NSS...Out of business, Owner died/ For recapped short version see pinned thread on page 1 by LisaSTL

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Just saw a post by Pam on the IMSC fb page. She is gathering information about NSS for a reporter. I asked her to post here also. Or you can email her the details about what you are owed to info@imscinfo.com

Joan Gingras
Senior Project Director~BarStoolie Mystery Shopping

Barstoolie@insideevaluators.com

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2017 01:42AM by Inside Evaluators.

Reading through this thread has made me lose what little faith I had in humanity. Ive done a few shops for NSS in the past. I mean they dont owe me the thousands of dollars they must owe all of you. Someone died. Y'all need some church.

"Never believe anything you read on the internet"- Abraham Lincoln

Pee - What do you mean we "need some church?"

Pee - Perhaps you dropped your reading glasses in the toilet. It has taken us three months to figure out that someone died and we have not heard word one from the company. Now, go fish your glasses out of the bowl.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2017 05:01AM by cammikun.

@Inside Evaluators wrote:

@bgriffin wrote:

@Inside Evaluators wrote:

Do you know how the business was held? LLC, Inc, etc?

National Shopping Service, LLC was registered in Delaware and California in 2006. In 2010 the registration for CA was removed. It is still an active Delaware LLC.

Their listed registrant is:

Corporation Service Company
2711 CENTERVILLE RD SUITE 400
Wilmington, DE 19808
302-636-5401

Strange...another wonky piece to the puzzle. I would start sending payment claims to that address also,

I am glad that I never did any work for NSS. However, the information above is partially incorrect.

The Delaware LCC was cancelled on 12/29/2008. (See attachment to the cancellation filed with the State of California on 05/11/2010. (Just go to [businesssearch.sos.ca.gov] and do a name search for National Shopping Service, LLC. The Delaware cancellation is an attachment to the California cancellation. Asking for the information directly from Delaware requires payment of a fee.)

Assuming that no new corporation/LLC was formed, then National Shopping Service devolved into a proprietorship upon dissolution. That would be good for creditors as they then have a claim directly against the estate.

Oddly, I don't see a ICA on NSS's website.

I spoke to the attorney in the office working with Daniel Wozniak. He couldn't tell me much, obviously, but said that Mr. Wozniak could be assigned as executor by the end of the month. He suggested I send documentation of the debt to him, as well as NSS. I emailed to Richard@malysiaklaw.com, help@nationalshoppingservice.com and accounting@nationalshoppingservice.com..

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2017 12:28PM by tbclay.

Is Richard an actual attorney or is he a legal assistant or paralegal in the office?
I only ask because he's not listed as an attorney on their website. If he was the person that initially answered your call, he is likely a legal assistant.

The inboxes for NSS are probably full unless someone has been able to access the accounts.

I would still send hard copies of my documentation via certified mail directly to the office of the attorney and address it as follows:

Spencer T. Malysiak Law Corporation
Re: The Estate of Matthew Wozniak
3500 Douglas Blvd., Suite 200
Roseville, CA 95661

Joan Gingras
Senior Project Director~BarStoolie Mystery Shopping

Barstoolie@insideevaluators.com

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2017 03:05PM by Inside Evaluators.

@Inside Evaluators wrote:

Just saw a post by Pam on the IMSC fb page. She is gathering information about NSS for a reporter. I asked her to post here also. Or you can email her the details about what you are owed to info@imscinfo.com

Pam is not allowed to post here.

Thank you for posting the mailing address for NSS's estate attorney for us though.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2017 04:27PM by SoCalMama.

"Pam is not allowed to post here"

Why?

I believe she was banned for some reason. It was before my time though so not aware of the whole story.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind

@SoCalMama wrote:

@Inside Evaluators wrote:

Just saw a post by Pam on the IMSC fb page. She is gathering information about NSS for a reporter. I asked her to post here also. Or you can email her the details about what you are owed to info@imscinfo.com

Pam is not allowed to post here.

Thank you for posting the mailing address for NSS's estate attorney for us though.

I know. She told me that after the fact.
A shopper that called the attorney's office was told they are only representing the estate, not NSS.
They also told her that they did not know who was representing NSS.

I call bullsh*t since they also stated to her that they were only helping out a few people by forwarding their info. If that's the case, then they obviously DO know who represents NSS OR they're forwarding the information to Daniel Wozniak, the person who has petitioned the court to handle the estate.

AND they told her not to contact them again.

Joan Gingras
Senior Project Director~BarStoolie Mystery Shopping

Barstoolie@insideevaluators.com

Where did you saw such post? Could you please provide the link?

Shopping Eastern Pennsylvania since 2009

Would it be more prudent at this point for one person to take the lead rather than an onslaught of shoppers demanding payment? I know everyone needs their money and is in a hurry, but this is only going to go as fast as it's going to go.

Equal rights for others does not mean fewer rights for you. It's not pie.
"I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag." -Molly Ivins
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it really annoys the pig.

@Inside Evaluators wrote:

A shopper that called the attorney's office was told they are only representing the estate, not NSS.
They also told her that they did not know who was representing NSS.

Just as I suspected. NSS is a seperate entity from the owner and would not be included in the estate.

There are reasons that a body stays in motion
At the moment only demons come to mind

So it's back to sending a written claim with documentation to the company's physical address and hoping it gets forwarded to whoever is handling the business aspect of this.

National Shopping Service
2510 Warren Drive, Suite B
Rocklin, CA 95677

I emailed the contact provided in a previous post asking for the contact information of the legal representative of NSS. I still don't believe that they don't know, and if they really don't know, they can easily find out from the person petitioning to administer the estate, Daniel Wozniak. It's unlikely that Daniel hasn't come across the company's attorney info or that he hasn't retained an attorney on his own to deal with this.

I also suggested that someone might want to post that contact info on NSS's main site page since I'm sure the estate attorney's office is being inundated with calls.

Good luck guys...I hope you eventually get paid.

Joan Gingras
Senior Project Director~BarStoolie Mystery Shopping

Barstoolie@insideevaluators.com

Duplicate post sorry. I'm traveling.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2017 07:41PM by SoCalMama.

@Inside Evaluators wrote:

@SoCalMama wrote:

@Inside Evaluators wrote:

Just saw a post by Pam on the IMSC fb page. She is gathering information about NSS for a reporter. I asked her to post here also. Or you can email her the details about what you are owed to info@imscinfo.com

Pam is not allowed to post here.

Thank you for posting the mailing address for NSS's estate attorney for us though.

I know. She told me that after the fact.
A shopper that called the attorney's office was told they are only representing the estate, not NSS.
They also told her that they did not know who was representing NSS.

I call bullsh*t since they also stated to her that they were only helping out a few people by forwarding their info. If that's the case, then they obviously DO know who represents NSS OR they're forwarding the information to Daniel Wozniak, the person who has petitioned the court to handle the estate.

AND they told her not to contact them again.

Lovely. Of course they know who is handling NSS. Once a few hundred shoppers call them, they can let us know so we can post here. Then the calls will stop.

If I hear anything back, I'll post it.
I also suggested to Pam that the reporter that is doing that story on NSS might have contacts who could find out.

One thing worth noting is that IF NSS ends up filing for bankruptcy, all KNOWN creditors must be notified in writing. (The same is true for estates and trusts) That being said, it's going to take quite some time for all the accounting records to be reviewed.

Joan Gingras
Senior Project Director~BarStoolie Mystery Shopping

Barstoolie@insideevaluators.com

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/07/2017 08:02PM by Inside Evaluators.

We will never see that money. It is gone with the wind. They were a good company, but unless there was key man insurance there isn't going to be any money left for low tier creditors.

I really hope you all get paid. One question that comes to my mind is after his death, schedulers continued to recruit shoppers for jobs. Did they get paid based on your work? It could be that they were told that it's business as usual. I would give them the benefit of the doubt but I would think they have more knowledge about what happened. Does anyone know where the schedulers went and maybe they can be contacted? Are they working at other companies now ? I think all reaonable avenues need to be considered.

Rick did not initially answer my call. I was referred to him as the attorney who is handling "that matter."

That post appears to be gone.

@gene wrote:

Where did you saw such post? Could you please provide the link?

I repeat my previous post: unless NSS is currently incorporated then no matter what it might call itself it is a proprietorship. If that is the case then the estate is liable. I cannot see a harm in filing a claim against the estate even if its lawyers are saying that they don't represent NSS.

@Rousseau wrote:

I repeat my previous post: unless NSS is currently incorporated then no matter what it might call itself it is a proprietorship. If that is the case then the estate is liable. I cannot see a harm in filing a claim against the estate even if its lawyers are saying that they don't represent NSS.

Yup. It can't hurt. The worst that can happen is that the claim is denied.
SOMEONE was in charge of business after Matt passed because shops were being assigned and accepted by NSS. And the money that clients paid for those shops went somewhere. The trick is going to be finding out that information.

Hopefully, that reporter will be able to shed some light on 1. Who was in direct charge of the company after Matt passed and 2. Who is now in charge of the company's finances and assets.

Joan Gingras
Senior Project Director~BarStoolie Mystery Shopping

Barstoolie@insideevaluators.com

Assuming NSS was a viable business prior to the owner's death, why wouldn't there be money to pay any outstanding debts? There will still be receivables on contracts completed which may be why the schedulers were trying fulfill the contracts. It seems things such as "no money left for low-tiered creditors," would be an issue if this was a bankruptcy. If NSS was operating in the black, there will still be receivables coming in to offset the payables.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/08/2017 01:06AM by LisaSTL.

Well, this has been enlightening.I'm only out a couple of pizzas, which my family ate for dinner in March and April, plus a meager $14 in fees, so I'm not too worried for myself but I sure hope this is resolved quickly for the sake of those of you in it for hundreds of dollars. How incredibly sad that the owner passed away.

Also, I really hope this Daniel Wozniak is not the young man on death row in California because that might complicate things.

We are all here on earth to help others....What on earth the others are here for I don't know.

--W. H. Auden

(OK, I checked and it's not the same Daniel--the death row guy's dad was named Daryl Wozniak and died a year ago.)

We are all here on earth to help others....What on earth the others are here for I don't know.

--W. H. Auden

You thought someone would take the original comment seriously?

National Shopping Service is an FBN (Fictitious Business Name) registered with the Placer County Clerk's office. The incorporated name is Business Index Group, Inc.

NSS registration: [countyfusion4.propertyinfo.com] (You probably will have to click to "Accept" the website's terms. Then choose Search Public Records, Fictitious Business Names. Type in National Shopping Service

CA registration for Business Index Group Inc.: [businesssearch.sos.ca.gov]

Maybe the search needs to shift to whoever is handling matters for Business Index Group Inc?

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