of
> us. (or humor us)
Wow - that sounds awful. I have only filed one claim, not shopping-related. I purchased a sock knitting machine on ebay, and, although the seller packed it well, the main knitting cylinder arrived broken. I called the seller, who gave me the shipping info I needed, and I printed my invoice from ebay and took the box with broken part and the invoice and I filled out the paperwork right at the post office window. I had no problems and they paid the whole amount. I can't remember how long it took to get the money, maybe 3 weeks. But it was much easier than I expected.
This is off subject, but I once sent an expensive coat to my daughter, they kept it at the post office in Chicago, did not deliver it to her place. She wasn't able to pick it up, it sat there for 3 months...collect Ins., no way, what a nightmare, I ended up having it returned to me (long storey) and had to pay again. Fighting the Post office is like losing before you start.
Live consciously....
I did three yesterday. The minor hassle was self inflicted: I forgot my packing tape at home and couldn't bare to spent about $3 for a new roll.
The major hassle was that a Clerk made me so anxious with the sighing & disapproving head shaking & yapping with another customer that I didn't include my 2nd item and the total weight shipped was less than a pound.
The moral of the story is don't forget your tape for the ready post boxes!
Otherwise,after 18 of these shops, my faith in this shipping co but not this location has been 99% redeemed.
The major hassle was that a Clerk made me so anxious with the sighing & disapproving head shaking & yapping with another customer that I didn't include my 2nd item and the total weight shipped was less than a pound.
The moral of the story is don't forget your tape for the ready post boxes!
Otherwise,after 18 of these shops, my faith in this shipping co but not this location has been 99% redeemed.
I did a load of these with the old MSC and found very little wrong with any locations or clerks. I did, however, find many deviations with respect to addresses and/or zip codes missing from locations.
I do have a problem with the obvious upselling that they are trained to do. I am young enough and wise enough to decline overpriced Express Mail when not necessary, but I am not so sure that grandma (shipping a doll to her granddaughter 3 weeks early) would fully understand the cheaper options or would simply pay the higher price.
I do have a problem with the obvious upselling that they are trained to do. I am young enough and wise enough to decline overpriced Express Mail when not necessary, but I am not so sure that grandma (shipping a doll to her granddaughter 3 weeks early) would fully understand the cheaper options or would simply pay the higher price.
I keep vacillating about whether or not to shop the location I visit most frequently. So far, I've opted not to, but part of the temptation was my irritation with one particular clerk, who frequently talked on her cell phone when assisting customers. Funny thing is, I haven't seen her lately and although I can't swear to the timing, her absence seems to have occurred shortly after these shops started appearing.
I know these shops were previously with another company, but I never did any. Were the locations as plentiful, and the reports similar?
I know these shops were previously with another company, but I never did any. Were the locations as plentiful, and the reports similar?
Nicely, the locations were much more plentiful with the old company. I can't compare the reports as I don't do the BARE jobs.
The client is also shopped by internal personnel but their reports are taken much more seriously. I would bet my Christmas money that your report did not get a union postal worker fired.
The client is also shopped by internal personnel but their reports are taken much more seriously. I would bet my Christmas money that your report did not get a union postal worker fired.
Oh, I haven't shopped that location, so it definitely wasn't my report!
They're shopped internally? I find that very interesting, but how do you know that?
They're shopped internally? I find that very interesting, but how do you know that?
ShopUntil YouDrop used the key word union. Yesterday's Clerk was an older, only asked for the zip code, never said hello, had no tie, no thank you passed his lips, no ins./del confirmation offer, "first class and itil git there in a week" kinda guy. Even if fired will retire a well paid fat cat.
Get even and shop the cell phone Clerk.
Get even and shop the cell phone Clerk.
Nicely, I used to date a worker who did the internal shops. But it still takes an act of God to fire anyone there.
There are in fact five different unions, each warring with the other four. Wonder why they are broke?
Nicely, are you ever nice only once?
There are in fact five different unions, each warring with the other four. Wonder why they are broke?
Nicely, are you ever nice only once?
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I did ace to try it out. It was exactly the ReadyPost shop so I just necessitated one receipt afterward the package is on the receive with my sending.I want so is a rumor of Microsoft to try both asd discourages people from downloading illegal copies. I downloaded a torrent just not malware.
thresanresee45 Wrote:
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> I did ace to try it out. It was exactly the
> ReadyPost shop so I just necessitated one receipt
> afterward the package is on the receive with my
> sending.I want so is a rumor of Microsoft to try
> both asd discourages people from downloading
> illegal copies. I downloaded a torrent just not
> malware.
SPAM! The repeater is back!
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> I did ace to try it out. It was exactly the
> ReadyPost shop so I just necessitated one receipt
> afterward the package is on the receive with my
> sending.I want so is a rumor of Microsoft to try
> both asd discourages people from downloading
> illegal copies. I downloaded a torrent just not
> malware.
SPAM! The repeater is back!
ShopUntilYouDrop Wrote:
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> Nicely, I used to date a worker who did the
> internal shops. But it still takes an act of God
> to fire anyone there.
>
> There are in fact five different unions, each
> warring with the other four. Wonder why they are
> broke?
>
> Nicely, are you ever nice only once?
Yes, and I'm nice thricely as well. :-D
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> Nicely, I used to date a worker who did the
> internal shops. But it still takes an act of God
> to fire anyone there.
>
> There are in fact five different unions, each
> warring with the other four. Wonder why they are
> broke?
>
> Nicely, are you ever nice only once?
Yes, and I'm nice thricely as well. :-D
Well, I just got a phone call from Bare telling me the shop I did in Oct. won't be completed until the "client" gets another copy of receipt. The day on the receipt didn't show up, however, after looking closely at receipt, the month and day were not shown...looks like the register at PO lost ink, and doesn't show. That PO was a mess. I had to send copy of my CC statement showing correct date (which I did), even the scheduler was pissed and said it was ridulious....guess I'll now get paid, as it's still Nov.
Live consciously....
I thought that the BARE guidelines require that you pay with cash?
ShopUntilYouDrop Wrote:
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> I thought that the BARE guidelines require that
> you pay with cash?
That's what the guidelines say.
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> I thought that the BARE guidelines require that
> you pay with cash?
That's what the guidelines say.
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